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Quote:No one's advocating private prisons but it's a multiple level problems. Prison shouldnt be a profitering industry most agree, Malabar is rightly pointing out that this is just another example of how corrupt government is and how easy it is to corrupt. Which is why we have to advocate government at all levels having less power.
 

How many politicians actually want to do away with private prisons?  Maybe Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.  But that's about it.  


You don't see many people advocating for getting rid of private prisons, and they place the blame on government.  Not on the private sector.  Apparently the private sector is never to blame for any of the corruption.  I mean if we never had private prisons, what good would it do to make laws to put more people in prisons if there's no profit in it?
Quote:How many politicians actually want to do away with private prisons?  Maybe Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders.  But that's about it.  


You don't see many people advocating for getting rid of private prisons, and they place the blame on government.  Not on the private sector.  Apparently the private sector is never to blame for any of the corruption.  I mean if we never had private prisons, what good would it do to make laws to put more people in prisons if there's no profit in it?
 

You are right, the private sector can be as corrupt as the government.


 

The difference is that government gets to use force. You aren't fined for refusing to buy a Big Mac.


 

Sometimes a private company like an electric utility or cable company has a monopoly and you're stuck with them, but once again it's the government that grants monopoly rights in those cases. Corrupt businesses drive away customers and eventually fold. That's not true with corrupt government.

The thing about this case is that both sides are very quick to come out for/against their point of view without looking at the facts.

 

Private for-profit prisons aren't really a bad thing if they are run correctly.  In most cases, private business can do things better and more efficiently than a government entity can do.

 

At the same time, in this case there was an abuse of government power combined with a corrupt private sector.

 

No single side of this issue is to blame in this case.  It's both sides.

Quote:The thing about this case is that both sides are very quick to come out for/against their point of view without looking at the facts.

 

Private for-profit prisons aren't really a bad thing if they are run correctly.  In most cases, private business can do things better and more efficiently than a government entity can do.

 

At the same time, in this case there was an abuse of government power combined with a corrupt private sector.

 

No single side of this issue is to blame in this case.  It's both sides.
 

That's a mighty big if. What economic model for any business includes an incentive to reduce your main source of revenue?
Exactly try telling the shareholders about the lowering share price and reduced dividends. Growth is demanded. Unless they drastically cut costs and treat them like Thai prisoners.


Health is another where it is often best left to doctors being employed by the public sector. Much less unnecessary tests and medication as there's no benefit to over treating a patient.
Quote:That's a mighty big if. What economic model for any business includes an incentive to reduce your main source of revenue?
 

The economic model isn't necessarily the number of "beds filled".  It's all about efficiency and how the prison is run.  Is it more cost effective for a government to pay a contractor or private investor to run/upkeep a facility, or is it more cost effective to have government employees do the same job?
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