Quote:If they trade him Caldwell basically would be admitting he screwed up with that draft pick.. And i doubt Caldwell wants to be wrong. So he will stay..
What do you think signing Beachum is an admission of? Or signing Amukamara.
If Joeckel or Gratz had panned out, each would be getting an extension instead of replaced.
Quote:If they trade him Caldwell basically would be admitting he screwed up with that draft pick.. And i doubt Caldwell wants to be wrong. So he will stay..
I am not one who goes along with the "it was a weak draft" argument, but it was his first draft and seemed like a safe pick at the time. Seems he has learned a little since then. I'm sure in hindsight, it would have been nice to draft D. Hopkins.
I do have to say though, for that entire draft to be complete garbage 3 years later is pretty astounding. I think a lot of that speaks to the coaching, because the simple odds are there would be at least 1 serviceable guy in there. And I know what you are thinking, but Cyprien still sucks.
Quote:What value do you really provide when you are on your [BAD WORD REMOVED] half time?
I feel like he has be at least better than replacement level backup (swing) tackles.
Quote:I am not one who goes along with the "it was a weak draft" argument, but it was his first draft and seemed like a safe pick at the time. Seems he has learned a little since then. I'm sure in hindsight, it would have been nice to draft D. Hopkins.
I do have to say though, for that entire draft to be complete garbage 3 years later is pretty astounding. I think a lot of that speaks to the coaching, because the simple odds are there would be at least 1 serviceable guy in there. And I know what you are thinking, but Cyprien still sucks.
The coaching, or they're just not very good players, because we're not having that same issue with the 14 draft.
<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">The criticism of the
2013 NFL Draft continues. John Elway,
Denver Broncos executive vice president of football operations, said
it's not top-heavy. Some have said there isn't a single quarterback worthy of a first-round pick.
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Adam Schein thinks the doubters are wrong -- Geno Smith
absolutely has what it takes to be a franchise QB in the NFL.
<b>More ...</b>
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<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">One high-ranking team executive told CBS Sports' Mike Freeman this is the
worst draft in a decade.
<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">"Worst draft in past 10 years or longer," the executive said. "When we look back at this draft in five or 10 years we might view it as one of the worst we've seen in some time."
I'm still skeptical that this "talk" is anything more than reporters trying to cook up a story.
Unless the Jags are absolutely certain that his replacement will be healthy enough to assume the starting role right out of the gate, there's no incentive for them to make any sort of deal, and very little trade value beyond some late round conditional pick.
I CAN see the team trading him in a similar circumstance to how they unloaded Monroe. Let Joeckel start the season, and hope that he plays well enough to gin up his value so that when a team suddenly has a need at Tackle, the Jags can step in and offer him in trade.
Quote:If they trade him Caldwell basically would be admitting he screwed up with that draft pick.. And i doubt Caldwell wants to be wrong. So he will stay..
This is just more idiotic drivel coming from an unlimited source.
Caldwell's job depends on making the right decisions that will improve this team. He's already shown that if they make a personnel move that doesn't pan out, he's more than willing to admit the mistake and move on. So, to say that he won't because it would be an admission he screwed up is just ludicrous, but not unexpected considering the source.
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<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">The criticism of the 2013 NFL Draft continues. John Elway, Denver Broncos executive vice president of football operations, said it's not top-heavy. Some have said there isn't a single quarterback worthy of a first-round pick.
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Adam Schein thinks the doubters are wrong -- Geno Smith absolutely has what it takes to be a franchise QB in the NFL. <b>More ...</b>
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<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">One high-ranking team executive told CBS Sports' Mike Freeman this is the worst draft in a decade.
<p style="font-family:arial, verdana, helvetica;color:rgb(34,34,33);">"Worst draft in past 10 years or longer," the executive said. "When we look back at this draft in five or 10 years we might view it as one of the worst we've seen in some time."
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But still gave us these players
Ansah
Sheldon Richardson
Star Loutelei
Kenny Vaccaro
Eric Reid
Kyle Long
Eifert
Desmond Trufant
Floyd and Hopkins
just in the first
LeVeon bell in the 2nd
Bostic
Lacy
Mathieu
keenan allen
markus wheaton
jordan reed
i mean... it wasn't that bad...
Quote:I'm still skeptical that this "talk" is anything more than reporters trying to cook up a story.
Unless the Jags are absolutely certain that his replacement will be healthy enough to assume the starting role right out of the gate, there's no incentive for them to make any sort of deal, and very little trade value beyond some late round conditional pick.
I CAN see the team trading him in a similar circumstance to how they unloaded Monroe. Let Joeckel start the season, and hope that he plays well enough to gin up his value so that when a team suddenly has a need at Tackle, the Jags can step in and offer him in trade.
I can see this, but if the Jaguars end up with Tunsil, all bets are off for Joeckel.
Quote:But still gave us these players
Ansah
Sheldon Richardson
Star Loutelei
Kenny Vaccaro
Eric Reid
Kyle Long
Eifert
Desmond Trufant
Floyd and Hopkins
just in the first
LeVeon bell in the 2nd
Bostic
Lacy
Mathieu
keenan allen
markus wheaton
jordan reed
i mean... it wasn't that bad...
That's a solid group and teams were lucky if they ended up with one of those 'solid' players. That's definitely not a list that proves it was a strong draft.
Quote:I can see this, but if the Jaguars end up with Tunsil, all bets are off for Joeckel.
I'm not expecting that to happen, although with the trade that has shuffled the top of the board, that's a possibility.
Quote:I feel like he has be at least better than replacement level backup (swing) tackles.
Sam Young outplayed him last year when he was out.
He's equal, if not worse.
Luke joeckel for kam chancellor would be nice
Quote:Luke joeckel for kam chancellor would be nice
they can have Cyp too lol
Quote:But still gave us these players
Ansah
Sheldon Richardson
Star Loutelei
Kenny Vaccaro
Eric Reid
Kyle Long
Eifert
Desmond Trufant
Floyd and Hopkins
just in the first
LeVeon bell in the 2nd
Bostic
Lacy
Mathieu
keenan allen
markus wheaton
jordan reed
i mean... it wasn't that bad...
9 out of 32 isn't a great example of a strong draft.
IF Tunsil is there will the Jags take him? If yes in that scenario the joke is fried chicken
Quote:This is just more idiotic drivel coming from an unlimited source.
Caldwell's job depends on making the right decisions that will improve this team. He's already shown that if they make a personnel move that doesn't pan out, he's more than willing to admit the mistake and move on. So, to say that he won't because it would be an admission he screwed up is just ludicrous, but not unexpected considering the source.
According to this, you just contradicted ur sig, bruh.