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It could very well happen folks.

I thought Ryan already said he wouldn't accept the nomination?

Quote:I thought Ryan already said he wouldn't accept the nomination?

Things can change. If the opportunity presented itself he would most likely say "yes". It would take a helluva lot of character and integrity on his part to turn it down.

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It could very well happen folks.

 

Not only is it not very likely, I can almost say that it "aint gonna happen".  The only reason Paul Ryan is in the news so much is because as The House Majority Leader he has the job of chairing the convention.

 

Just pure speculation on my part, but I would think that a brokered convention will lead to perhaps Marco Rubio, John Kasich or Jeb Bush to the nomination.  You have to remember who exactly you're dealing with here.  It's the republican side of the establishment.  There is a slight chance that perhaps they might choose Ted Cruz, but it's a very slight chance (at this point).  I can almost assure you that they will not pick Donald Trump.

Quote:Not only is it not very likely, I can almost say that it "aint gonna happen".  The only reason Paul Ryan is in the news so much is because as The House Majority Leader he has the job of chairing the convention.

 

Just pure speculation on my part, but I would think that a brokered convention will lead to perhaps Marco Rubio, John Kasich or Jeb Bush to the nomination.  You have to remember who exactly you're dealing with here.  It's the republican side of the establishment.  There is a slight chance that perhaps they might choose Ted Cruz, but it's a very slight chance (at this point).  I can almost assure you that they will not pick Donald Trump.

I would be very happy nonetheless if they didn't pick Trump.

Quote:I would be very happy nonetheless if they didn't pick Trump.

 

I can tell you without a doubt that it won't be Trump.  He doesn't even have a majority of delegates at this point.

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It could very well happen folks.

Ryan's already said he doesn't want the nomination. His name keeps coming up because he's as inner circle as the GOP gets, he's got a recognizable name, and he's not Donald Trump.

 

If a brokered convention did happen, I think the likely nominee would be Kasich. Rubio's made it very clear that he's had enough of politics for the foreseeable future, and it'd be hard to rally the troops behind a guy who's already told the world that he's serving out his Senatorial term then going home. Cruz and Trump are just about equally hated by the GOP establishment (I hate that word), Christie has nuked some bridges by endorsing Trump, and the world wouldn't stop laughing long enough to vote if Jeb were thrown back in. Amazingly enough, Kasich just might be the guy. Initially, I wondered if he was just staying in it for a VP bid, but now I wonder if he's hoping to be the last man standing at the convention.

If that happens I'm sitting this election out. Let the country suffer under the Hildebeast and then maybe the Republican establishment will get the message.

Quote:I can tell you without a doubt that it won't be Trump. He doesn't even have a majority of delegates at this point.

Lets get through more winnee take all states and then we can talk

Quote:I can tell you without a doubt that it won't be Trump.  He doesn't even have a majority of delegates at this point.

 

Didn't you know? It's their country.. I mean, party. They can do what they want.

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It could very well happen folks.

 

I would be happy if it did.   I'd finally have a candidate I could vote for. 

 

However, if Trump does get to the convention just a few votes short, he will win on the second ballot, because the delegates are only bound on the first ballot, and out of the non-Trump delegates, there will no doubt be more than enough that will switch to Trump on the second ballot.   Of course, that is just speculation on my part.   

"How to lose an election 101 - Denying the nomination to the guy who got the most votes"

Trump could legit beat both Hillary and Kasich as an independent in a general election.

Quote:Trump could legit beat both Hillary and Kasich as an independent in a general election.

 

Hmm, that might be a bit of a stretch, but who knows. Throw Bloomberg in there for safe measure and I will believe it.

Quote:Trump could legit beat both Hillary and Kasich as an independent in a general election.

I think the 1912 election would be a better analogue. Teddy Roosevelt, a wildly popular President, ran as a third party in opposition to his former Republican colleague William Howard Taft. He and Taft split the Republican vote deeply, allowing Woodrow Wilson to win easily. If Roosevelt had run as a Republican, or the Republicans had backed him instead of Taft, Wilson would not have won in 1912.

 

In fact, the 1912 election has a lot of parallels to 2016. The Democratic Party faced a split of its own (albeit much more minor) when Eugene Debs ran under the Socialist Party's banner. I suspect the end result will be the same, too. The GOP convention will find a way to make someone, anyone, not named Trump the nominee, Trump will go to a third party and shred what's left of the Republicans, and the Democrat will take it as a result. I don't see Sanders running as a third party candidate, partially because he's already said he won't, and partially because I don't think he could live with himself if the 15% of the vote he took was enough to put Trump in the White House.

Quote:I think the 1912 election would be a better analogue. Teddy Roosevelt, a wildly popular President, ran as a third party in opposition to his former Republican colleague William Howard Taft. He and Taft split the Republican vote deeply, allowing Woodrow Wilson to win easily. If Roosevelt had run as a Republican, or the Republicans had backed him instead of Taft, Wilson would not have won in 1912.

 

In fact, the 1912 election has a lot of parallels to 2016. The Democratic Party faced a split of its own (albeit much more minor) when Eugene Debs ran under the Socialist Party's banner. I suspect the end result will be the same, too. The GOP convention will find a way to make someone, anyone, not named Trump the nominee, Trump will go to a third party and shred what's left of the Republicans, and the Democrat will take it as a result. I don't see Sanders running as a third party candidate, partially because he's already said he won't, and partially because I don't think he could live with himself if the 15% of the vote he took was enough to put Trump in the White House.

 

I agree that the GOP convention will not nominate Trump.  Regarding him going third party, I personally doubt it, but then again, Trump isn't the smartest candidate in the race.

 

First of all, I don't think that you will see that many in the republican party go with him, especially people that have voted in more than a couple of elections.

 

Second of all, if he waits for the convention he has another problem.  At that point it may be too late for him to make it onto the ballot for the general election in some states.

Quote:I think the 1912 election would be a better analogue. Teddy Roosevelt, a wildly popular President, ran as a third party in opposition to his former Republican colleague William Howard Taft. He and Taft split the Republican vote deeply, allowing Woodrow Wilson to win easily. If Roosevelt had run as a Republican, or the Republicans had backed him instead of Taft, Wilson would not have won in 1912.

 

In fact, the 1912 election has a lot of parallels to 2016. The Democratic Party faced a split of its own (albeit much more minor) when Eugene Debs ran under the Socialist Party's banner. I suspect the end result will be the same, too. The GOP convention will find a way to make someone, anyone, not named Trump the nominee, Trump will go to a third party and shred what's left of the Republicans, and the Democrat will take it as a result. I don't see Sanders running as a third party candidate, partially because he's already said he won't, and partially because I don't think he could live with himself if the 15% of the vote he took was enough to put Trump in the White House.

 

I'm basing it off of Hillary's unpopularity.  

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It could very well happen folks.

 

I threw up in my  mouth reading this...

I will never vote for Hilary Clinton but if it isn't Trump or Cruz I'll probably vote for an Independent