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If he learns to read defenses better pre-snap and in-play then that'll be great improvement.

Quote:Lead leaders in interceptions: Blake Bortles JAX 18  Peyton Manning DEN 17   Matt Ryan ATL 16  Ben Roethlisberger PIT 16  Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ 15  Jameis Winston TB 15  Eli Manning NYG 14  Sam Bradford PHI 14  Matthew Stafford DET 13  Philip Rivers SD 13  Derek Carr OAK 13

 

 

lets stop acting like there was this big gap between him and everyone else when it comes to interceptions, He's not perfect but his will and desire is going to allow him to improve every year. By the way some of these people on here are multi year players and we expect a 2nd year player not to make mistakes which is not possible. 

 

It's never been simply that Blake throws picks. All QBs throw them and given the situations we were in, it's not shocking in the slightest that he has thrown so many. The issue is the nature of the picks. To date, he seems to have the uncanny ability to throw a pick at the worst possible time in the worst possible situation. That's always been the issue but your basic point still stands.

 

By nature, a downfield passing offense is going to generate a higher number of INTs than a Brady-esque, dink-and-dunk offense.

Quote:It's never been simply that Blake throws picks. All QBs throw them and given the situations we were in, it's not shocking in the slightest that he has thrown so many. The issue is the nature of the picks. To date, he seems to have the uncanny ability to throw a pick at the worst possible time in the worst possible situation. That's always been the issue but your basic point still stands.

 

By nature, a downfield passing offense is going to generate a higher number of INTs than a Brady-esque, dink-and-dunk offense.

 

When is a good time to throw an interception?

It's worth looking at interceptions per attempt rather than raw interceptions too. Still puts Blake at the high end, but it's a fairer comparison. He comes in at about 14th for all players with a minimum of 50 passed or about fourth for genuine starters, IIRC.

Lack of running game forced more passing plays as well. With Ivory there as well. He will get a great shot to progress.

I don't think the numbers will drop like some expect. I think our defense will give Bortles more opportunities in 2016 so I see similar tds and yards. If he can cut the interceptions in half and bring the completion percentage to 61% I would he ecstatic! I think 35 tds 9 ints and 4400 yards or so would be a similar jump in progression this year compared to last. With Bortles the sky is the limit with him imo.

 2016 Schedule

    

    Buffalo Bills

    Baltimore Ravens     

vs.     Minnesota Vikings     

vs.     Green Bay Packers     

at     Detroit Lions     

at     Chicago Bears     

at     San Diego Chargers     

vs.     Oakland Raiders     

at     Kansas City Chiefs     

vs.     Denver Broncos          

at     Tennessee Titans     

vs.     Tennessee Titans     

at     Houston Texans         

vs.     Houston Texans         

at     Indianapolis Colts     

vs.     Indianapolis Colts   

 

- according to Pro-Football-Focus

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I think that Blake Bortles has a good chance of sweeping the Colts (came really close to doing it last year.. should've won that game).  The Jaguars should at least split with the Titans, and Texans.  That is 4-2 (85% chance) within the division IMO most likely to occur with a small chance of worse or better by 1 (3-3) 10% or (5-1) 5%.    The problem is the schedule as I don't see any really easy games on the list.

What Blake needs to do is learn to read the defenders better and cut out the silly mistakes. There were a few games last season when he threw an early interception, or started slow with mistakes, then fired in the yards and TDs later in the game. If he can keep the silly mistakes to a minimum, and let's face it some of them bad throws last season were silly mistakes, then with that side of his game reduced to a minimum that will be a step in the right direction and we will see better stats and overall performances from Blake.


I'm not overly concerned about the INTs. Brett Favre was a great QB and he had seasons with late teens of INTs or even over 20 INTs. Anothe HOF QB, Dan Marino, had four seasons of 20+ INTs and four seasons of late teen INTs. Both of those teams were generally play off teams and contenders. So as long as Blake is throwing the ball a lot, there is a chance of INTs, and all he has to do is cut out the silly mistakes and bad starts to games, and show that prolific nature he can have late in games nearer the beginning. If he does that, we'll win a lot of football games with Blake Bortles as our QB.


For me, I think we'll see another big season from Blake and hopefully his INT count will be mid to low teens.

Quote:Why would you even utter such horrible words? I officially vote this dude to be flogged. Someone find Jdub to make the ***post***.

Haha, Yea I'm just preparing myself mentally...but the upshot to that nuclear scenario, Hurns and AR15 could make Henne look good these days (ex: first half..and only the first half, of the Jags/Eagles game in 2014).

Can you imagine the contract he's going to get if he keeps improving? Realistically we don't need to extend him for 3 more years. Look at what Brock just got and how much qb contracts have increased the past couple years. He'll likely make Luck's rumored contract seem like a deal.

Proved to me he can be a stat machine, now I need to see less INTs and more crunch time plays.


Then the metamorphosis will be complete.

Quote:Haha, Yea I'm just preparing myself mentally...but the upshot to that nuclear scenario, Hurns and AR15 could make Henne look good these days (ex: first half..and only the first half, of the Jags/Eagles game in 2014).

You're acting like a troll

Quote:Proved to me he can be a stat machine, now I need to see less INTs and more crunch time plays.

Then the metamorphosis will be complete.

So you say Blake Bortles suck?

He'll improve.  Wins and less turnovers.  He'll probably regress in explosive plays and TDs as our offense becomes more balanced/less playing from behind/garbage time.

As to the other poster who wants to see more crunch time plays..  Bortles doesn't falter in the crunch, if only for those around him.  If we have closer games, I suspect he'll be a leader again in fourth quarter comebacks and wins.

Quote:So you say Blake Bortles suck?

Sorry if this is a whoosh. It's been happening a lot to me lately.


In case it's not, with Bortles play/ stats (even if they're padded like some people say) you can't possibly look at him and say he sucks. Never mind that the whole team was pretty much him and the Allens last year.


If he can lower his INTs and make more crunch time plays (which will come with his progression and the upgraded talent around him) the sky is the limit for him.

I don't think the expectation should necessarily be for Bortles to 'take it up a notch' so much as for our o-line to start doing their part! Because of our poor run blocking we became one dimensional very quickly last season. As a result, we suffered a lot of interceptions; after all, it makes the opposing defense's job easier when they can reasonably expect to know what type of play is coming.

 

How bad is our run blocking? Example- Toby Gerhart's failure to move the ball one yard after four attempts in a row. Was that totally on Gerhart? I think not. That was zero push from our o-line, not to mention generally bad play calling on that occasion.

 

As for Bortles, I think he did fantastic last season given the line in front of him. I know that some say a great quarterback makes plays happen even with a mediocre line; Rothlesberger (sp) is the usual example given. This is often true, but not always; see Phillip Rivers. I think that if the o-line were to start playing at least at an average level that both our run game and (as a result) our passing game will improve. The axiom still stands; the games are won or lost in the trenches.

Yeah, it's reasonable to expect another jump in his level of play. But it may not result in better stats across the board. I'd be happy if the completion percentage was close to 65%, TD's were in the 25-30 range, and INT's were 12 or under.

I expect to see fewer pick 6's or Bortles might not be "the guy".