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I've noticed so many varying opinions on the CB class that I decided to go through the names with a fine toothed comb to arrive at the following CB ranking. I could have kept going, but I stopped after ranking the top 30 corners...
- Marshon Lattimore
- Marlon Humphrey
- Tre’Davious White
- Gareon Conley
- Quincy Wilson
- Cordrea Tankersley
- Adoree Jackson
- Desmond King
- Teez Tabor
- Jourdan Lewis
- Chidobe Awuzie
- Sidney Jones
- Fabian Monroe
- Kevin King
- Ahkello Witherspoon
- Rasul Douglas
- Cameron Sutton
- Jalen Myrick
- Howard Wilson
- Damontae Kazee
- Shaquill Griffin
- Corn Elder
- Jeremy Cutrer
- Brendan Langley
- Brian Allen
- Nate Hairston
- Marquez White
- Channing Stribling
- Des Lawrence
- Ezra Robinson
I'll give you a quick run-down of my thoughts regarding this ranking.
1 through 5 are your elite CBs with heavy debate regarding the order of 2, 3 and 4 spots. Wilson sort of gets edged out as a bigger db that some scouts see moving to FS, but he's without a doubt a day one starter.
6 through 11 are your next tier as most will go by the end of round two. Awuzie might be there for the Jaguars third round pick, as will Sidney Jones... my #12 guy. The top 11 are starting at least by some point this year, but Jones is spending his rookie season on IR. The thing with Jones is that he was a top three CB in all rankings prior to blowing out his Achilles in the combine as he finished a still impressive 40-yard dash.
#13 on will still have guys starting games this year, but they're all at least somewhat developmental. Fabian Monroe at #13 was converted from the RB position, and while he's grades well and is often projected higher, he'll need his rookie season to develop.
#14. #15 and #16 are three high-level tall, speedy CBs often ranked higher as well.
#17, Sutton, is just a solid CB ... he's the first guy that's good, but just doesn't stand out in some way.
Starting at #18 we have the more developmental guys beginning with Jalen Myrick who ran a 4.29... WOW!!!
Wilson is another solid CB just edged out by those above him... Kazee and Elder are smaller guys who tend to overachieve...
Griffin at #21 is a developmental guy with a fantastic height-speed ratio. I really like this guy.
Then there's Cutrer at #23 who is more of a mystery as he didn't go the combine, and maybe should rank higher. The more I look into this guy the more impressed I am, but it's tough to get an accurate read. I'd love to hear some more opinion on who Cutrer is.
24 - 30 are all solid backup-caliber CBs who may eventually start. After 30 it's mostly career backup CBs until you get to the undrafted guys.
Quote:My rankings are a little different. First off, I only have Desmond King as a Safety his much better playing off the ball than in tight coverage and would benefit from a shift. The guys at the top are just too close to call. It's a deep class with really good corners that should fall as far as the 5th round. If I had a gun to my head, I would rank them like this......
<ul class="bbcol decimal">[*]Tre’Davious White[*]Gareon Conley[*]Marshon Lattimore[*]Marlon Humphrey[*]Cordrea Tankersley[*]Adoree Jackson[*]Rasul Douglas[*]Shaquill Griffin[*]Ahkello Witherspoon[*]Cameron Sutton[*]Howard Wilson[*]Quincy Wilson[*]Chidobe Awuzie[*]Kevin King[*]Damontae Kazee[*]Sidney Jones (Post Injury)[*]Brian Allen[*]Teez Tabor[*]Channing Stribling[*]Des Lawrence[*]Dwayne Thomas[*]Jalen Myrick[*]Corn Elder[*]Arion Penton [*]Fabian Moreau[*]Ezra Robinson[*]Brendan Langley[*]Jeremy Cutrer[*]Marquez White[*]Jourdan Lewis[*]Nate Hairston</ul>
I really like what I have seen and read about Sidney Jones. Due to his recent injury he could possibly fall to us at pick # 68. If he falls there you would have to wait a year to see him on the field but you would be getting one of the 3 best corners in the draft.
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I've noticed so many varying opinions on the CB class that I decided to go through the names with a fine toothed comb to arrive at the following CB ranking. I could have kept going, but I stopped after ranking the top 30 corners...
- Marshon Lattimore
- Marlon Humphrey
- Tre’Davious White
- Gareon Conley
- Quincy Wilson
- Cordrea Tankersley
- Adoree Jackson
- Desmond King
- Teez Tabor
- Jourdan Lewis
- Chidobe Awuzie
- Sidney Jones
- Fabian Monroe
- Kevin King
- Ahkello Witherspoon
- Rasul Douglas
- Cameron Sutton
- Jalen Myrick
- Howard Wilson
- Damontae Kazee
- Shaquill Griffin
- Corn Elder
- Jeremy Cutrer
- Brendan Langley
- Brian Allen
- Nate Hairston
- Marquez White
- Channing Stribling
- Des Lawrence
- Ezra Robinson
You really could get any of these 30 cbs and you'll at least have a fine developmental CB worthy of keeping on the roster.
Mayock's new top five is out, and having dropped White, Tabor and Sinclair out, he's now saying...
- Lattimore
- Humphrey
- Kevin King <--why?
- Gareon Conley
- Fabian Moreau
I had King as being a bit developmental ranking the other King... Desmond King... even higher. What's his deal with Kevin?
Moreau is still a bit too raw for me and I have him a bit lower than some, but I don't get him edging out Tre'Davious White. But, with this in mind, and with comments from this thread, I'm now thinking my top five should read...
- Lattimore
- Humphrey
- Conley
- White
- Wilson
As for Kevin King and Fabian Monroe, I'm still not sure if they should move but maybe they should be top 10.
Speaking of top 10, what's the deal with Adoree Jackson? I see he's moved him to his "special" category meaning there's something seriously wrong with him like an injury or incident.
1. Lattimore
2. Conley
3. Moreau
4. D.King
Quote:1. Lattimore
2. Conley
3. Moreau
4. D.King
1. Lattimore
2. Conley
3. Moreau
4.
K. King
So your on the clock in the 3rd round, and both Kings are still on the board.
You're Caldwell, and Couglin tells you to get King and then answers his phone and walks away. You better make the right pick.
Who are you getting?
I'm thinking D. King.
Quote:So your on the clock in the 3rd round, and both Kings are still on the board.
You're Caldwell, and Couglin tells you to get King and then answers his phone and walks away. You better make the right pick.
Who are you getting?
I'm thinking D. King.
Kevin King will be off the board in round 2. There is no way Kevin King makes it out of round 2. I've even seen him mocked in the bottom of round 1, but I doubt he goes that early. If by some miracle, both are on the board, I take Kevin King in a heartbeat. I only see Desmond King as a FS prospect.
Quote:So your on the clock in the 3rd round, and both Kings are still on the board.
You're Caldwell, and Couglin tells you to get King and then answers his phone and walks away. You better make the right pick.
Who are you getting?
I'm thinking D. King.
Is he saying he wants a guy who has all of the tools to be a top shelf CB, or a backup to eventual possible replacement for Cyprien at FS? K to the former, D to the latter.
I know Colvin has flashed at times but if Corn Elder is there in the 3rd round I wouldn't mind taking him at all. Can be an elite slot corner which is very valuable today
If we're drafting a 6'3 corner in the third round or later. Brian Allen or Ahkello Witherspoon are my picks.
I like Desmond King and think he'll carve out a nice career for himself in the NFL. But I doubt we'll draft him.
Quote:Kevin King will be off the board in round 2. There is no way Kevin King makes it out of round 2. I've even seen him mocked in the bottom of round 1, but I doubt he goes that early. If by some miracle, both are on the board, I take Kevin King in a heartbeat. I only see Desmond King as a FS prospect.
I've seen him mocked in round one as well, but the CB position is so crowded that doesn't mean much. Chances are a CB at some point mocked in round one will drop to the early part of round three. It's that crowded. For instance, I'm looking at Kevin King and saying there's no way he's better than Quincy Wilson. If I'm taking a CB at the top of round two, it would probably be Wilson unless Tre'Davious White is there as well.
Quote:I've seen him mocked in round one as well, but the CB position is so crowded that doesn't mean much. Chances are a CB at some point mocked in round one will drop to the early part of round three. It's that crowded. For instance, I'm looking at Kevin King and saying there's no way he's better than Quincy Wilson. If I'm taking a CB at the top of round two, it would probably be Wilson unless Tre'Davious White is there as well.
Tredavious White may be the 2nd or 3rd CB off the board. I doubt he makes it to round 2. I think he's the best cover guy in the draft. Everyone has different opinions though. I have Lattimore, White and Conley as first round picks. How would you compare Kevin King to Jalen Tarbor Adoree Jackson or Cordrea Tankersly, all who I have going in round 2?
Quote:Tredavious White may be the 2nd or 3rd CB off the board. I doubt he makes it to round 2. I think he's the best cover guy in the draft. Everyone has different opinions though. I have Lattimore, White and Conley as first round picks. How would you compare Kevin King to Jalen Tarbor Adoree Jackson or Cordrea Tankersly, all who I have going in round 2?
I'm slowly getting my CB tiers together, it's a complicated group. Each line is it's own tier.
Lattimore
Conley
Moreau, Humphrey
KKing, Adoree, Wilson, White, and I'll still go ahead and keep Sidney Jones here for now
Awuzie, Wittherspoon, Lewis, Tankersley, Lewis
Still working on the rest. I like what little I've seen of Kazee so far.
Quote:If we're drafting a 6'3 corner in the third round or later. Brian Allen or Ahkello Witherspoon are my picks.
I like Desmond King and think he'll carve out a nice career for himself in the NFL. But I doubt we'll draft him.
I think both of those guys could be very intriguing players in our system. I'm partial to tall corners and both have displayed good athleticism as well, especially Witherspoon. He led the NCAA in pass breakups.
Quote:Tredavious White may be the 2nd or 3rd CB off the board. I doubt he makes it to round 2. I think he's the best cover guy in the draft. Everyone has different opinions though. I have Lattimore, White and Conley as first round picks. How would you compare Kevin King to Jalen Tarbor Adoree Jackson or Cordrea Tankersly, all who I have going in round 2?
I think I was underestimating Kevin King's combine numbers. The guy had a 3.89 20-yard shuttle. That's just sick.
He's an extremely athletic 6'4" CB who can run a 4.4, but you have to temper all of this by reading his nfl.com "weaknesses." He's sort of work in progress, which is why I had him below Sidney Jones.
I did have him edging out two other tall, fast CB in Witherspoon and Douglas. Witherspoon is just as tall and fast, but he's raw as heck. Rasul Douglas is another tall CB who does have plenty of experience with a rather polished game... his only drawback is that he only runs a 4.6. ...the same speed as Tabor who is even more skilled but only 6'0".
Tankesley is a guy I really like possibly even for the #35 spot which is right about where his value is in this draft. There's tons to like about Tankersley, it's just he's edged out by the top guys. He might be a hair behind Kevin King's combine numbers, but I wouldn't hesitate to draft Tankersley over Kevin King.
I feel there's something I don't know about Adoree Jackson, and I need to clear this up before commenting on him. Mayock moved him to his "special" category out of his top five CBs, and I need to now why. This is where Mixon in for punching the girl... where Sidney Jones is for being injured... etc... so I see the move as sort of a red flag. Adoree is also a a smaller 5'10 CB so it's thought he'll stick as nickel back in the NFL vs playing outside. His experience and skill-set are enough to keep him ranked fairly high.
Quote:I know Colvin has flashed at times but if Corn Elder is there in the 3rd round I wouldn't mind taking him at all. Can be an elite slot corner which is very valuable today
Speaking of nickel CBs, Mayock ranked his top five nickels as well...
- Budda Baker <--formerly one of this top 5 Safety prospects
- Chidobe Awuzie
- Jourdan Lewis
- Desmond King
- Damontae Kazee
By all rights Adoree Jackson should rank near the top of this list, but again, Mayock is instead listing him as his #1 "special exception" player and it's bugging the heck out of me.
I'm guessing if Mayock had a 6th spot at Nickel Back he'd have put Corn Elder there.
A wild card in all of this is Jeremy Cutrer. There's just no telling where he'll go.
If anybody has a good feel for Cutrer, I'm all ears eyes.
Quote:Tredavious White may be the 2nd or 3rd CB off the board.
Months ago (before Bouye signed) I was mocking White to the Jags at #35. I rate him the third best CB in this draft and would not be surprised at all if he goes late-ish in the first round.
His instincts are top notch IMO. He's smart at reading receivers hip movement and eyeballing the QB. I think he will have a jump in his pro transition over some of these guys that blew up the combine but lack those instincts in coverage.
Quote:Months ago (before Bouye signed) I was mocking White to the Jags at #35. I rate him the third best CB in this draft and would not be surprised at all if he goes late-ish in the first round.
His instincts top notch IMO. He's smart at reading receivers hip movement and eyeballing the QB. I think he will have a jump in his pro transition over some of these guys that blew up the combine but lack those instincts in coverage.
I really like White too. In fact, it's really hard to rank the next three after Lattimore... the ranking probably should read more like...
- 1. Lattimore
- 2a. Humphrey 2b. Conley 2c. White <--really you can rank these three in any order and sell it.
- 5. Quincy Wilson
- 6. Tankersley
After this you can throw out Kevin King, Fabian Moreau, Teez Tabor or whoever the special flavor of the week it... but these are your top six CBs capable of starting as rookies.
Quote:Months ago (before Bouye signed) I was mocking White to the Jags at #35. I rate him the third best CB in this draft and would not be surprised at all if he goes late-ish in the first round.
His instincts are top notch IMO. He's smart at reading receivers hip movement and eyeballing the QB. I think he will have a jump in his pro transition over some of these guys that blew up the combine but lack those instincts in coverage.
I put the guys like White and Jones who disappointed compared to KKing and Adoree athletically, but show better skills right now, in the same tier 5-10 overall.
I couldn't keep White and Jones in the same tier as Moreau and Humphrey who also show good skills on tape and blew them away athletically too though.