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More of a reason not to vote for a Texan (Cruz) and go with New York (Trump) instead!

Quote:More of a reason not to vote for a Texan (Cruz) and go with New York (Trump) instead!

 

huh? Trump support Planned Parenthood, he's been "pro-choice" right up until he decided to run for President and knows that's a deal breaker with much of the conservative base.

Let's say Trump is pro-choice (even though he says he changed his mind and is now pro-life), does that really matter in regards to being President?  I mean sure it matters when picking the Supreme Court Justice, (which I think he will pick a Pro-Life Judge) but until Congress puts up a bill to challenge/reverse Abortion (very unlikely) than how important is that one issues in regards to the larger problems we face in our country today?

Look Trump is leading in almost every state, and nationwide polls & unless the GOP does something crazy he will most likely be the GOP candidate for President. 

Unless a guy like Bloomberg or Sanders runs as an independent you are looking at a Hilary Clinton vs Donald Trump vote for President.


I couldn't see any situation in where Hilary would be a good commander-in-chief  she had to step down from Sec. Of State because she did such a horrible job, why would you promote her?

Quote:Funny you don't take that stance with guns?

If you can't work out the difference I feel pretty bad for you...But not surprised.

Quote:Funny you don't take that stance with guns?

I own a rifle. I like to go buck hunting every year. I don't want to outlaw guns. I want common sense gun control.

Quote:I own a rifle. I like to go buck hunting every year. I don't want to outlaw guns. I want common sense gun control.

 

Google what a child looks like at 23 weeks and apply common sense.

Quote:Google what a child looks like at 23 weeks and apply common sense.

Honestly I don't believe in abortion unless there are extenuating circumstances such as being the product of rape or being life threatening to the mother or there being a severe handicap. That being said, the pragmatist in me understands why we must have abortion clinics in America. Simply put, you can't just outlaw them; it would just make it so much more disgustingly worse. It is a necessary evil in civilized society. The scared 15 yr old who got pregnant because she didn't understand how pregnancy works because she only got abstinence only sexual education terrified of being thrown out on the street by her fundamentalist parents WILL find a way to get rid of that baby and that won't be pretty if she doesn't have a place to treat her.

Quote:I own a rifle. I like to go buck hunting every year. I don't want to outlaw guns. I want common sense gun control.

 

I don't want to outlaw womens healthcare I just want common sense baby protection.

Quote:I don't want to outlaw womens healthcare I just want common sense baby protection.

Which is what an abortion clinic is. Take away the abortion clinic and you get grandma's home made remedy, a clotheshanger up your yahoo, a trip down the stairs or a good old fashioned punch in the stomach.


I can't imagine those being any better for the baby. It'd be like the difference between being executed by the state by painless lethal injection or being run up a tree and lynched by an angry mob.


There is a civilized way to do it and there is the barbaric way to do it. But practically speaking, it is going to happen. How is up to you.

Quote:Which is what an abortion clinic is. Take away the abortion clinic and you get grandma's home made remedy, a clotheshanger up your yahoo, a trip down the stairs or a good old fashioned punch in the stomach.


I can't imagine those being any better for the baby. It'd be like the difference between being executed by the state by painless lethal injection or being run up a tree and lynched by an angry mob.


There is a civilized way to do it and there is the barbaric way to do it. But practically speaking, it is going to happen. How is up to you.

 

 

And those women should be prosecuted for murder

Quote:And those women should be prosecuted for murder

Great use of tax dollars there coming from a small government guy. You know the state doesn't cover the cost of an abortion? So instead of zero dollars from your bank account now we have a whole new slew of people to spend a bunch of money to prosecute and the babies are still dead. I don't see how that works.

Quote:Great use of tax dollars there coming from a small government guy. You know the state doesn't cover the cost of an abortion? So instead of zero dollars from your bank account now we have a whole new slew of people to spend a bunch of money to prosecute and the babies are still dead. I don't see how that works.

 

So the prosecution of criminal behavior should only be based on the economics?

Quote:So the prosecution of criminal behavior should only be based on the economics?

It's a common argument (and a good one) for life imprisonment rather than the death penalty.