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Sounds intriguing, and he's guaranteed to hit the market, unlike Von Miller or Olivier Vernon.

 

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Quote:Sounds intriguing, and he's guaranteed to hit the market, unlike Von Miller or Olivier Vernon.

 

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Vernon could hit the market. In fact it's more than likely due to the amount of money they gave to Suh.

 

There is a zero% chance that Miller hits.

Quote:Vernon could hit the market. In fact it's more than likely due to the amount of money they gave to Suh.

 

There is a zero% chance that Miller hits.

I was thinking the same about Vernon, but I've also heard through restructuring other deals, the Fish will try to retain him.

If Vernon stays in MIA then we should look at Ware and Williams as good options. 

As long as one of these guys is a Jag by training camp then I am good...

 

Olivier Vernon

Mario Williams

Chandler Jones

Jason Pierre-Paul

Joey Bosa

Noah Spence

Tamba Hali

Out of them all Mario would be my favourite signing.

Quote:Sounds intriguing, and he's guaranteed to hit the market, unlike Von Miller or Olivier Vernon.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...hat-i-was/

If I wanted to make a final big pay day, I would be beating that drum as well.

I'm down to go after him. Him and Fowler, With Marks and Miller on the inside........ Come on......

 

GO JAGS!!

This is a list of possible free agents this year, compiled by Yahoo sports.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2016-free-a...NlYwNzYw--

 

If we assume Miller, Vernon, Malik Jackson and Muhammad Wilkerson were to be retained by their teams, the list of likely free agent defensive linemen would look like this.

 

Muhammad Wilkerson

Malik Jackson

Ian Williams

Nick Fairley
Derek Wolfe (Re-signed 4-year, $36.7M deal with DEN)

Jaye Howard

Damon Harrison

Haloti Ngata

Terrance Knighton

Cedric Thornton
Vinny Curry (Re-signed 5-year, $47.25M deal with PHI)

Robert Ayers

Brandon Mebane

Adrian Clayborn

Akiem Hicks

Steve McLendon

B.J. Raji

Jason Jones

Tyrunn Walker

Mike DeVito

Henry Melton

Kevin Williams

Al Woods

Letroy Guion

Antonio Smith

Jared Crick

Kendall Reyes

Ahtyba Rubin

Cullen Jenkins

Sammie Lee Hill

Leger Douzable

Billy Winn

Kyle Love

Kedric Golston

Alex Carrington

Pat Sims

Brandon Thompson

Mitch Unrein

Red Bryant

Tony McDaniel

Cam Thomas

Kenrick Ellis

Corey Wootton

Jarvis Jenkins

Stephen Bowen

Greg Scruggs

Ricardo Mathews

Mike Martin

Jermelle Cudjo

Da'Quan Bowers

Barry Cofield

Demarcus Dobbs

Jack Crawford

Clifton Geathers

Edge Defenders

Von Miller

Jason Pierre-Paul
Olivier Vernon

Greg Hardy
Aldon Smith (Suspended)

Tamba Hali

Bruce Irvin

William Hayes

Nick Perry

Courtney Upshaw

Dwight Freeney

Kroy Biermann

Wallace Gilberry

Mike Neal

Junior Galette

Darryl Tapp

Jeremy Mincey

Derrick Shelby

Andre Branch

Eugene Sims

Sam Acho

LaMarr Woodley

Calvin Pace Quinton Coples

Albert McClellan

Justin Trattou

Frank Zombo

Chris Carter

Larry English

Frank Alexander

Anthony Spencer

George Selvie

 

Of these remaining, I would strongly consider, besides Mario Williams:

 

Haloti Ngata-yes he is in his 30s, but interior DTs-especially space eaters, have been proven to play at a pretty good level into their 30s.

BJ Raji, Bruce Irvin (naturally), Nick Perry, and Cam Thomas

 

Thoughts on these names are welcomed, especially from D6 on Ngata.

Quote:As long as one of these guys is a Jag by training camp then I am good...

 

Olivier Vernon

Mario Williams

Chandler Jones

Jason Pierre-Paul

Joey Bosa

Noah Spence

Tamba Hali

 

You'd be satisfied with that?   :woot:

Quote:You'd be satisfied with that?   :woot:

 

Getting one of them? Uhhhh yes.

Quote:Vernon could hit the market. In fact it's more than likely due to the amount of money they gave to Suh.

 

There is a zero% chance that Miller hits.

I agree.  I have seen other people post on this forum that it is almost a for gone conclusion that the Phins are resigning Vernon.  However here is their salary cap problems

http://www.hngn.com/articles/171920/2016...agency.htm

 

So the Fish are about over the salary cap with the 41 players signed for next season.  So they have to get under the cap and get to 45 players without giving Vernon a big raise.  What I am reading is that Vernon could get any where from $10-12 million/year.  There is no way Miami is getting that far under the cap.  Their problem is due to the fact they gave Suh almost no money last year with a $800k base salary to fit him under the salary cap but this year he is due a $28million cap hit.  So now they are going to sign another D-Lineman to a big contract.  I just can't see it happening. 

Quote:I agree.  I have seen other people post on this forum that it is almost a for gone conclusion that the Phins are resigning Vernon.  However here is their salary cap problems

http://www.hngn.com/articles/171920/2016...agency.htm

 

So the Fish are about over the salary cap with the 41 players signed for next season.  So they have to get under the cap and get to 45 players without giving Vernon a big raise.  What I am reading is that Vernon could get any where from $10-12 million/year.  There is no way Miami is getting that far under the cap.  Their problem is due to the fact they gave Suh almost no money last year with a $800k base salary to fit him under the salary cap but this year he is due a $28million cap hit.  So now they are going to sign another D-Lineman to a big contract.  I just can't see it happening. 

 

Good for us. Olivier Vernon should be our number 1 target if he gets free.

Quote:I agree. I have seen other people post on this forum that it is almost a for gone conclusion that the Phins are resigning Vernon. However here is their salary cap problems
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So the Fish are about over the salary cap with the 41 players signed for next season. So they have to get under the cap and get to 45 players without giving Vernon a big raise. What I am reading is that Vernon could get any where from $10-12 million/year. There is no way Miami is getting that far under the cap. Their problem is due to the fact they gave Suh almost no money last year with a $800k base salary to fit him under the salary cap but this year he is due a $28million cap hit. So now they are going to sign another D-Lineman to a big contract. I just can't see it happening.

If they restructure Suh's contract as expected they can free up 18 million in cap.

Quote:Getting one of them? Uhhhh yes.

 

I misread you post.  I thought you would be satisfied if we landed all of them -- my bad  :thumbsup:

He does sound pretty motivated. Comes down to time and terms. He's 31, so does he sign a 4 year deal, or more of a short-term incentive based contract (it would be pretty pointless to lose him after 1 good season)? 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...r-anything



Sounds very motivated with a chip on his back. But Philly has his former DC

Give me Knighton and Mincey. Championship.

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Sounds very motivated with a chip on his back. But Philly has his former DC

Philly's pass rushing Dline depth is crazy deep,he wouldn't get many snaps.

So I was monkey-buttgasing around the interwebs and I ran across an article about Jim Schwartz and what kind of Defense he is going to run in Philadelphia. The reason this article is pertinent to the Williams' discussion is that it contains clips from Schwartz' days at Buffalo and how he utilized that monster Defensive Line that he had. Essentially, Schwartz would use the Wide 9 technique in obvious passing downs in order to get his pass rushers in one-on-one situations and let them work. Seemed to generate some positive results.

 

Fast Forward to this past season when reports are that Williams was used as more of a space eater, and I can see why he would be frustrated with that role. More and more, I feel like Williams could find a very nice niche here playing a role where he gets to primarily rush the passer.