If the goal is to get a running back like Yeldon to back Yeldon up, then I think there is no better back than this guy. He is a Yeldon clone. He isn't getting talked about a lot because he played for Alabama but he fits everything we're looking for in a back with his size, speed, footwork, and vision combination. I'm not sure how he is in pass protection but I'm not too worried about it. He is also effective as a receiver. People talk about Booker being the third back taken but I think Perkins is sleeper for it. If he is still there in the late second I would seriously consider trading up for him if I were Dave. Yeldon+Perkins in the backfield would be awesome and the RB situation would no longer be an issue.
Perkins was "my guy" in the other thread, so I do very much like him...but the Jags just can't afford to invest that kind of draft capital if he really is going to go in the 2nd round which I agree is possible. Back to back 2nd round RBs would be a terrible positional investment. I'll just have to enjoy watching him on another team.
He went to UCLA too btw, not Alabama...I'm assuming that was a train of thought mistake.
Quote:If the goal is to get a running back like Yeldon to back Yeldon up, then I think there is no better back than this guy. He is a Yeldon clone. He isn't getting talked about a lot because he played for Alabama but he fits everything we're looking for in a back with his size, speed, footwork, and vision combination. I'm not sure how he is in pass protection but I'm not too worried about it. He is also effective as a receiver. People talk about Booker being the third back taken but I think Perkins is sleeper for it. If he is still there in the late second I would seriously consider trading up for him if I were Dave. Yeldon+Perkins in the backfield would be awesome and the RB situation would no longer be an issue.
There are so many other positions of greater need than running back. Defensive line, free safety, linebacker, offensive line, to name a few. I can't see any way we would take a running back in the first 4 rounds.
If Perkins is the best player on the board then you take him. if the talent leftover after our number 7th pick in the second round is marginal at best at the positions you guys are talking about (which is very likely looking at who will be available) then RB should be the pick. The only corners and linebackers that will be left in the third round are projects and small fast guys who we already have in Telvin. this is not a very good draft. You take BPA in drafts like these. We drafted for need in 2013 and we see how that turned out.
Quote:Perkins was "my guy" in the other thread, so I do very much like him...but the Jags just can't afford to invest that kind of draft capital if he really is going to go in the 2nd round which I agree is possible. Back to back 2nd round RBs would be a terrible positional investment. I'll just have to enjoy watching him on another team.
He went to UCLA too btw, not Alabama...I'm assuming that was a train of thought mistake.
I mean to type the only reason he doesn't get any hype is because he didn't play for Alabama.
This draft is deep at the positions we need, particularly Dline. Let's go ahead and not draft another RB in the second round, that would be great.
I said trade back into the second. We would not using our high second pick on him. And the rest of the league knows Interior DL is one of the few deep positions in this draft too. There will be a run on them.
I'd rather select Aaron Green in the 5th round. He has a nice skill set for the position that we don't have.
I would be very angry if Caldwell did anything of the sort.
Quote:I'd rather select Aaron Green in the 5th round. He has a nice skill set for the position that we don't have.
This.
There is a reason he will be in the 5th round. Would you rather have two very good all around backs where you don't have to worry about one going out or a back who can't pass protect?
Quote:There is a reason he will be in the 5th round. Would you rather have two very good all around backs where you don't have to worry about one going out or a back who can't pass protect?
A running back in the second round this year is a stupid move no matter how you spin it.
Quote:I said trade back into the second. We would not using our high second pick on him. And the rest of the league knows Interior DL is one of the few deep positions in this draft too. There will be a run on them.
Typically you see runs at positions when it is perceived to be a thin class at that position, not a deep one.
Quote:A running back in the second round this year is a stupid move no matter how you spin it.
Haha exactly
We should draft a WR in the first round and trade back into the second for a QB after we take Perkins while we're at it.
So apparently trading back into the second has a new meaning these days. It is not taking a RB at top of the second, it's taking one at bottom to get a jump on other teams. RB is just as much of a need on this team as any other position. As soon an Yeldon went out the running game took a hike with him and the entire offense took a massive step back. We need another good viable running back to complete this offense. Just because the defense needs help does not mean you neglect the offense.
Quote:So apparently trading back into the second has a new meaning these days. It is not taking a RB at top of the second, it's taking one at bottom to get a jump on other teams. RB is just as much of a need on this team as any other position. As soon an Yeldon went out the running game took a hike with him and the entire offense took a massive step back. We need another good viable running back to complete this offense. Just because the defense needs help does not mean you neglect the offense.
Nothing wrong with getting another running back ,I just don't think you need to take one in the 2nd or even 3rd this year. Didn't like the Yeldon pick that high last year either, I wanted Coleman or Duke J.
Quote:So apparently trading back into the second has a new meaning these days. It is not taking a RB at top of the second, it's taking one at bottom to get a jump on other teams. RB is just as much of a need on this team as any other position. As soon an Yeldon went out the running game took a hike with him and the entire offense took a massive step back. We need another good viable running back to complete this offense. Just because the defense needs help does not mean you neglect the offense.
I wouldn't mind a back in camp with Yeldon, Gray, Robinson and Grant -- I just wouldn't spend more than a 5th round pick on him.
(I also think an improved line will do wonders for the run-game no matter who's behind Yeldon on the depth chart - and there will be effort made to that end.)
Quote:Nothing wrong with getting another running back ,I just don't think you need to take one in the 2nd or even 3rd this year. Didn't like the Yeldon pick that high last year either, I wanted Coleman or Duke J.
And Yeldon is way better than either of those guys. We would have been in a lot of trouble if Dave had decided to wait and draft one of them, who can't pass protect and don't have the same vision and feet as Yeldon.
Quote:I wouldn't mind a back in camp with Yeldon, Gray, Robinson and Grant -- I just wouldn't spend more than a 5th round pick on him.
(I also think an improved line will do wonders for the run-game no matter who's behind Yeldon on the depth chart - and there will be effort made to that end.)
You have a better chance of getting the running back you think will make a true difference in the 2nd-3rd round than you do picking one of the leftovers in the 5th.
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You have a better chance of getting the running back you think will make a true difference in the 2nd-3rd round than you do picking one of the leftovers in the 5th.
Wait a minute. You mean to tell me that the better draft prospects tend to be picked in earlier rounds??
Crazy talk, bro. Crazy talk.
Yes, believe it or not I'm aware of how the draft tends to operate. I simply do not prioritize the RB position as highly as you do this offseason -
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THEREFORE - I would not select one prior to the fifth round.
Would I be upset if they added a guy in the fourth? No, I think Dave has drafted pretty well over all - and I have some faith in him. But taking a RB in the top three rounds (early, late, whatever...) it's just not wise to me this year. Just too many greater needs.
Quote:And Yeldon is way better than either of those guys. We would have been in a lot of trouble if Dave had decided to wait and draft one of them, who can't pass protect and don't have the same vision and feet as Yeldon.
You have a better chance of getting the running back you think will make a true difference in the 2nd-3rd round than you do picking one of the leftovers in the 5th.
Your getting me wrong , I don't like the idea of drafting RBs high. Caldwell made the right pick last year but there's no need to draft a RB high again this year.