Quote:Hillary's been forced left by Sanders, and I think (hope?) that would keep her honest. One of the few things that the far left, the far right and the center all agree on is that the government's constant violation of our privacy and dignity needs to stop. It's the slightly left and slightly right that seem to think that Big Brother is actually protecting us from anything.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article18449078.html'>http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article18449078.html</a>
Gitmo is just a front for warrantless detentions, searches and seizures, but in terms of the rest of his views that compromise the Fourth Amendment, well:
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/11/rubio-weak-on-the-constitution'>https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/11/rubio-weak-on-the-constitution</a>
I consider totalitarianism to be any form of government or governmental actions that are designed to undermine the rights of the governed in order to increase government power and control. The Patriot Act does just that. The NSA was designed to do that. Militarized police forces do that. Suspension of rights and detention without indictment or trial does that. You know which candidates that matter are on record as supporting all of those things? Marco Rubio and Donald Trump, and even Trump's comments could be attributed to political bluster.
Know which candidates that matter are flat-out opposed to it? Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders. I have my issues with both of them. Cruz wants to take us back to the 1950's culturally, and his views on foreign policy are...interesting...to say the least. Despite an early draw, I'm no fan of Sanders. I don't think his economic plans are necessarily totalitarian. I do think that his sometimes subtle, often not, efforts to control the actions of Americans indirectly by thought-policing us could be construed as such, even if he does tear down the NSA, make body cameras for police mandatory, hold officials in every branch of law enforcement (or "law enforcement", if you work for the TSA) to the Fourth Amendment and excessive force laws and burn the Patriot Act in the streets of DC. I also have serious problems with his stance on gun control, and while I agree that climate change/global warming/whatever is a serious concern for all of humanity, I think that trying to paint it as a national defense issue is ridiculous.
So, basically, if it does come down to Cruz vs. either Democratic candidate, Cruz gets my vote. If it comes down to Rubio vs. Sanders, it goes to Sanders. If it's Rubio vs. Clinton...time to break out TOR and a good VPN, use offshore mail servers and start paying for everything in cash.
Why don't you think climate change is a national defense issue?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/612710'>http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/612710</a>
The Department of Defense has classified it as a national defense issue.^^
It is definitely a national defense issue.
The sooner we realize this, the better. The problem might be 50 yrs away, but the solution is here today. Or at least some of the answers. But we can't get to the answers if we refuse to recognize the problem (climate change).
Quote:Anyone watching Fox? I have never seen a network shill so hard for a candidate as Fox is for Rubio. I remember why I don't watch this crap. When they make it so obvious they are pulling for one candidate over all the others they lose their journalistic integrity (not that they have had any for years).
Also, interestingly enough, Microsoft is tallying the votes for the caucus. Microsoft is also a heavy donor to Rubio's super pac. Hmmm.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/31/one-marco-rubios-biggest-financial-backers-tally-iowa-caucuses/'>http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/31/one-marco-rubios-biggest-financial-backers-tally-iowa-caucuses/</a>
Interesting to see your take. Lots of non-Fox viewers have indeed felt that way for years and years. Fox brought that obvious slant and bias, a whole new dimension, to 24 hr cable news. But it is interesting to see how Trump is effecting voters. I think most democrats could have told you that Fox News has been the official mouthpiece of the republican national committee any number of years ago.
Quote:Christ, it's like picking between herpes and chlamydia.
Yea if your a conservative. I basically want more Obama. So if either Hillary or Bernie can deliver I'm happy.
Quote:Why don't you think climate change is a national defense issue?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/612710'>http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/612710</a>
The Department of Defense has classified it as a national defense issue.^^
It is definitely a national defense issue.
The sooner we realize this, the better. The problem might be 50 yrs away, but the solution is here today. Or at least some of the answers. But we can't get to the answers if we refuse to recognize the problem (climate change).
Remember conservatives don't believe in science.
I just very reluctantly changed my vote to Cruz. With Paul gone, he's the only candidate left that values personal liberties above statism or "national security".
Quote:I just very reluctantly changed my vote to Cruz. With Paul gone, he's the only candidate left that values personal liberties above statism or "national security".
Ummm..
You do know Bernie was the only one to vote against the Patriot Act, right?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Homeland_Security.htm'>http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Homeland_Security.htm</a>
Quote:Yea if your a conservative. I basically want more Obama. So if either Hillary or Bernie can deliver I'm happy.
These folks are among us and are allowed to vote. What's more scary is that they are allowed to fornicate and multiply.
Quote:Interesting to see your take. Lots of non-Fox viewers have indeed felt that way for years and years. Fox brought that obvious slant and bias, a whole new dimension, to 24 hr cable news. But it is interesting to see how Trump is effecting voters. I think most democrats could have told you that Fox News has been the official mouthpiece of the republican national committee any number of years ago.
I don't typically watch cable news so it was just weird to me. Even CNN and MSNBC were being relatively unbiased.
Quote:I just very reluctantly changed my vote to Cruz. With Paul gone, he's the only candidate left that values personal liberties above statism or "national security".
Ted Cruz, the guy who hires ex-CIA to use group psychology on social media to manipulate voters into voting for him? The guy who lied about Ben Carson dropping out to siphon votes from him? The guy whose campaign uses phony voter violation letters to scare people into voting (illegal)? The guy who is completely owned by wall street, big oil, and special interests? The guy who isn't even allowed to run for office, as outlined very clearly in the constitution? You switch from Rand to that?
I would vote for Bernie Sanders over weasely Ted Cruz.
Quote:Ummm..
You do know Bernie was the only one to vote against the Patriot Act, right?
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Homeland_Security.htm'>http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Homeland_Security.htm</a>
If it wasn't for his open socialist domestic policy I could back the old man. But him being good on civil liberties doesn't cancel out his European style economics I absolutely will not tolerate.
Quote:If it wasn't for his open socialist domestic policy I could back the old man. But him being good on civil liberties doesn't cancel out his European style economics I absolutely will not tolerate.
Those dastardly Europeans with their work life balance and workers rights. Who wants more time away from work?..
Quote:More like Venezuelan style economics.
You exaggerating over there just a tad? What's it like seeing everything in black and white? Must be less stressful.
Quote:If it were black and white I would have used North Korea. Among foreign governments Sanders' economic policy is closest to Hugo Chavez.
Of course it would never make it through congress, so it's mainly academic at this point.
What are you on about he's nothing like Chavez or Venezuela I think European Social democracy a proper comparison.