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Seen this and thought it was interesting.




Here are the %s of how many times the teams ran the concepts.

When we man blocked we picked up more yards before contact than any team in the league, including the Cowboys and Atlanta.


Everything else was below average.

Interesting, we led the league in Man. But we're towards the bottom in Power. Ironically Dallas is dead last in Power runs... That seems strange.

Quote:Interesting, we led the league in Man. But we're towards the bottom in Power. Ironically Dallas is dead last in Power runs... That seems strange.

Added the % of times team ran it there.

Quote:Added the % of times team ran it there.

Definitely adds a little more context. Thanks. Good info!

The stats could be distorted like the old QBR rating which did not take the score into consideration, resulting in QBs padding their stats during garbage time.

 

 

 

Run Example:

 

Dallas, up by 17 with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter is content to run the clock out and thus gain run-run-run (total of 3 yards) then punt --- deflating their run stats

 

Jags down by 27 (Titans) and 35 (Chargers) mix up a few runs along the way and gain 9 yards a pop which the defense is happy to concede.

Except against the Chargers the Jags as a team ran for 69 yards on 11 carries and then against their blowout loss to the Titans ran for 48 yards on 11 carries.

Quote:Except against the Chargers the Jags as a team ran for 69 yards on 11 carries and then against their blowout loss to the Titans ran for 48 yards on 11 carries.

 

6.27 and 4.36 yards per attempt respectively.  Pretty darn good if you ask me.

Oley is a passing game mastermind who had Bortles on a role in 2015. Unfortunately he's never had a mind for running the ball and was totally lost when he had to. His schemes thought of running as an afterthought, and as a direct results the stats suffered. I don't trust any rushing stats from last year because it's not going to be anything like what we're going to see this year regardless of who is actually running the ball.


 

As for who is running the ball...


 

Ivory can be an every down back if he simply stays healthy and stops fumbling. If Latavius Murray is added, he would be an interesting change-of-pace off the bench. TJ as well can be that key backup RB with an ability to find and exploit creases, and it's a shame he gets such an undeserved bad rap in here. Then of course we have our secret weapon... shhh.

Quote:6.27 and 4.36 yards per attempt respectively. Pretty darn good if you ask me.

I'm not sure that small of a sample size is enough to skew the numbers that much. Then you have to breakdown the line formation which would minimize he sample even more.

Also, in the final game of the season the Jags went up against the Colts who quit on the season whereas the Cowboys rested their starters vs the Eagles

 

Jags vs Colts ---- 30 attempts 182 yards = 6.1 average

 

Cowboys vs Eagles --- 21 attempts 69 yards = 3.3 average

Quote:I'm not sure that small of a sample size is enough to skew the numbers that much. Then you have to breakdown the line formation which would minimize he sample even more.

 

As I noted above, please see week 17 results.  I'm not saying those 2 games accounted for the the entire explanation of the distorted stats but rather 1 of the factors that could explain why it appears that our run game is more efficient than the Cowboys.

Quote:As I noted above, please see week 17 results.  I'm not saying those 2 games accounted for the the entire explanation of the distorted stats but rather 1 of the factors that could explain why it appears that our run game is more efficient than the Cowboys.

It doesn't say our run game is anywhere near as efficient as the cowboys. All its showing is how many yards are gained before contact for each team in each type of run. 

Can we also take this information to suggest that if we had an exceptional back, our running game rank (in terms of yardage pg) would looks substantially better.

So for instance for us it shows that despite only running man blocking plays 7% of the time, it was actually are most effective run concept for gaining yards before the contact, which we struggled with all year. Fits in with what we seen as well , those outside zone plays never got any yards where as when Hackett introduced more quick hitting straight forward runs up the middle we did much better.

 

Also shows that most teams run a combination of zone blocking and gap blocking 

Geoff Schwartz just tweeted this also


"I know y'all worked hard on this but man concepts are almost out of the NFL. So seeing teams w/25% is wrong. Duo/double isn't man scheme https://t.co/726azQ2jdW"

 

So you can disregard almost all of this

Quote:When we man blocked we picked up more yards before contact than any team in the league, including the Cowboys and Atlanta.


Everything else was below average.

We only man blocked on 7% though. How much of that success is because we were doing something that was out of the norm for us and we caught em by surprise? 7% of runs is so small. 

Quote:We only man blocked on 7% though. How much of that success is because we were doing something that was out of the norm for us and we caught em by surprise? 7% of runs is so small. 

 

I thought we had a top notched analytics staff.  Wouldn't they be able to point out our strength by mid-season so we could take advantage of it ?

Quote:Geoff Schwartz just tweeted this also

"I know y'all worked hard on this but man concepts are almost out of the NFL. So seeing teams w/25% is wrong. Duo/double isn't man scheme <a class="bbc_url" href='https://t.co/726azQ2jdW'>https://t.co/726azQ2jdW</a>"

 

So you can disregard almost all of this

Wow those guys sound clueless in their explanations.


Basically their fallback is "well different teams classify things different ways".

Hold up, hold up..... The Jaguars have a run game?