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UAB rounds it out. Likely won't be pretty as this will be UAB's return to D1 football. Really happy though for the school getting their program back. They got hosed when they lost it. Had a kid who went on full scholarship and a year later program folded. Landed on his feet though at a 1AA school.

I see UF continues to play top competition in their OOC schedule........

Quote:I see UF continues to play top competition in their OOC schedule........

No different then the vast majority of the power five. 

 

Other OOC on 17 schedule, Michigan to open (in Dallas) and FSU.

There is absolutely no incentive to play a tough out of conference schedule if your ultimate goal is to win a championship.  I like it when teams do play interesting out of conference matchups but more often than not it ends up hurting you.  Only 4 weak OOC is a problem.  As long as you've got one tough one... as UF does with FSU, thats enough.

Quote:No different then the vast majority of the power five. 

 

Other OOC on 17 schedule, Michigan to open (in Dallas) and FSU.

Please, that may be the funniest thing I ever ever read.  Just look at what the rest of the SEC plays to start off the first week or two of college football this year.

 

Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech (Bristol)

Georgia vs. UNC (Atlanta)

Missouri vs WVU

Alabama vs Southern California (Arlington)

Ole Miss vs. FSU (Orlando)

Arkansas vs. TCU

LSU vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay)

Texas AM vs. UCLA

Auburn vs. Clemson

 

 

Then we have Florida vs. UMass hahaha!!!!!!! Let's be real, the majority of teams in the FBS play quality OOC opponents out of state.  WOW, Florida plays Michigan in 2017; Florida hasn't gone out of state to play an OOC opponent in the Power-5 since 1991, a few years after I was born.  They haven't won one of those games since 1989. Florida - ZERO games.  To put that into perspective, Alabama has played 12 games against OOC Power-5 opponents out-of-state, including 1 top-5 team, 3 top-10 teams, and 4 top-25 teams.  FSU has played 22 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out-of-state, including 3 top-5 teams, 2 top-10 teams, and 5 top-25 teams. Florida 0 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out of state, 0 top-5 teams, 0 top-10 teams, 0 top-25 teams.  If I was a UF fan, I'd be embarrassed.

Quote:There is absolutely no incentive to play a tough out of conference schedule if your ultimate goal is to win a championship.  I like it when teams do play interesting out of conference matchups but more often than not it ends up hurting you.  Only 4 weak OOC is a problem.  As long as you've got one tough one... as UF does with FSU, thats enough.

For a team like UF, they would be better off playing some tough competition.  With their schedule as it is now, they HAVE to go undefeated in the regular season to make it to the playoffs.  I'm considering the fact they will most likely lose in the SEC championship game (SEC W best division in power-5, SEC E worst division in power-5).  UF could run the table then lose to Alabama in the championship game and have NO shot at making the playoffs.  Just think about it, UF was a 1-loss team and SEC East champ, yet they were ranked behind 1-loss Alabama, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Baylor, Ohio State, Oklahoma State AND 2-loss Stanford and Michigan.

Quote:Please, that may be the funniest thing I ever ever read. Just look at what the rest of the SEC plays to start off the first week or two of college football this year.


Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech (Bristol)

Georgia vs. UNC (Atlanta)

Missouri vs WVU

Alabama vs Southern California (Arlington)

Ole Miss vs. FSU (Orlando)

Arkansas vs. TCU

LSU vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay)

Texas AM vs. UCLA

Auburn vs. Clemson



Then we have Florida vs. UMass hahaha!!!!!!! Let's be real, the majority of teams in the FBS play quality OOC opponents out of state. WOW, Florida plays Michigan in 2017; Florida hasn't gone out of state to play an OOC opponent in the Power-5 since 1991, a few years after I was born. They haven't won one of those games since 1989. Florida - ZERO games. To put that into perspective, Alabama has played 12 games against OOC Power-5 opponents out-of-state, including 1 top-5 team, 3 top-10 teams, and 4 top-25 teams. FSU has played 22 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out-of-state, including 3 top-5 teams, 2 top-10 teams, and 5 top-25 teams. Florida 0 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out of state, 0 top-5 teams, 0 top-10 teams, 0 top-25 teams. If I was a UF fan, I'd be embarrassed.

Guess that debunked your little theory trav.

Quote:Please, that may be the funniest thing I ever ever read.  Just look at what the rest of the SEC plays to start off the first week or two of college football this year.

 

Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech (Bristol)

Georgia vs. UNC (Atlanta)

Missouri vs WVU

Alabama vs Southern California (Arlington)

Ole Miss vs. FSU (Orlando)

Arkansas vs. TCU

LSU vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay)

Texas AM vs. UCLA

Auburn vs. Clemson

 

 

Then we have Florida vs. UMass hahaha!!!!!!! Let's be real, the majority of teams in the FBS play quality OOC opponents out of state.  WOW, Florida plays Michigan in 2017; Florida hasn't gone out of state to play an OOC opponent in the Power-5 since 1991, a few years after I was born.  They haven't won one of those games since 1989. Florida - ZERO games.  To put that into perspective, Alabama has played 12 games against OOC Power-5 opponents out-of-state, including 1 top-5 team, 3 top-10 teams, and 4 top-25 teams.  FSU has played 22 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out-of-state, including 3 top-5 teams, 2 top-10 teams, and 5 top-25 teams. Florida 0 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out of state, 0 top-5 teams, 0 top-10 teams, 0 top-25 teams.  If I was a UF fan, I'd be embarrassed.

Why is it that Florida gets no credit for OOC when it comes to FSU? One of the best teams in the country year in and year out? Why is it so important that it has to be out of state? Why is it that you ignore the fact that Florida plays the same type OOC as the vast majority of the power five, yet is ignored?

 

And I will add, why does it matter if it is game one or two? In the long run the games scheduled OOC are the ones with more impact. You can recover much easier from an earlier season OOC loss then you can a loss at the end of the season with a game against FSU. Bama and Ohio State prove that, among others.

Quote:Guess that debunked your little theory trav.

Not at all.

Quote:Please, that may be the funniest thing I ever ever read.  Just look at what the rest of the SEC plays to start off the first week or two of college football this year.

 

Tennessee vs. Virginia Tech (Bristol)

Georgia vs. UNC (Atlanta)

Missouri vs WVU

Alabama vs Southern California (Arlington)

Ole Miss vs. FSU (Orlando)

Arkansas vs. TCU

LSU vs. Wisconsin (Green Bay)

Texas AM vs. UCLA

Auburn vs. Clemson

 

 

Then we have Florida vs. UMass hahaha!!!!!!! Let's be real, the majority of teams in the FBS play quality OOC opponents out of state.  WOW, Florida plays Michigan in 2017; Florida hasn't gone out of state to play an OOC opponent in the Power-5 since 1991, a few years after I was born.  They haven't won one of those games since 1989. Florida - ZERO games.  To put that into perspective, Alabama has played 12 games against OOC Power-5 opponents out-of-state, including 1 top-5 team, 3 top-10 teams, and 4 top-25 teams.  FSU has played 22 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out-of-state, including 3 top-5 teams, 2 top-10 teams, and 5 top-25 teams. Florida 0 games against Power-5 OOC opponents out of state, 0 top-5 teams, 0 top-10 teams, 0 top-25 teams.  If I was a UF fan, I'd be embarrassed.

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Interesting,

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Tennessee 2016 OOC - App State, VT, Ohio, Tennessee Tech

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Georgia  2016 OOC - North Carolina, Nichols State, Louisiana, GT

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Missouri 2016 OOC - West Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Delaware State, Middle Tennessee

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Alabama 2016 OOC - USC, Western Kentucky, Kent State, UT Chatt

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ole Miss 2016 OOC - FSU, Wofford, Memphis, Ga. Southern

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Arkansas 2016 OOC - La Tech, TCU, Texas State, Alcorn State

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">LSU 2016 OOC - Wisconson, Jacksonville St., Southern Miss, South Alabama

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Texas A&M 2016 OOC - UCLA, Prairie View A&M, New Mexico State, UTSA

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Auburn 2016 OOC - Clemson, Arkansas State, Univ Louisiana Monroe, Alabama A&M

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Florida 2016 OOC - UMass, North Texas, Presbyterian, FSU

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Makes your original set up look ridiculous and tells more of (as in the whole) story.

Quote:Why is it that Florida gets no credit for OOC when it comes to FSU? One of the best teams in the country year in and year out? Why is it so important that it has to be out of state? Why is it that you ignore the fact that Florida plays the same type OOC as the vast majority of the power five, yet is ignored?

That's one week out of a college football season.  Week 13 is full of these OOC matchups, UF vs. FSU, BYU vs Utah State, Kentucky vs. Louisville, Georgia vs. Georgia Tech, Stanford vs. Notre Dame, South Carolina vs. Clemson, etc.  FSU has a hard OOC matchup that week, against UF.  However, they also play a top ranked Ole Miss, AND Alabama, AND a top 10 Oklahoma, AND a top 10 BYU, AND Oklahoma State, AND Notre Dame, AND Southern Cal, and so on and so on.

 

I mean don't get me wrong.  I understand why Florida doesn't schedule major OOC opponents away from Gainesville.  During the time period noted above, UF is a combined 5-14-1 against FSU and Miami away from Gainesville.

So because UF-FSU play late in the season it has some sort of lesser value in your eyes? It would be better week one or two?


When you look at the whole picture of the teams you posted your argument looks terrible when it comes to OOC.


So FSU being drug in this now? Jimbo went on record a few yew years ago stating he'd like the lighter scheduling when it comes to OOC. This season was Texas State, USF, UT Chatt, UF.

 

You can't include ND as scheduling as this game is now a mandatory one every few years since ND is using the ACC part time. They didn't actively go out to schedule them, it's not OOC

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Interesting,

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> 

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Tennessee 2016 OOC - App State, VT, Ohio, Tennessee Tech

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Georgia  2016 OOC - North Carolina, Nichols State, Louisiana, GT

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Missouri 2016 OOC - West Virginia, Eastern Michigan, Delaware State, Middle Tennessee

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Alabama 2016 OOC - USC, Western Kentucky, Kent State, UT Chatt

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Ole Miss 2016 OOC - FSU, Wofford, Memphis, Ga. Southern

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Arkansas 2016 OOC - La Tech, TCU, Texas State, Alcorn State

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">LSU 2016 OOC - Wisconson, Jacksonville St., Southern Miss, South Alabama

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Texas A&M 2016 OOC - UCLA, Prairie View A&M, New Mexico State, UTSA

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Auburn 2016 OOC - Clemson, Arkansas State, Univ Louisiana Monroe, Alabama A&M

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Florida 2016 OOC - UMass, North Texas, Presbyterian, FSU

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> 

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Makes your original set up look ridiculous and tells more of (as in the whole) story.

 

So, I guess basically you are saying these two teams OOC schedules vs Power-5 since 2002 are the same in terms of strength?

 

Florida - FSU x14

Georgia - Georgia Tech x14, Clemson x4, Colorado x2, Oklahoma State x2, Arizona State x2

 

Please. haha

Quote:So, I guess basically you are saying these two teams OOC schedules vs Power-5 since 2002 are the same in terms of strength?

 

Florida - FSU x14

Georgia - Georgia Tech x14, Clemson x4, Colorado x2, Oklahoma State x2, Arizona State x2

 

Please. haha

No, I never said anything about OOC since 2002, that is you inferring what you'd like. But in terms of strength I will say that Florida's schedule as a whole is stronger then any team outside of the SEC.

 

On top of FSU, Florida plays LSU every year and people hate to hear it, but play a tougher schedule then any team in any other conference year in and out.

127-55, two National Titles, and won the SEC East six times since 2002. Not a bad run, bad scheduling or not...

 

Also Miami x 4.

Quote:So because UF-FSU play late in the season it has some sort of lesser value in your eyes? It would be better week one or two?


When you look at the whole picture of the teams you posted your argument looks terrible when it comes to OOC.


So FSU being drug in this now? Jimbo went on record a few yew years ago stating he'd like the lighter scheduling when it comes to OOC. This season was Texas State, USF, UT Chatt, UF.

 

You can't include ND as scheduling as this game is now a mandatory one every few years since ND is using the ACC part time. They didn't actively go out to schedule them, it's not OOC

First, I was speaking of the Notre Dame schedule from a few years ago.  So, yes, they did actively go out and schedule them.
 
Second, I wasn't dragging FSU into this.  I was using FSU and Alabama as examples (one being from the rival division, the other a main rival).  With that said, there is no comparison in schedules.  Yes, UF has played FSU 24 times since 1991.  However, UF has scheduled no other opponents from the Power-5.  The same can not be said for FSU.
 
Third, I would be completely fine if Alabama or another team from the SEC West scheduled ZERO OOC opponents from the Power 5. They play in by far the best division in the Power 5, not the by far very worst like the Gators.  If you play in the SEC East, you dont play anybody.  
 
Look at only last 5 years:
 
In their division alone, Alabama has faced 19 ranked opponents (7 top 10).
Florida has only faced 8 ranked opponents (2 top 10).

Quote:No, I never said anything about OOC since 2002, that is you inferring what you'd like. But in terms of strength I will say that Florida's schedule as a whole is stronger then any team outside of the SEC.

 

On top of FSU, Florida plays LSU every year and people hate to hear it, but play a tougher schedule then any team in any other conference year in and out.

127-55, two National Titles, and won the SEC East six times since 2002. Not a bad run, bad scheduling or not...

 

Also Miami x 4.

Yes, UF had a good run from 1991-2008.  A good run ONLY if you consider 17 years out of their 109 year existence.  I guess let's ignore the fact that in the other 92 years they accounted for 0 national titles and 0 conference titles.  The only other team in the SEC to have ZERO conference championships was Sewanee who was in the SEC for only 8 years.  The only other teams to have ZERO national championships was Sewanee, Tulane, Vanderbilt, and Mississippi State.

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<div>First, I was speaking of the Notre Dame schedule from a few years ago.  So, yes, they did actively go out and schedule them.
 
Second, I wasn't dragging FSU into this.  I was using FSU and Alabama as examples (one being from the rival division, the other a main rival).  With that said, there is no comparison in schedules.  Yes, UF has played FSU 24 times since 1991.  However, UF has scheduled no other opponents from the Power-5.  The same can not be said for FSU.
 
Third, I would be completely fine if Alabama or another team from the SEC West scheduled ZERO OOC opponents from the Power 5. They play in by far the best division in the Power 5, not the by far very worst like the Gators.  If you play in the SEC East, you dont play anybody.  
 
Look at only last 5 years:
 
In their division alone, Alabama has faced 19 ranked opponents (7 top 10).
Florida has only faced 8 ranked opponents (2 top 10).
 

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Sure you drug them into this. Your first first response was to point out how well many other SEC schools schedule OOC. That was squashed when I gave the whole story, so then you bring up FSU. Not only did you bring more to your argument in FSU, you brought in a particular time frame of 2002. You can twist and turn the argument however you see fit, my original point still remains intact. UF doesn't schedule much different then the vast majority of power five schools.

 

Even in the SEC East, the schedule combined with the West opponents is still tougher then any other school not in the SEC year in and out, period.

Quote:Yes, UF had a good run from 1991-2008.  A good run ONLY if you consider 17 years out of their 109 year existence.  I guess let's ignore the fact that in the other 92 years they accounted for 0 national titles and 0 conference titles.  The only other team in the SEC to have ZERO conference championships was Sewanee who was in the SEC for only 8 years.  The only other teams to have ZERO national championships was Sewanee, Tulane, Vanderbilt, and Mississippi State.

Here we go ago again. More useless info to the argument because you can't make your original fit. Great job. Bringing up Sewanee, this is rich.

 

So now you throw out 2002-2015, it's only 2002-2008 now. Then you bring up more stuff that has no bearing on your original take. No matter the fluff, fact remains that UF's OOC is like most other power fives.

Quote:Here we go ago again. More useless info to the argument because you can't make your original fit. Great job. Bringing up Sewanee, this is rich.

 

So now you throw out 2002-2015, it's only 2002-2008 now. Then you bring up more stuff that has no bearing on your original take. No matter the fluff, fact remains that UF's OOC is like most other power fives.

You are the one that brought up UF's run of conference titles and national championships.  You failed to mention that besides that very brief time period, UF won 0 conference titles and 0 national titles (A feat only matched by Suwanee's 8 year stint in the SEC).  

 

Still, two fact remain that cannot be disputed.  First, besides the very brief time period YOU noted, UF remains one of the most unaccomplished, nonexistent football programs in history.  Second, UF's OOC schedule is one of the worst in the SEC and entire college football.  I don't care if you compare it by year by year or by a series of years.  Ex. This year, Georgia played two OOC opponents from the Power 5.  Florida played one.  Edge: Georgia.  From 2002-now (use that number only because that's how far ESPN goes, was trying to limit my databases), UF has played 14 OOC opponents from the Power-5, Georgia 24.  Edge: Georgia.  I don't care what team, year, series of years, eras, you use, 9 times out of 10, UF's schedule will pale in comparison.

Quote:You are the one that brought up UF's run of conference titles and national championships. You failed to mention that besides that very brief time period, UF won 0 conference titles and 0 national titles (A feat only matched by Suwanee's 8 year stint in the SEC).


Still, two fact remain that cannot be disputed. First, besides the very brief time period YOU noted, UF remains one of the most unaccomplished, nonexistent football programs in history. Second, UF's OOC schedule is one of the worst in the SEC and entire college football. I don't care if you compare it by year by year or by a series of years. Ex. This year, Georgia played two OOC opponents from the Power 5. Florida played one. Edge: Georgia. From 2002-now (use that number only because that's how far ESPN goes, was trying to limit my databases), UF has played 14 OOC opponents from the Power-5, Georgia 24. Edge: Georgia. I don't care what team, year, series of years, eras, you use, 9 times out of 10, UF's schedule will pale in comparison.

Correct, I brought it up After you changed your tune on your original point. What are you not seeing here ?


I brought up only the time period you mentioned, which then you bring up more useless info that had nothing at all to do with my original point, or your original comment. It was brought up because I buried your original point.


None of the other stuff even matters in all of this situation. But I'll add that even the easiest SEC schedule is tougher than any other conferences schedule. Though that doesn't even matter to the original point/s.