Quote:I have no idea what this is, but I really enjoy the I.D. channel, and this has really piqued my interest (because of this thread).
I'm the type that would carve out an entire day to veg out on something like this.
Joe Kenda (Homicide Hunter)
The first 48
A Crime to remember
Fear thy Neighbor
Unusual Suspects
Wive's with Knives
Evil lives here
Surviving evil
Deadly Women
Disappeared
Deadly devotion
on, and on.
Fatal vowes
I love that channel!!
Quote:I have no idea what this is, but I really enjoy the I.D. channel, and this has really piqued my interest (because of this thread).
I'm the type that would carve out an entire day to veg out on something like this.
Joe Kenda (Homicide Hunter)
The first 48
A Crime to remember
Fear thy Neighbor
Unusual Suspects
Wive's with Knives
Evil lives here
Surviving evil
Deadly Women
Disappeared
Deadly devotion
on, and on.
Fatal vowes
Big fan of most of these too!
Just finished episode 4 and omg.
These people are infuriating!!
Just finished it.
What they did to the kid was horrifying.
halfway through episode 7.. I think my opinion is mostly made up at this point. Kid was framed watching them "interrogate" the [BLEEP] nephew without a lawyer, evidence being placed, destroyed, odd way the same names keep coming up with the key evidence find. Lastly the fact that I don't think the man is smart enough to cover up a crime scene.
how the cop knew the model make and year of the missing persons vehicle before the dispatcher told him the license plate they ran.
Quote:halfway through episode 7.. I think my opinion is mostly made up at this point. Kid was framed watching them "interrogate" the [BLEEP] nephew without a lawyer, evidence being placed, destroyed, odd way the same names keep coming up with the key evidence find. Lastly the fact that I don't think the man is smart enough to cover up a crime scene.
how the cop knew the model make and year of the missing persons vehicle before the dispatcher told him the license plate they ran.
I believe there was a reasonable doubt in both cases, but I'm not nearly as convinced either were innocent. I think the cops were definitely "helping" the case along.
Anyone catch the interview with Avery's former fiancé?
Quote:Anyone catch the interview with Avery's former fiancé?
Yes. Different light indeed.
The documentary from right here in Jax is pretty amazing as well.
Won an Oscar, by the way.
A kid that was truly, completely not guilty, and proven so.
Quote:The documentary from right here in Jax is pretty amazing as well.
Won an Oscar, by the way.
A kid that was truly, completely not guilty, and proven so.
What's the name of it? On Netflix?
Quote:What's the name of it? On Netflix?
Murder on a Sunday Morning
It used to be-it may even by on Youtube...I believe it is inexpensively purchased on amazon
Quote:Murder on a Sunday Morning
It used to be-it may even by on Youtube...I believe it is inexpensively purchased on amazon
Oh yes, I do remember this.
I've changed the thread title to add a spoiler warning, feel free to openly discuss.
I have a not-so-well-thought-out theory based on the series and a few things I've read about law enforcement in that part of the country, as well. I believe Steven Avery was a bad guy in a family of not so bright bad guys, and happened to be the one in that clan dumb enough to catch the heat for something one of his cousins did, not once, but twice. That, taken together with the same cops being involved in both of his arrests and convictions, the shaky evidence handling, and Brenden's ridiculously unethical original legal representation, at the very least there was more than reasonable doubt either was guilty.
One thing is certain, economic status has a lot to do with one's chances of getting fairly tried.
Quote:I have a not-so-well-thought-out theory based on the series and a few things I've read about law enforcement in that part of the country, as well. I believe Steven Avery was a bad guy in a family of not so bright bad guys, and happened to be the one in that clan dumb enough to catch the heat for something one of his cousins did, not once, but twice. That, taken together with the same cops being involved in both of his arrests and convictions, the shaky evidence handling, and Brenden's ridiculously unethical original legal representation, at the very least there was more than reasonable doubt either was guilty.
One thing is certain, economic status has a lot to do with one's chances of getting fairly tried.
Well, that and the decision as to who you hire or which attorney your case gets assigned to from the Public Defender's office.
At the time Brenton Butler happened, the very best-second to no one, homicide attorneys worked there.
You get someone who almost exclusively practices criminal law, may have done so for some time, who works in front of the same Judges and next to the same prosecutors.....big advantages.
On the other hand, they may have the job as a stepping stone looking for a job in private practice.
A private attorney may be someone who has been around the block, or has tried 3 cases in 20 years. Maybe they do criminal, maybe they do it 25% and get their real money from personal injury or drafting wills.
This is tough, tough stuff. Decisions I wouldn't want to make, and hope is have someone close who had a pulse on the legal community to know the deal scoop.
Look at Mike Vick. They were bragging about that attorney having never lost a trial (by the way....that isn't a selling point to me-that just means they cherry pick their trials and/or may be afraid of trial). Alls he did was plea him and put his butt in prison.
Casey Anthony's guy stumbled his way into a great case and bad prosecution.
Etc. etc..
So much luck involved it is truly scary.
His brother Earl was convicted of sexually abusing his daughters in 1995 and his brother Charles had a history of assaulting women.
I think Steven is innocent of the murder but I don't think he is an angel by any stretch of the imagination.
Has anyone else watched this? I just finished today and am floored by it. I know they didn't show everything and some folks say Netflix was totally showing for the defense but it still boggles the mind how the evidence, or lack of, and statements and testimony was given and the end result was what was.
Trying not to spoil it for those who may not have seen it/finished it.
Quote:Has anyone else watched this? I just finished today and am floored by it. I know they didn't show everything and some folks say Netflix was totally showing for the defense but it still boggles the mind how the evidence, or lack of, and statements and testimony was given and the end result was what was.
Trying not to spoil it for those who may not have seen it/finished it.
Without trying to give away too much either, I know the creators said they felt they showed the prosecution's most compelling evidence in their footage. Of course, that evidence was also the same as the evidence that could be most questioned for its validity too.