Quote:Should the Texans part with Hoyer, the Jaguars might want to pursue him to back up Bortles,
.,.although I'd rather have Chase Daniel.
Brian Hoyer was pretty good in a lot of games - definitely the best QB on the roster who matter who his backups were. Until last weekend, I would have considered him as a replacement for Chad Henne. Then he just had a rare bad day.
Quote:Brian Hoyer was pretty good in a lot of games - definitely the best QB on the roster who matter who his backups were. Until last weekend, I would have considered him as a replacement for Chad Henne. Then he just had a rare bad day.
Bad day? lol :woot:
He had a complete fookin meltdown.
Yet... they whooped the crap out of us...with Hoyer...
We need new coaching.
You know, I never understood when a fan of a team thats not very good, goes out of his way to bash a team that actually made the playoffs. I hate to be the guy that actually defends the Texans, because that is the team I absolutely despise the most.
As fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars, we are in no position to call out the Texans for "folding like a cheap suit" when they actually MADE the playoffs and spanked us this year....twice. Meanwhile, the Jaguars have not made the playoffs going on 9 years now.
Quote:Should the Texans part with Hoyer, the Jaguars might want to pursue him to back up Bortles,
.,.although I'd rather have Chase Daniel.
No thanks, Henne is a better option.
Are there even any tinhorn fans on this forum?
Quote:You know, I never understood when a fan of a team thats not very good, goes out of his way to bash a team that actually made the playoffs. I hate to be the guy that actually defends the Texans, because that is the team I absolutely despise the most.
As fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars, we are in no position to call out the Texans for "folding like a cheap suit" when they actually MADE the playoffs and spanked us this year....twice. Meanwhile, the Jaguars have not made the playoffs going on 9 years now.
Give me a break. We are division rivals. We have the right to laugh at them when they get embarrassed on national TV.
Quote: Brian Hoyer's performance was the closest thing I've seen to the epic playoff meltdown by former Lions QB Scott Mitchell in the 1995 playoffs in Philadelphia.
I remember that. Yeah, that was depressing.
Quote:As fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars, we are in no position to call out the Texans for "folding like a cheap suit" when they actually MADE the playoffs and spanked us this year....twice. Meanwhile, the Jaguars have not made the playoffs going on 9 years now.
Some fans think the Jags already have the talent-level of a playoff caliber team,, and that it's just coaching as the culprit.
I am definitely NOT of that opinion.
The Jags defense is nowhere near "playoff-caliber" yet. Not even close.
The Jags have a QB and offense,, but not good enough on defense.
The Texans have a really good defense, but nowhere close to good enough at QB.
But guess which team won the division and made the playoffs? The team with the really good defense,, despite their pathetic QB play.
If the Texans get a better QB (which I certainly hope they don't),, they'd be in much better position than the Jags' current state.
Quote:I remember that. Yeah, that was depressing.
It sure was. The Lions had a 7 game winning streak going into that game. Scott Mitchell was playing his best football of his NFL career. Then came the aggressive / attacking Defensive Game plan by Eagles HC Ray Rhodes and Defensive Coordinator Emmitt Thomas and the rest is history. Mitchell was benched in the 2nd half of that game and the Lions made the score look MUCH closer to what actually transpired when the outcome of the game was being decided.
As badly as Brian Hoyer played the other day, his supporting cast was nowhere near as good as Mitchell's supporting cast was. If Hoyer had Barry Sanders, Herman Moore, Brett Perriman, and Johnnie Morton as his skill players, even with major blocking issues up front, it's hard to imagine him imploding to the extent Mitchell did.
Quote:It sure was. The Lions had a 7 game winning streak going into that game. Scott Mitchell was playing his best football of his NFL career. Then came the aggressive / attacking Defensive Game plan by Eagles HC Ray Rhodes and Defensive Coordinator Emmitt Thomas and the rest is history. Mitchell was benched in the 2nd half of that game and the Lions made the score look MUCH closer to what actually transpired when the outcome of the game was being decided.
As badly as Brian Hoyer played the other day, his supporting cast was nowhere near as good as Mitchell's supporting cast was. If Hoyer had Barry Sanders, Herman Moore, Brett Perriman, and Johnnie Morton as his skill players, even with major blocking issues up front, it's hard to imagine him imploding to the extent Mitchell did.
Co-signed.
I love that you're a Lions fan...there are very few people I'm around these days who remember how good those offensive skill players were outside of Sanders. Honestly, with the roll the Chiefs are on, I think they would have dismantled any AFCS team put in front of them.
^ Herman Moore was/is one of my favorite players. He good
Quote:Should the Texans part with Hoyer, the Jaguars might want to pursue him to back up Bortles,
.,.although I'd rather have Chase Daniel.
I see them as mostly the same guy, but possibly with Hoyer having delusions of being a starting quality player in the league, which he isn't. Both guys are at best game managers with a penchant for imploding in any given game and who will fall apart in the clutch parts of games if they're put in position of needing to make a play.
I could see them getting RG3.
Quote:Co-signed.
I love that you're a Lions fan...there are very few people I'm around these days who remember how good those offensive skill players were outside of Sanders. Honestly, with the roll the Chiefs are on, I think they would have dismantled any AFCS team put in front of them.
Thanks.
In 1995, Herman Moore and Brett Perriman became the first pair of receivers to have 100 over more receptions in a single season. Until the playoff game in Philadelphia, the Lions Offense was on a roll.
A Jaguars related tidbit comes to mind that I mentioned on the Forum a few years ago. Johnnie Morton said that current Jags WR Coach Jerry Sullivan is the best WR coach he ever played for. No one I'm aware of is a bigger fan of Sullivan as a coach than Morton. Sullivan was the Lions WR Coach under Bobby Ross and Gary Moeller ( interim HC ). Morton also played under Sullivan with the 49ers. Morton became a much more consistent WR under Sullivan than he was previously.
Quote:^ Herman Moore was/is one of my favorite players. He good
There's no question on this end that Herman Moore is the 2nd Best WR in Lions history, only behind likely future HOFer Calvin Johnson. If not for injuries, Moore could have remained productive and effective for a longer period of time and might have even received serious consideration for the HOF in his own right. Herman Moore was a great player on the field and a class act all the way. He's put his communications background at the University of Virginia, one of the best communications programs in the U.S., to good use. Including, as an analyst on Lions Pre-Season telecasts.
Quote: There's no question on this end that Herman Moore is the 2nd Best WR in Lions history, only behind likely future HOFer Calvin Johnson. If not for injuries, Moore could have remained productive and effective for a longer period of time and might have even received serious consideration for the HOF in his own right. Herman Moore was a great player on the field and a class act all the way. He's put his communications background at the University of Virginia, one of the best communcations programs in the U.S., to good use. Including, as an analyst on Lions Pre-Season telecasts.
I didn't realize he was doing analyst work. That's cool.
I agree. Herman Moore was an excellent receiver, he truly was. He is pretty much forgotten when people look back at great receivers in the games history (aside from alot of long time Lions fans). That guy could just about do it all. He put forth some amazing catches in his time.
Great recevier.
Quote:I didn't realize he was doing analyst work. That's cool.
I agree. Herman Moore was an excellent receiver, he truly was. He is pretty much forgotten when people look back at great receivers in the games history (aside from alot of long time Lions fans). That guy could just about do it all. He put forth some amazing catches in his time.
Great recevier.
When it came to executing a fade route, few were ever better than Herman Moore. He indeed made many amazing catches. The excellent work ethic and humble approach paid huge dividends for Herman Moore as a player and is still doing so in his post playing career.