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Quote:Looks like this is exactly what's happening.

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What's amazing about this is how quickly the Bucs named Lovie Smith HC two years ago.  

Quote:Ridiculous. I don't even have any words.


Lovie gets canned but the likes of Jeff fisher are still employed. You can't make this [BAD WORD REMOVED] up

Well, when you sweep the Seahawks and beat the Cardinals, I'm pretty sure that automatically guarantees you one more year at least.

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/LavonteDavid54'>Lavonte David ‏@LavonteDavid54 </a> <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/LavonteDavid54/status/684942095820406784'>5m</a>
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This is stupid, we can't even have a consistent coach, 3 coaches in 5 yrs

<span style="font-size:14px;">I can't post his first tweet he posted.</span>

Quote:Outside looking in, y'all wouldn't understand how great of a coach/person he is

— Lavonte David (@LavonteDavid54) January 7, 2016


I guess yall got what you been asking for smh #bs

— Lavonte David (@LavonteDavid54) January 7, 2016

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This is stupid, we can't even have a consistent coach, 3 coaches in 5 yrs


<span style="font-size:14px;">I can't post his first tweet he posted.
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Quote:Outside looking in, y'all wouldn't understand how great of a coach/person he is

— Lavonte David (@LavonteDavid54) January 7, 2016


I guess yall got what you been asking for smh #[BAD WORD REMOVED]

— Lavonte David (@LavonteDavid54) January 7, 2016

 


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  This is one of the dangers of signing a contract extension before you hit Free Agency.  

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora'>Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/684951655310213120' title="10:16 PM - 6 Jan 2016">15m</a>

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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Jimbo was like 26-1 with Jameis. He's right there with Saban in terms of production. I'd go big here

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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Ha!

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/TomPelissero'>Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/684952825407926273' title="10:20 PM - 6 Jan 2016">12m12 minutes ago</a>
 

<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Lovie Smith's staff had no clue this was coming. "We are all in shock," one <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash'>#Bucs</a> coach said.

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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><a class="" href='https://twitter.com/PSchrags'>Peter Schrager ‏@PSchrags </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/684955248532795393' title="10:30 PM - 6 Jan 2016">2m</a>

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/684955248532795393' title="10:30 PM - 6 Jan 2016">2 minutes ago</a>
<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Told Dirk Koetter was surprised as everyone by this. More to come.

Quote:‪#‎Bucs‬ DT Gerald McCoy to me on Lovie Smith's firing: "I don’t know what to think right now. I am at a lost for words. I was just out driving, out getting some gas, and my phone started blowing up. It’s 10 o’clock at night. I don’t now what is going on. I've always loved Lovie. He’s always been great to me and my family. I’ve never had a bad thing to say about him. I’m just at a loss for words. I honestly feel bad for my coach. This is unexpected. I never expected this."


"I honestly have no idea what’s going on, or why it’s happening. Next year will be my 7th year and now my 4th coach. I was liking what was going on. Coach has always been great to me even before he was my coach. He was the coach of one of my mentors Tommie Harris. I had an opportunity to meet him and he has always been a great guy. As a coach, I don’t see a better guy to play for."

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Let's be honest. Lovie Smith sucks.  The only crazy thing about this is the timing.  Despite some great players on defense, the Buc's defense has been atrocious.  Those 6 wins were more about Winston having a great rookie year than Smith's defense.  The consensus was that the Buc's defense would improve under Smith, but has been spiraling downward since his hire.  26th in the NFL allowing 26.1 points per game.  Everything has gotten worse.  Points per game was 21st in the NFL the year before he was hired, down to 25th and 26th in the NFL after his hire.  Yards per game was 16th in the NFL the year before he was hired, down to 25th and 23rd in the NFL after his hire.

 

But, yeah, about that timing.... Makes me think either they got a call from an interested party or a team was likely to hire Koetter away. I think the obvious favorite is for Koetter to take over, but it would be pretty interesting if somehow they managed to lure someone like Kelly, Fisher, Urban, or Saban away.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet


Tough to find a breaking point for the #Bucs. Lovie Smith wasn't asked to fire coaches. They'd really only started meeting.

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/RobRang'>Rob Rang ‏@RobRang </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/RobRang/status/684956517221548033'>3m</a>

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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Lots of speculation on TBs plans in HC search. Likely every top mind on O gets interview. Starting w Koetter, Gase, Hue, Jimbo, Haley, Shula

Da'Quan Bowers ✔ @DaQuanBowers91


3 staffs in 5 years!! Somebody has to be given time for the formula to work!! I was rooting for Lovie, thought he changed the mindset

10:41 PM - 6 Jan 2016

Maurice Jones-Drew ‏@Jones_Drew32


This league is something else!!!! Wow Lovie smith gets the ax after what he did with a young qb man. I hope they can find someone better!!

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn'>Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/684958244519845888' title="10:42 PM - 6 Jan 2016">1m</a>

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<p class="" style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">OC Dirk Koetter developed relationship with QB Jameis Winston as <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bucs?src=hash'>#Bucs</a> O improved from 30th in <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash'>#NFL</a> to 5th - biggest jump in TB history

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Agree, though you left out:

 

...and they get worse.

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<p style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">OC Dirk Koetter developed relationship with QB Jameis Winston as #Bucs O improved from 30th in #NFL to 5th - biggest jump in TB history

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And there goes the defense.

Quote:Let's be honest. Lovie Smith sucks.  The only crazy thing about this is the timing.  Despite some great players on defense, the Buc's defense has been atrocious.  Those 6 wins were more about Winston having a great rookie year than Smith's defense.  The consensus was that the Buc's defense would improve under Smith, but has been spiraling downward since his hire.  26th in the NFL allowing 26.1 points per game.  Everything has gotten worse.  Points per game was 21st in the NFL the year before he was hired, down to 25th and 26th in the NFL after his hire.  Yards per game was 16th in the NFL the year before he was hired, down to 25th and 23rd in the NFL after his hire.

 

But, yeah, about that timing.... Makes me think either they got a call from an interested party or a team was likely to hire Koetter away. I think the obvious favorite is for Koetter to take over, but it would be pretty interesting if somehow they managed to lure someone like Kelly, Fisher, Urban, or Saban away.

 

Their defense has issues on the back end, but the front seven was tough.

Lovie always has been a lame duck coach.


Something fishy definitely happened here.


Maybe jimbo or some other splashy name became available, or my only other idea is like others have said, koetter was too valuable to lose and this is all they could do to keep him.

Quote:Lovie always has been a lame duck coach.


Something fishy definitely happened here.


Maybe jimbo or some other splashy name became available, or my only other idea is like others have said, koetter was too valuable to lose and this is all they could do to keep him.

 

Didn't they do this when they hired Raheem Morris?  That worked well for them.

Quote:This is why I like the jaguars patience approach

Firing your head coach left and right just isnt gonna work, and it effects players

 

Lovie had to team win 2 games his first year then with a rookie QB they won 6 games, why is he getting fired?

 

David is there best player too

 

 

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Quote:Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn  1m

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<p style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">OC Dirk Koetter developed relationship with QB Jameis Winston as #Bucs O improved from 30th in #NFL to 5th - biggest jump in TB history

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It's looking like Dirk's going to be the coach.

 

Which, would be pretty cool for us fans because it would give us a pretty-exact situation to compare the Jags to; defensive minded Head Coach oversees team with awful defense but on-the-rise offense stacked with talented young players at various positions. If the Bucs do decide to promote Dirk, they'll have chosen to believe their success was due to the OC and not the HC, whereas the Jags keeping the HC indicates they think the success is coming from Gus. It'll be real interesting to see where each franchise is 2-3 years from now and see which strategy was the right one; keeping the defensive HC who's overseen the awful defense but really good offense or just promoting the OC of the really good offense and looking for someone new to run the defense.

Quote:Didn't they do this when they hired Raheem Morris? That worked well for them.

Not saying I approve of the idea. Just saying it looks like that was their thought process.