Quote:His hands have improved since his rookie year. He isn't a finished product like everybody wants after three seasons. Calm down.
They have? I didn't know it took at least 2 contracts worth of NFL coaching to be able to catch. He is getting better as a player, but he can't catch. You don't just develop good hands. Accept the fact that he doesn't have good hands and move on man. It's not difficult to see. Good guy, but he doesn't have a position in the NFL. I think his best bet is on defense. His running has gotten significantly better since his rookie year, but he's still not a natural running back, hands aside.
Quote:I always liked Gray.
For the whole 2 games you've seen him play.
Quote:His hands have improved since his rookie year. He isn't a finished product like everybody wants after three seasons. Calm down.
if he can find a way to hold onto the ball I say keep him.
Quote:They have? I didn't know it took at least 2 contracts worth of NFL coaching to be able to catch. He is getting better as a player, but he can't catch. You don't just develop good hands. Accept the fact that he doesn't have good hands and move on man. It's not difficult to see. Good guy, but he doesn't have a position in the NFL. I think his best bet is on defense. His running has gotten significantly better since his rookie year, but he's still not a natural running back, hands aside.
Ya if you were paying attention his rookie year, he could not catch anything. Last year he greatly improved that aspect. There is still time to work on it.
Catching is actually the one area any player can really improve. So, no, you're wrong about that.
He isn't moving to defense. So you should just get that out of your mind. He does have natural running skills, being that is what he did best in college.
He isn't starting caliber, but I think he can play a role as a backup.
Quote:They have? I didn't know it took at least 2 contracts worth of NFL coaching to be able to catch. He is getting better as a player, but he can't catch. You don't just develop good hands. Accept the fact that he doesn't have good hands and move on man. It's not difficult to see. Good guy, but he doesn't have a position in the NFL. I think his best bet is on defense. His running has gotten significantly better since his rookie year, but he's still not a natural running back, hands aside.
In the spirit of fairness his rookie season he had pretty significant nerve damage that limited the range of motion and strength in his hand
Quote:Ya if you were paying attention his rookie year, he could not catch anything. Last year he greatly improved that aspect. There is still time to work on it.
Catching is actually the one area any player can really improve. So, no, you're wrong about that.
He isn't moving defense. So you should just get that out of your mind. He does have natural running skills, being that is what he did best in college.
Name one person who had terrible hands and then developed them into great hands. He could possibly work on ball-security, as people can improve there, but hands you are either gifted with or you are not. I know he is not moving defense - it's just my personal opinion that he might have more of a future there than he does at running back. You can't be a 3rd down running back if you have suspect hands and are average at best in blitz pickup. I know you really like him, but he truly is a man without a position in the NFL.
The reason you saw more drops when he was a rookie (in camp) as compared to now is that for one, he had that nerve damage and two, he was playing a lot of wide receiver and OW. Tiki Barber was labeled a fumbler, but Denard Robinson fumbles MORE than twice as often as Tiki Barber did per carry.
There are plenty of other good athletes to which you can hand the ball.
Quote:For the whole 2 games you've seen him play.
Nope, when he was having good games in New England last season.
Quote:5 rushes for 31 yards...
With a 25-30 yarder called back for a terrible holding call on Beadles. Did you actually watch the game?
Quote:With a 25-30 yarder called back for a terrible holding call on Beadles. Did you actually watch the game?
Come on bro, he wasn't "killing" it.
The play called back don't count.
Gray wasn't killing anything but did show why he is a great #2 back. He's essentially everything Toby Gerhart should've been + more. He showed, vision, burst and awareness during his short playing time against the Saints. The coaching staff have already said they were impressed and will be getting more of a look at him in this final game to see what they have.
Quote:Denard needs to be gone yesterday
That's funny, I think they need to put him on kick return.
Quote:Name one person who had terrible hands and then developed them into great hands. He could possibly work on ball-security, as people can improve there, but hands you are either gifted with or you are not. I know he is not moving defense - it's just my personal opinion that he might have more of a future there than he does at running back. You can't be a 3rd down running back if you have suspect hands and are average at best in blitz pickup. I know you really like him, but he truly is a man without a position in the NFL.
The reason you saw more drops when he was a rookie (in camp) as compared to now is that for one, he had that nerve damage and two, he was playing a lot of wide receiver and OW. Tiki Barber was labeled a fumbler, but Denard Robinson fumbles MORE than twice as often as Tiki Barber did per carry.
There are plenty of other good athletes to which you can hand the ball.
His hands have improved. That's just a fact whether you choose to accept it or not.
Quote:Nope, when he was having good games in New England last season.
Don't normally do this but I'll back bklyn. I like gray. He's got potential and I've seen him flash often.
Idk exactly why he hasn't stuck with a team yet, hopefully he puts it together and can contribute for us. The jaguars need a reliable guy behind yeldon and gray has the ability to be that guy.
Quote:Nope, when he was having good games in New England last season.
Yah i.e the Bears game and the Colts game.
Shoelace actually seems like his hands have gotten worse if anything.
Quote:Come on bro, he wasn't "killing" it.
The play called back don't count.
Does this go back to you not understanding that stats aren't the only thing in a game?
Jonas Gray looked good. Very powerful runner.