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Figured that since we don't have a thread on it yet, I'd start one. It definitely sounds like Al Jezeera did their research before releasing their documentary, so it will be quite interesting to see how all of this ends up.

 

For anyone who hasn't seen the documentary yet, here's a link:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJRPxmTuxoI

A nice story for off season anyway...I wouldn't be surprised if its all true but I think the NFL will do its best to keep Manning clean.

Quote:A nice story for off season anyway...I wouldn't be surprised if its all true but I think the NFL will do its best to keep Manning clean.

 

The reaction to this story by the media is really funny to me since it's the polar opposite of what Tom Brady received for deflategate when it essentially boils down to the exact same thing; cheating.

A possible explanation for Peyton's extra large head....

Lebron takes HGH too. A lot of these guys do. Hilarious people think Peyton just miraculously healed after neck surgery and doctors said he might not play again.

I'm sure it's used by the majority of the NFL to recover from injuries.

 

Same with other sports.

This would be off everyone's radar already if Peyton hadn't implicitly acknowledged that vials of HGH were sent to his wife.

 

All the same, while I'm completely against use of HGH by any player between July 1 and the day after the Super Bowl, if the drug aids in recovery or rehabilitation, why not allow its use during the offseason? I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on HGH, so if a regimen of shots in April can impact performance in September, then that's an obvious no-go, but if the effects won't carry over into training camp and beyond, allowing its use to speed recovery would make sense to me.

Quote:This would be off everyone's radar already if Peyton hadn't implicitly acknowledged that vials of HGH were sent to his wife.

 

All the same, while I'm completely against use of HGH by any player between July 1 and the day after the Super Bowl, if the drug aids in recovery or rehabilitation, why not allow its use during the offseason? I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on HGH, so if a regimen of shots in April can impact performance in September, then that's an obvious no-go, but if the effects won't carry over into training camp and beyond, allowing its use to speed recovery would make sense to me.

 

I don't think there is much evidence that HGH helps performance. It does seem to help recovery from injury. But if that's so why ban it? Vitamins and vitamin shots/supplements aren't banned, so why HGH?

 

And no, I didn't say at a Holiday Inn last night.

Quote:Lebron takes HGH too. A lot of these guys do. Hilarious people think Peyton just miraculously healed after neck surgery and doctors said he might not play again.

 

Not to mention he came back and had 2 of his greatest seasons ever, one of which was his best year as a pro (2013). 

 

This reminds me of Roger Clemons.  Remember he had that one year when he was over 40 when he had an ERA of less than 2?  Come on, something isn't right. 

Quote:Figured that since we don't have a thread on it yet, I'd start one. It definitely sounds like Al Jezeera did their research before releasing their documentary, so it will be quite interesting to see how all of this ends up.

 

For anyone who hasn't seen the documentary yet, here's a link:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJRPxmTuxoI

Al Jazeera did very little research and their case is shaky at best when it comes to Manning.

Well, ya this is professional sports. Guys take stuff. It happens. I dont really care to judge Peyton Manning over this. The guy's neck was messed up.  I dont have a problem with him using something to heal up and prolong his career.

4 neck surgeries is healing "miraculously"? :mellow:

I don't think he took anything illegal.

Al Jazeera and research don't fit into the same sentence.

 

Their track record of "credibility" and being a reliable "source" of information is extremely poor.

 

You get more truth, relevance, and hard hitting reporting out of shows like Entertainment Tonight, to be honest.

Dude has a golf course for a forehead so it makes sense.

Quote:Al Jazeera and research don't fit into the same sentence.

 

Their track record of "credibility" and being a reliable "source" of information is extremely poor.

 

You get more truth, relevance, and hard hitting reporting out of shows like Entertainment Tonight, to be honest.

I'm not going to try and justify their record overseas, because there's no defending it. AJAM, however, is at least as good as any other cable "news" outlet in the US in terms of accuracy, maybe even a little better in terms of not spinning every single story. Manning more or less confirmed the report with his remark that what his wife does is her business, which is an implicit acknowledgement that HGH shipments arrived at his house.

 

Again, I don't particularly care about athletes using HGH during the offseason to heal. If they know the risks beforehand and choose to go ahead with the treatment, that's their call. A shot in April isn't going to give you a 'roid rage superpower in September.

Quote:Al Jazeera and research don't fit into the same sentence.

 

Their track record of "credibility" and being a reliable "source" of information is extremely poor.

 

You get more truth, relevance, and hard hitting reporting out of shows like Entertainment Tonight, to be honest.

 

 I would  ' Like This'  a 1000 times if the Forum software would allow it.    Thank You!

 

 If this topic is eventually moved to the Political Section of the Forum,  I gladly will post a couple of article links that would reinforce what you mentioned.  

He's getting ready to come into the game in Denver.

HGH is rocket fuel if you have any type of cancer.  There is always a downside.