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I'm not sure why anyone thought Harbaugh would struggle on the recruiting circuit. Michigan is up to the #2 class right now and is leading for the consensus #1 player in the country (Rashan Gary). Harbaugh doing work.

Who thought he would struggle? Everything I heard and read (and if you had a brain cell) knew that he was going to do well.  He was going to be a huge thorn in the side of Urban Meyer up there and going to give him something now to recruit against.  Urban had it easy up there for far too long, now there's some competition.  It will be good to see them bounce back eventually.

Quote:I'm not sure why anyone thought Harbaugh would struggle on the recruiting circuit. Michigan is up to the #2 class right now and is leading for the consensus #1 player in the country (Rashan Gary). Harbaugh doing work.

Far more thought he'd be phenomenal, both in coaching and recruiting. The #1 ranked back just de-committed from Ohio State and looks like he's heading to Michigan

In what delusional world would anyone think he'd struggle with recruiting? That sounds kind of made up...

Quote:In what delusional world would anyone think he'd struggle with recruiting? That sounds kind of made up...

 

One would think. If Brady Hoke was able to recruit at Michigan, then no one with a lick of common sense would think Harbaugh would struggle.

Quote:Who thought he would struggle? Everything I heard and read (and if you had a brain cell) knew that he was going to do well.  He was going to be a huge thorn in the side of Urban Meyer up there and going to give him something now to recruit against.  Urban had it easy up there for far too long, now there's some competition.  It will be good to see them bounce back eventually.

 

Exhibit A:

http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...1-coaches/

Quote:Far more thought he'd be phenomenal, both in coaching and recruiting. The #1 ranked back just de-committed from Ohio State and looks like he's heading to Michigan

 

He committed just before I posted and that's what got Michigan to #2. Michigan is actually #1 on both Scout and Rivals.

Quote:Exhibit A:
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/12204-sporting-news-ranks-all-128-d1-coaches/'>http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/topic/12204-sporting-news-ranks-all-128-d1-coaches/</a>

That didn't really say he'd struggle with recruiting, just since he hadn't been a college coach in a while, he shouldn't be tha high on a list. I'll rag on bigjohn as much as the next guy, but he didn't say what you are saying he said.

Quote:That didn't really say he'd struggle with recruiting, just since he hadn't been a college coach in a while, he shouldn't be tha high on a list. I'll rag on bigjohn as much as the next guy, but he didn't say what you are saying he said.

 

Not BigJohn. Shack Del Rio.

Quote:Not BigJohn. Shack Del Rio.

This you mean?

Quote:Mostly northern kids on that list. One kid from the south, and he's the lowest ranked one. And only one west coast. I'll believe Harbaugh can come into the south and grab a kid from likes of Saban, Fisher or Miles when he actually does it.

How many did he get from the south?

Quote:Exhibit A:

http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...1-coaches/

 

So one person and he didn't even really say he couldn't.  More that he was skeptical of him being able to pull recruits from the south and guys like Saban.  

 

You're making something out of nothing if that link is all you have to go by.

Quote:This you mean?


How many did he get from the south?

 

First of all, why doesn't matter where the kids came from? A high ranked class is a high ranked class. The #1 RB in the class just committed to Michigan with offers from Florida State, Alabama, Auburn, etc. Does Harbaugh not get credit for that recruit because he is from New Jersey and not the south?

 

4* Devin Bush from Florida had offers from Florida, Florida St., Alabama, LSU, Georgia, etc.

4* Jordan Elliot from Texas had offers from Florida, Florida St., Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Texas, etc.

 

 

Again, Harbaugh has the #1 or #2 class in the country (depending on the site) despite only 1 player in the class being from Michigan. If hoke could recruit nationally, then there is no reason to think Harbaugh couldn't. He might focus on the East coast or Midwest more, but it is/was stupid to think he wouldn't be able to compete with Saban, Fisher, and Miles for recruits.

Quote:First of all, why doesn't matter where the kids came from? A high ranked class is a high ranked class. The #1 RB in the class just committed to Michigan with offers from Florida State, Alabama, Auburn, etc. Does Harbaugh not get credit for that recruit because he is from New Jersey and not the south?

 

4* Devin Bush from Florida had offers from Florida, Florida St., Alabama, LSU, Georgia, etc.

4* Jordan Elliot from Texas had offers from Florida, Florida St., Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Texas, etc.

 

 

Again, Harbaugh has the #1 or #2 class in the country (depending on the site) despite only 1 player in the class being from Michigan. If hoke could recruit nationally, then there is no reason to think Harbaugh couldn't. He might focus on the East coast or Midwest more, but there it is/was stupid to think he wouldn't be able to compete with Saban, Fisher, and Miles for recruits.

Maybe because the only person that said anything about him having any kind of this struggle you are alluding to only said he'd have trouble in the south. You are the one that pointed out his reply as who it was you were talking about, it stands to reason that you would mention the southern players he got, since that was shack's only concern.

Quote:Maybe because the only person that said anything about him having any kind of this struggle you are alluding to only said he'd have trouble in the south. You are the one that pointed out his reply as who it was you were talking about, it stands to reason that you would mention the southern players he got, since that was shack's only concern.

 

The south stipulation was added after I pointed out Hoke's success recruiting nationally.

 

It was silly then and it is silly now to think Harbaugh would struggle with recruiting against Saban, Fisher, and Miles. Is Michigan going to land as many southern kids as those schools? Well of course not. Never have never will. Will Michigan be able to land some southern kids along with high-ranked players from other areas of the country? Absolutely.

Harbaugh should just scrap this class and throw them all back because there aren't enough kids from Florida. :teehee:

 

I wonder why Saban is stupidly offering guys like Kareem Walker (NJ, #1 RB) and Rashan Gary (NJ, #1 overall recruit), since they aren't from the south.

Quote:The south stipulation was added after I pointed out Hoke's success recruiting nationally.


It was silly then and it is silly now to think Harbaugh would struggle with recruiting against Saban, Fisher, and Miles. Is Michigan going to land as many southern kids as those schools? Well of course not. Never have never will. Will Michigan be able to land some southern kids along with high-ranked players from other areas of the country? Absolutely.

I don't think anyone disagrees with you...

Quote:I don't think anyone disagrees with you...

I feel like he's arguing with himself.

Quote:Exhibit A:

http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...1-coaches/

 

I think you're really stretching with that one.  As with many of your arguments you seem to find one or two outliers and seem to run with it while a large majority agreed with what you were saying.  He only said he hadn't been coaching in college for a while and basically said prove it...not that he wasn't good.

 

Not only that, but you had 4 or 5 people in that thread alone argue that he was a good coach/recruiter before you even jumped into the thread.  Don't start an argument where there isn't one.

Quote:I think you're really stretching with that one.  As with many of your arguments you seem to find one or two outliers and seem to run with it while a large majority agreed with what you were saying.  He only said he hadn't been coaching in college for a while and basically said prove it...not that he wasn't good.

 

Not only that, but you had 4 or 5 people in that thread alone argue that he was a good coach/recruiter before you even jumped into the thread.  Don't start an argument where there isn't one.

 

But the CFB board is slow.

Ah yes. There is no action going on so there must be a need to start an argument.