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Will this Heisman be more undeserving than Mark Ingram's back in 2009?

 

4.3 YPC is hardly Heisman worthy.

Heisman award is overrated anyways. 

McCaffrey should win it

6.1 average for the year and is going to smash SEC rushing records and rush for well over 2000 yards and could reach 30 rushing TDs but yeah totally crap and there is at least 25 to 50 players more deserving

Quote:6.1 average for the year and is going to smash SEC rushing records and rush for well over 2000 yards and could reach 30 rushing TDs but yeah totally crap and there is at least 25 to 50 players more deserving

He also touches the ball more than any other rb, he looks very average and rarely creates plays out of nothing. He's a product of an insane amount of touches and a stout Alabama line. He's very undeserving and only being recognized because of the team he plays for.

Quote:He also touches the ball more than any other rb, he looks very average and rarely creates plays out of nothing. He's a product of an insane amount of touches and a stout Alabama line. He's very undeserving and only being recognized because of the team he plays for.

Whatever you need to tell yourself hes unworthy of the Heisman

Quote:Will this Heisman be more undeserving than Mark Ingram's back in 2009?


4.3 YPC is hardly Heisman worthy.

Who do you think is more deserving then?

Quote:Who do you think is more deserving then?

Seriously! No one means more than him. No one but McCaffrey has been more outstanding. He may not be MY winner but he is deserving

Quote:He also touches the ball more than any other rb, he looks very average and rarely creates plays out of nothing. He's a product of an insane amount of touches and a stout Alabama line. He's very undeserving and only being recognized because of the team he plays for.

 

 

Yeeeeah, no.

Quote:Whatever you need to tell yourself he's unworthy of the Heisman.

 

What do you need to tell yourself that he is worthy of the Heisman? More carries = more yards.

Watson or McCaffery should win it. I would pick McCaffery because like others I haven't been THAT impressed with Henry.

Quote:Watson or McCaffery should win it. I would pick McCaffery because like others I haven't been THAT impressed with Henry.

 

Why McCaffrey instead of Watson?

Quote:Why McCaffrey instead of Watson?

Broke Barry Sanders all purpose yards single season record tonight which is pretty incredible considering all the other great players in between them. But Stanford has 2 losses so idk it will be close between him and Watson.

Quote:Broke Barry Sanders all purpose yards single season record tonight which is pretty incredible considering all the other great players in between them. But Stanford has 2 losses so idk it will be close between him and Watson.

 

I always hate it when people cite team records as reasons to vote or not vote for certain players. It is an individual award, not a team award.

 

My question would be who played better all season, week in and week out. I don't like it when people cherry-pick games and say someone should win it because of what he did in one game.

Quote:Who do you think is more deserving then?

 

Deshaun Watson

Christian McCaffrey

Dalvin Cook

Personally I would of picked McCaffrey but Henry is still deserving of the Heisman in my eyes.

Quote:What do you need to tell yourself that he is worthy of the Heisman? More carries = more yards.

I dont need to tell myself anything. He is going to win the Heisman.

And for what its worth McCaffrey has more touches than Henry.

I have mccaffrey #1 but the argument can be made for Henry too.


He does have a lot of carries but he's been consistent against top talent. I think he's really good. I don't think he's great.


The thing about the Heisman is that stats and team performance come into play. That's the way it's been and it isn't changing this year. So why the surprise? There are always deserving players that don't really get the spotlight.

Quote:I have mccaffrey #1 but the argument can be made for Henry too.


He does have a lot of carries but he's been consistent against top talent. I think he's really good. I don't think he's great.


The thing about the Heisman is that stats and team performance come into play. That's the way it's been and it isn't changing this year. So why the surprise? There are always deserving players that don't really get the spotlight.

Bingo. Being on the left coast hurts McCaffrey in a great way. Also 349 touches for Henry compared to 410 for McCaffrey which is significant but you could argue that McCaffrey does more for his team because he touches it so much more. Also the TDs are going to hurt McCaffrey in comparison to Henry. Henry has scored at least once in every game where McCaffrey was goosed in 6 games.