Quote:Boy do I hate this defense. Bend but don't break, no pressure, let QB dink, dunk and do whatever they want with us.
Bend but don't break might work against the EJ Manuels of the NFL or rookies like Mariota but when faced against a top tier QB we really have no chance. Seriously when was the last time we've beat an elite QB? 5 years ago? When's the last time we beat one of these guys:
Brady
Manning
Rivers
Roethlisberger
Rodgers
If you can't beat these guys your never going really matter in the NFL
Jack Del Rio was good at it. He shut out big ben on Monday Night Football. He had Peyton Mannings number on many occasions, and Coughlin was of course greatest HC the Jaguars ever had on both sides of the ball.
Mularkey was a weird signing, because they fired JDR for him... still scratching my head on that one... and then GM Dave Caldwell said he was going to take the team in a different direction and fired Mularkey after one year with less than 4 wins, only to hire and keep Gus who has failed to pass 4 wins in 3 years... so ... whats really going on there?
The Jags will not (consistently) beat a good or elite QB until they can rush the passer well. A decent QB carves up the Jags today.
Quote:Jack Del Rio was good at it. He shut out big ben on Monday Night Football. He had Peyton Mannings number on many occasions, and Coughlin was of course greatest HC the Jaguars ever had on both sides of the ball.
Mularkey was a weird signing, because they fired JDR for him... still scratching my head on that one... and then GM Dave Caldwell said he was going to take the team in a different direction and fired Mularkey after one year with less than 4 wins, only to hire and keep JDR who has failed to pass 4 wins in 3 years... so ... whats really going on there?
JDR - the guy with hair in Oak
Gus - the bald guy in Jax
Quote:The Jags will not (consistently) beat a good or elite QB until they can rush the passer well. A decent QB carves up the Jags today.
This is true and i hope to see more additions in the offseason than relying on Fowler. There's a lot of complaining about the secondary but to me, it's all about the pass rush. Let's put some heat on these QBs, then worry about the secondary. They'd look entirely different with an adequate rush.
Reply to MissJagsFanatic "He's not an elite QB"
That's the problem.... this team makes elite QB's out of yesterdays garbage.
Quote:That's the problem.... this team makes elite QB's out of yesterdays garbage.
The question is specifically about elite quarterbacks, not guys who look better against us than other teams.
When was the last time we beat Eli?
Quote:When was the last time we beat Eli?
This just can't be a real question, just can't.
Quote:This just can't be a real question, just can't.
Of course it is. I don't remember the Jaguars ever beating Eli Manning as another poster implied. Chances are we never did.
Quote:Of course it is. I don't remember the Jaguars ever beating Eli Manning as another poster implied. Chances are we never did.
No way, I just don't believe you.
There is no way that you can be a real true Jaguar fan and not remember the Jags making Jaguar history and beating Eli and the NY Giants. It's just not possible.
Say it isn't so.
Quote:No way, I just don't believe you.
There is no way that you can be a real true Jaguar fan and not remember the Jags making Jaguar history and beating Eli and the NY Giants. It's just not possible.
Say it isn't so.
I asked WHEN we beat Eli, not if.
Quote:I asked WHEN we beat Eli, not if.
Is your memory really that bad that you can't remember the greatest comeback in Jaguar history.
I mean REALLY???
Quote:I asked WHEN we beat Eli, not if.
Last season.
The Jags were down big. And then they started returning turnovers for TDs and won the game.
Immediately afterwards, Giants fans on their message boards were in a complete uproar because they lost to the Jags. It was pure Gold, Lol!
Quote:JDR - the guy with hair in Oak
Gus - the bald guy in Jax
My bad typo... i was tired when i typed it.
Quote:Is your memory really that bad that you can't remember the greatest comeback in Jaguar history?
I mean REALLY?
Actually many people have told me I have a good memory. Unfortunately that Giants game was not televised here, so there is nothing to remember except the fact we played at home on November 30.
Quote:Actually many people have told me I have a good memory. Unfortunately that Giants game was not televised here, so there is nothing to remember except the fact we played at home on November 30.
Do you always believe what people tell you?
Did you see or are you aware of the results of that game?
Did you look at the stats and the boxscore from that game?
Do you know which team won and which team lost that game?
Do you know which two QBs started that game?
Do you know which QB was on the winning team and which QB was on the losing team?
I'll bet if I go back on this MB I will find something from you in one of the threads about that very game.
Drop it. I don't need to be insulted over forgetting what I never saw happen.
Quote:Brady is 5-0 against the Jags.
Peyton was 15-5 against the Jags. Jags won last on Oct 3, 2010. Prior to that was Sept 21, 2008 (Road).
River is 5-1 against the Jags. Jags won on Nov 18, 2007.
Roethlisberger is 4-2 against the Jags. Jags won on Dec 16, 2007 (Road) and Jan 5, 2008 (Road)
Brees is 2-0 against the Jags.
Romo is 1-0 against the Jags.
Rodgers is 1-1 against the Jags. Jags won on Dec 14, 2008.
Matt Ryan is 1-0 against the Jags.
Matt Hasselbeck is 3-2 against the Jags as a starter. Jags beat him when he played for Tennessee on Sept. 11, 2011 and with Seattle on Sept. 11, 2005. Yeah... Freaky.
Big Ben is 4-3 (remember the MNF game)?, and Brees is 2-1 (lost to the Jags in 2003 when he was a charger). The only name on that list that bothers me the most is Brady.