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His lack of game breaking speed is the only thing that will keep him average to slightly above average RB in future years.

Quote:He doesn't dance like McCoy. Leveon is the best comp I think.

I still say Ronnie Brown.

Quote:Guess we disagree here.  I think his feet move very much like McCoy's do.  He doesn't have the power Leveon has.

Both those backs have great vision. Yeldon has shown he has that too (his cutback run yesterday was awesome and not designed).

Can we call it a mix?

Yeldon doesn't have the STUPID speed McCoy does.

Yeldon doesn't have the strength Bell does.

 

Yeldon has the vision and hands of those backs. If I had to pick one I would say Bell with a little less bulk. (Bell is listed at 244)

Bortles finally got the ball to Yeldon on some check downs. Yeldon consistently makes the first guy miss if Bortles gets him the ball on time and in postition. I would like to see Yeldon used more in the passing game as a primary and check down rather than Bortles trying to force it into the Allens when the defenses are committing so much to the WRs.

 

This will raise Bortles efficiency and lower the risks of INTs. And gets the ball into Yeldons hands to get him some rhythm, rather than running into a wall at the line of scrimmage

Just when I get frustrated with him, he breaks off a big run. I know a lot of the no-gain or negative gain yardage simply isn't his fault. The blocking isn't there. 

 

One thing from him I did see yesterday that was concerning was his YAC once he catches the ball. He was stopped in the backfield quite a few times, as I recall.

Quote:he seems to get the most out of what is there most of the time, in that case he reminds me of MJD.  With better blocking he would be doing much better. 

 

The difference is MJD was much faster. In Yeldon's long run against Indy in overtime, that is a touchdown if it is MJD.

Quote:I see fans who complain that he dances too much when he loses 2 and comparisons to L. Bell when he gains big yardage due to patience. 

I like backs that dance a little bit to give the line time, rather than just plowing straight into the nose tackle. Yeldon does dance a little too much at times, though. As the line improves in front of him, he won't have to dance as much, and some of those two-yard losses will become three-yard gains.

He is a serviceable back FOR NOW, which in today's NFL pass world is not bad.

.Not a great pass blocker though. Not at this point, and with it being a passing league that is a big negative. He loses yardage a lot and then will break one or two and up his average. In his couple of 100 yard games, which were barely 100 games, I think one was 115 and 108(I ain't looking them up), he got stopped a lot for no gain and then broke off a 25 or 28 yard run which put him over 100. But he has a lot of no gains or 3YPC and maybe one good run per game. IS THAT ENOUGH?, that is the better question.

It might be.

 

EVeryone starts off talking about Yeldon saying " with a better OL he might do much better"

NO SHT SHERLOCK, the same can be said with every average back in the league, once at this level any average back can be a really great back with great blocking. A QB can be better too with blocking, and RB can be better, and the receivers can be better as they have more time to do their routes

. The offensive line does ultimately control the skill players production.

But the really good backs do it themselves a lot, as Mojo did,  and Yeldon rarely does that unless it's that one bounce out per game he might get as mentioned.

All in all, a pretty average NFL back so far, which isn't that bad a deal in a passing league. I would like to see him bulk up a bit next year.

 

I had doubts about Yeldon early on because he was getting nowhere up the middle. That was what made MJD so great - tackle-breaking ability on those plays. But he has shown improvement over the weeks so it probably was related to being a young rookie behind below-average run blockers.

 

I usually prefer running back committees unless you have a guy like Adrian Peterson or Emmitt Smith. Taylor and MJD were different types of running backs and complemented each other. But if Yeldon can do it all, give him the pigskin. I would rather find much better backups to share the load with give him the ball on every play - at least until we have get run blockers.

Quote:I would like to see him bulk up a bit next year.

Dude, he weighs 226.

Then make him 240. I ain't seen him run over anyone yet and I doubt he could get slower with a bigger chest.. I want to see him hurt some people.

Quote:Everyone starts off talking about Yeldon saying " with a better OL he might do much better"

NO SHT SHERLOCK, the same can be said with every average back in the league, once at this level any average back can be a really great back with great blocking. A QB can be better too with blocking, and RB can be better, and the receivers can be better as they have more time to do their routes

. The offensive line does ultimately control the skill players production.

But the really good backs do it themselves a lot, as Mojo did,  and Yeldon rarely does that unless it's that one bounce out per game he might get as mentioned.

All in all, a pretty average NFL back so far, which isn't that bad a deal in a passing league. I would like to see him bulk up a bit next year.

 

 

I have to disagree with you here because you're missing the point as to why everyone says this. The point is, Yeldon consistently makes his yards when he's not getting any blocking up front. It's knowing this that we wonder how much better he could be if he actually had blocking. Time after time, run after run, we see Yeldon making yards where there were none to be had, and for him to maintain a 4 ypc average, that's impressive. I totally disagree with your assessment that he "rarely does that."

This will be a much more physical o-line next year with Cann starting, Linder back, and Wiz replaced with one of the nice options in FA next year. The TJ will get a chance to show us what he can do with actual blocking.

Quote:I think, with better blocking, he can be that guy. But we have got to get a good complimentary back to spell him.

 

He has Fred's hop step and he definitely reminds me of Taylor behind the line, very patient runner.   He does not have Fred's breakaway speed though, so I don't think you'll see him make a ton of long runs.  That said, I think his potential is very high.  He's already a decent pass blocker.  I would like to see someone like Cory Grant, not named Cory Grant, in the backfield as well.  Someone with Sproles type speed.

Quote:Dude, he weighs 226.

Banatha has not been in Yeldon's corner since day one. 

Quote:I have to disagree with you here because you're missing the point as to why everyone says this. The point is, Yeldon consistently makes his yards when he's not getting any blocking up front. It's knowing this that we wonder how much better he could be if he actually had blocking. Time after time, run after run, we see Yeldon making yards where there were none to be had, and for him to maintain a 4 ypc average, that's impressive. I totally disagree with your assessment that he "rarely does that."

 

Mojo's last few years didn't have a great line.  His first several years, they had an excellent run blocking line.  I agree with this...he's been impressive for what's been given him. 

Quote: I would like to see someone like Cory Grant, not named Cory Grant, in the backfield as well.  Someone with Sproles type speed.

 

 

What's wrong with Cory Grant?


 

Or do you mean this year because Cory is on IR?

A below average running back.

Quote:What's wrong with Cory Grant?

 

Or do you mean this year because Cory is on IR?

What's wrong with him?  He sucks, that's what's wrong with him.  I hope he never plays another snap for us.

Quote:What's wrong with him?  He sucks, that's what's wrong with him.  I hope he never plays another snap for us.

 

 

He got hurt before he really had a chance to show what he can do. He certainly showed Sproles-like flashes. For an undrafted rookie I don't think it's fair to say he sucks. I'm itching to get a look at Grant next year.