Quote:Florida was a playoff team until they lost Grier for the year. Treon Harris just isn't good
Florida started the year unranked and was #11 last week. Nobody thought the Gators were a playoff team. However they are running away with the SEC East title and should clinch it Saturday, which puts them in the CCG. If Will Grier was on the team. Florida would have a realistic chance of winning in Atlanta. What I don't understand is people started putting "Florida" and "playoffs" in the same sentence after the Gators lost Grier.
Quote:Florida started the year unranked and was #11 last week. Nobody thought the Gators were a playoff team. However they are running away with the SEC East title and should clinch it Saturday, which puts them in the CCG. If Will Grier was on the team. Florida would have a realistic chance of winning in Atlanta. What I don't understand is people started putting "Florida" and "playoffs" in the same sentence after the Gators lost Grier.
Winning the east isn't exactly daunting.
Quote:Winning the east isn't exactly daunting.
I know. Winning the SEC Championship Game is. Florida went from underrated to overrated.
Quote:Florida started the year unranked and was #11 last week. Nobody thought the Gators were a playoff team. However they are running away with the SEC East title and should clinch it Saturday, which puts them in the CCG. If Will Grier was on the team. Florida would have a realistic chance of winning in Atlanta. What I don't understand is people started putting "Florida" and "playoffs" in the same sentence after the Gators lost Grier.
It's not that I think UF is a playoff team. It's the logic the committee is using that is confusing. Based off of body of work the one loss teams that would qualify should either be Notre dame or UF. Both teams lost to teams in top 4. Alabama's loss to ole miss was a bad loss at home, a team that was beat handily by the gators. I'm no UF fan by any means but Alabama doesn't deserve to be in top 4 and this committee is showing a lot of bias in that pick.
My guess would be the loss to a higher playoff ranked SEC team knocked Florida down the list. I think the committee wants to avoid playoff rematches.
Quote:My guess would be the loss to a higher playoff ranked SEC team knocked Florida down the list. I think the committee wants to avoid playoff rematches.
The CFP committee wants to automatically include the winners of conference championship games. Obviously that would prevent two teams in any conference from getting in because four of the Power Five conferences have CCGs. But the committee also knows nobody would want to watch Iowa vs. Florida (which is possible if both teams win out). So a playoff rematch may have to happen anyway to avoid getting matchups nobody will watch.
Quote:Winning the east isn't exactly daunting.
Dude, you always throw these digs out there as if your team winning the ACC all those years was some sort of accomplishment.
Quote:I know. Winning the SEC Championship Game is. Florida went from underrated to overrated.
You can't be both, plain and simple. No one expected what they've done so far, with or without Grier.
Quote:Dude, you always throw these digs out there as if your team winning the ACC all those years was some sort of accomplishment.
It's not a dig. The SEC is having a down year, especially the east. It's like every other conference this year. A couple good teams, a few average , and the rest are eh. This SEC logic is tired. Coming from people like you if you don't play in the SEC then you're team isnt any good and is highly overrated. Guess we should all just forfeit our games because we don't play in the SEC . Lol you SEC homers are a funny bunch .
Quote:Dude, you always throw these digs out there as if your team winning the ACC all those years was some sort of accomplishment.
Dude, the east is not that difficult of a division. Just because it has SEC in front of it doesn't mean it's full of juggernauts.
Quote:Dude, the east is not that difficult of a division. Just because it has SEC in front of it doesn't mean it's full of juggernauts.
But if you say SEC
West, that is a different story. The problem is people count the good West teams and brag about how great the SEC is based on them alone. Then they say because Tennessee nearly beat Alabama, the Volunteers aren't a bad team.
Quote:It's not that I think UF is a playoff team. It's the logic the committee is using that is confusing. Based off of body of work the one loss teams that would qualify should either be Notre dame or UF. Both teams lost to teams in top 4. Alabama's loss to ole miss was a bad loss at home, a team that was beat handily by the gators. I'm no UF fan by any means but Alabama doesn't deserve to be in top 4 and this committee is showing a lot of bias in that pick.
I tend to disagree. I, personally, believe Alabama should be ahead of UF for two reasons.
One, as was previously stated, UF plays in the SEC East. The SEC East is the worst division in the Power 5. The East is 1-9 against the West (the lone win being UF over Ole Miss). I'm sure UF would be a 2+ loss team in the West and/or they decided to actually play an OOC game that was worth anything.
Two, for the most part, Alabama has looked like a top 4 team. Besides one game with a crazy amount of turnovers, they have looked great on offense, defense and special teams. (I don't think that is why they lost. I had lots of money on Alabama that game yet won a lot. How? Soon as I saw they weren't starting Coker I hedged my bet. That mistake lost them the game. It would have been very hard to bring ur team back from a 17-3 hole. Coker was able to bring the game to 6 points in just over half a game. But that's a whole other story.) Both polls, even though I don't pay much attention to them, have Alabama as the highest ranking 1-loss team. What I find more interesting are the computers ex. Massey, Sagarin, S&P+, FEI. These computers analyze so many factors I can't even begin to explain. Yet, all of these computers have Alabama at either 1, 2, 3, or 4. There's just too much consensus and too many favoring factors to ignore.
I will jinx myself.
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
Three teams virtually knocked themselves out: TCU, MSU, and LSU.
Here is the latest CFP Top 25:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...f-top-four
The top four this week are:
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
I don't like this. There are two one-loss teams. Yes, Baylor's schedule is one of the easiest in the FBS, but the undefeated Bears dropped below Iowa to #6. If you are ranked #2 and win, you should still be a Top 5 team the next week.
LSU is #9 behind Oklahoma State. That is not too bad like MSU's drop to #13 and TCU dropping to #15. If LSU wins out and Alabama loses one more game, the Tigers have a chance. But an Alabama loss is unlikely, so I am not expecting it.
Iowa has an easy schedule until the Big Ten title game. If Ohio State beats Michigan, that sets up what's likely a play in game.
Quote:Iowa has an easy schedule until the Big Ten title game. If Ohio State beats Michigan, that sets up what's likely a play in game.
The Buckeyes also have to beat Michigan State, of course.
i can't wrap my head around the possibility Iowa could be in the CFP instead of Ohio State.
I actually like the rankings. They are exactly what I posted above for my end of the year predictions. The best teams should get in period.
Last year, I believe we only had 2 undefeated teams come CFP rankings time so we don't see it as much. However, we can look at the only undefeated team a few weeks in last year, FSU, and see you have to be more than just undefeated. We saw 1-loss teams Alabama and Oregon over undefeated, defending national championship FSU.
The only issue I might have with the rankings is Ohio State. They are still high for me, as FSU was last year, but I had a feeling they would keep them in the top 4.
Alabama and ND are where they should be. They are spot on with the computers. I look at the FEI which looks at every possession. A team is rewarded for playing well against good teams, win or lose, and is punished more severely for playing poorly against bad teams than it is rewarded for playing well against bad teams. The S&P+ looks at efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. These, plus almost all computers have Clemson 1, Alabama 2. ND is always in the 3-5 range.
Notre Dame plays next to nobody all year, and the only team they have played that is any good they lost to (but at least it was close, so I guess they get in?)
I don't see them getting by Stanford, but we'll see. I wouldn't mind seeing Stanford getting in. They had a rough loss to start the season and have really turned it around. Heck they looked really bad in their second game in the first half against UCF and then really turned it on. Could be an interesting team to add.
Quote:I actually like the rankings. They are exactly what I posted above for my end of the year predictions. The best teams should get in period.
Last year, I believe we only had 2 undefeated teams come CFP rankings time so we don't see it as much. However, we can look at the only undefeated team a few weeks in last year, FSU, and see you have to be more than just undefeated. We saw 1-loss teams Alabama and Oregon over undefeated, defending national championship FSU.
The only issue I might have with the rankings is Ohio State. They are still high for me, as FSU was last year, but I had a feeling they would keep them in the top 4.
Alabama and ND are where they should be. They are spot on with the computers. I look at the FEI which looks at every possession. A team is rewarded for playing well against good teams, win or lose, and is punished more severely for playing poorly against bad teams than it is rewarded for playing well against bad teams. The S&P+ looks at efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. These, plus almost all computers have Clemson 1, Alabama 2. ND is always in the 3-5 range.
Wow, that's bold. You think the current rankings will hold to the end of the season? I am with you too, best ones should get in. I don't think ND ends up in. I think Baylor ends up in over ND and their resume will look better (and be undefeated)
I too have no issue with Ohio St. As long as the reigning champ is undefetaed, that doesn't bother me personally. Same rationale last year as FSU.