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What a bunch of hogwash and a slimy thing for the NFL to do.

So it's ok to beat women and children, make bomb threats, crash your car into a teammate's while drunk and participate in game activity, but wearing different clothing to promote awareness of different diseases or causes gets you fined repeatedly? Ok. Whatever. You go, Goodell. Worst commissioner ever.

Goodell needs to go and the disciplinary system needs to be revamed. That's despicable.

Quote:Goodell needs to go and the disciplinary system needs to be revamed. That's despicable.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if one of the things the NFLPA pushes for in the next CBA is a removal of Goodell. The man's a joke of a commissioner.

The NFL has a strict uniform policy that all players are aware of. To alter that is knowingly violating a rule and therefore a finable offense.

Quote:The NFL has a strict uniform policy that all players are aware of. To alter that is knowingly violating a rule and therefore a finable offense.

This is true. The uniform policy is very strict,, and all players are/should be fully aware of it.


Remember a few years ago when Peyton Manning wanted to wear the black shoes just like Johnny Unitas wore? He just wanted to honor the legendary Colts QB. But due to the strict uniform policy, he couldn't do it without a hefty fine.


I can't remember if he went ahead and wore them though,, I don't think he did because of the rules, but I'm not sure.



Strict, strict uniform policy,, even if the deviation is for a good cause.

Quote:This is true. The uniform policy is very strict,, and all players are/should be fully aware of it.


Remember a few years ago when Peyton Manning wanted to wear the black shoes just like Johnny Unitas wore? He just wanted to honor the legendary Colts QB. But due to the strict uniform policy, he couldn't do it without a hefty fine.


I can't remember if he went ahead and wore them though,, I don't think he did because of the rules, but I'm not sure.



Strict, strict uniform policy,, even if the deviation is for a good cause.

Yeah, I don't agree to the pettiness of eye black for Christs sake. But the rules are there. Good chance the NFL sent the fines to some type of cancer charity this month anyway. All fines go to charity if I recall correctly.

 

 

Edit: Come to think of it, the fine is probably bringing the only awareness that he would have received. Who would of known he did it otherwise?.. and for what cause?

Quote:The NFL has a strict uniform policy that all players are aware of. To alter that is knowingly violating a rule and therefore a finable offense.

So strict that Williams was fined for the same customized eye black that he has worn for years. Williams has made repeated attempts to wear a couple specific pink items to support breast cancer and honor his mother who just passed from breast cancer. He was ultimately fined because he dared to put "Find the Cure" on his eye black, again, the same personalized eye black he's worn for years.

 

I find it laughable that a multibillion dollar industry is fining players for wanting to support a cause, particularly when they have gone out of their way to document what they were doing, and why.

Quote:So strict that Williams was fined for the same customized eye black that he has worn for years. Williams has made repeated attempts to wear a couple specific pink items to support breast cancer and honor his mother who just passed from breast cancer. He was ultimately fined because he dared to put "Find the Cure" on his eye black, again, the same personalized eye black he's worn for years.

 

I find it laughable that a multibillion dollar industry is fining players for wanting to support a cause, particularly when they have gone out of their way to document what they were doing, and why.

I tend to agree with you. The fact remains is he knew the consequences and did it anyway. The rules need changed.

It is a sensitive topic, but rules are rules. Many cancers besides breast cancer affect people and these people have no way to bring awareness to the specific ailment they can relate to.

 

It is a slippery slope if the league lets 1 guys get away with it... 

Quote:The NFL has a strict uniform policy that all players are aware of. To alter that is knowingly violating a rule and therefore a finable offense.

 

But it gives people a chance to bash Goodell! 

 

And the NFLPA will have no say as to who the new Commish will be (in 2025 or whenever); that's not part of the CBA. That's up to the owners, and they don't seem to see a problem, apparently.

 

And I wonder if certain people would feel the same way if the eye black patches were Black Lives Matter or some other less "lovable" issue.

Quote:But it gives people a chance to bash Goodell! 

 

And the NFLPA will have no say as to who the new Commish will be (in 2025 or whenever); that's not part of the CBA. That's up to the owners, and they don't seem to see a problem, apparently.

 

And I wonder if certain people would feel the same way if the eye black patches were Black Lives Matter or some other less "lovable" issue.

Pretty much this^^. Like I said earlier the fine will bring more  awareness than the violation. So probably all good.

Quote:It is a sensitive topic, but rules are rules. Many cancers besides breast cancer affect people and these people have no way to bring awareness to the specific ailment they can relate to.


It is a slippery slope if the league lets 1 guys get away with it...

Well, not only that, but then you get into drawing the line as to what is a 'worthy cause'.


It seems petty at times, but I certainly understand why they have the guidelines.

Quote:I tend to agree with you. The fact remains is he knew the consequences and did it anyway. The rules need changed.

It would be an easier pill to swallow had he been fined for his previous use of eye black and messages. It got fined this time because it has gained traction all season, and last month when the media became aware of it and brought it to light.

 

Rules are rules, no question. Consistency here is key, not picking and choosing when to apply them. The NFL couldn't be more wrong here.

Quote:But it gives people a chance to bash Goodell! 

 

And the NFLPA will have no say as to who the new Commish will be (in 2025 or whenever); that's not part of the CBA. That's up to the owners, and they don't seem to see a problem, apparently.

 

And I wonder if certain people would feel the same way if the eye black patches were Black Lives Matter or some other less "lovable" issue.

Chances to bash Goodell are wide and many. This is just more fuel for the fire he's created.

Quote:So strict that Williams was fined for the same customized eye black that he has worn for years. Williams has made repeated attempts to wear a couple specific pink items to support breast cancer and honor his mother who just passed from breast cancer. He was ultimately fined because he dared to put "Find the Cure" on his eye black, again, the same personalized eye black he's worn for years.

 

I find it laughable that a multibillion dollar industry is fining players for wanting to support a cause, particularly when they have gone out of their way to document what they were doing, and why.

 

fine someone for honoring his mother, suspend brady for something you have no proof of..... sure, but there is no consistency or presidence set for most of these things. goodell just does whatever he wants. 

 

a pity that an nfl player should have a light shined on him for doing something in good spirits instead of being arrested like so many other players in the league. 

The NFL never cared about breast cancer...  People buy a special pink jersey.  Vast majority of sale goes to NFL.  Small percentage of sale goes to cancer awareness charities.  Smaller percent actually makes an impact.

 

Link to pretty good if old summary.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/small-amo...ch-2013-10

 

Edit:  William's approach does not give the NFL an avenue to make money so they have no interest in supporting him. 

I'll just throw this out there as another possibility.

 

As far as I know, and I could be dead wrong about this, fines such as this enforced by the NFL go to charity.

 

Williams knows this, and knows that he will be fined for violating the policy but does it purposely as a way to "donate" to charity.  At the same time the media covers it bringing more attention to Breast Cancer Awareness.

 

I would say that it's probably a "win-win" situation that people don't realize right off the bat without "reading between the lines".

I think it's funny that people get mad at the NFL about this.  The NFL has a set of rules, the players know about the rules, the players need to follow the rules.  If you don't stay within those rules, you are going to get fined.  There are now players intentionally breaking the rules.

 

They deserve to get fined!

 

Just because everyone thinks their message is positive doesn't go away from the fact that they are breaking the rules!

The line must be drawn somewhere. This is a silly discussion, exactly how does eye black encourage awareness of breast cancer?