Jacksonville Jaguars Fan Forums

I agree The_Anchorman if GM Dave Caldwell fires Gus Bradley and makes Marrone the interm HC for example during the Bye as to not be a huge distraction (any more than possible), and then hires a good HC like Jim Harbaugh (former 49ers HC and Michigan's HC) you know one that everyone could agree is good and has the ability to make this team great & not just a guy who if given a shot might be great (the only coordinators that I would be okay with is Falcons OC Kyle or Titans DC Dick).

 

If he continues with Gus going into year four I will probably lose my voice from screaming so often...

Quote:Not if QBs are throwing quickly. The Jaguars are extremely vulnerable in the short passing game. The underneath stuff is killing us. We are supposed to be an excellent man coverage defense.

 

I never heard that of the Jaguars Defense in fact this game against the Texans there was talk of playing more man coverage but the Jaguars mainly play Zone.

Until the Jags start playing more aggressively on D, start getting more pressure with the front seven, and start running the ball more effectively to eat up some clock the DB's' will continue to look worse than they are IMO


Note: Yes, the Jags need another starting corner...opposite House


If Blake is throwing the ball more than around 33 times he's throwing it too much IMO

The lack of running game and playing from behind partly due to the Defense letting up so many points could be why Blake is throwing so much, but part of that is maybe OC Olson's fault or Bradleys.


I mean watching the games I'm not so worried about the One Dimensional passing Offense as i am about the Jaguars not being able to stop other teams from passing all over them.

We can talk till the cows come home about why we are so bad but its all on Bradleys head.


I knew the offense would only go as far as Bortles could take it but who had any idea the defense would be this bad under Bradley at this stage??


I certainly didn't ,my worst case scenario for the rebuild would be that Bortles would struggle a bit but our strong defense would help him out.


I don't care if the stats don't back it up but this is the worst defense I've ever seen us have,bar none.

That is what really bothers me, because I have always wanted a Defensive minded Head Coach.  I love watching a strong hard hitting stout defensive team, stop the run & run the ball owning the clock on offense - old school style...

 

That is what the Jaguars always kind of did well from Coughlin, Jack Del Rio, and then ... the owner changed..

 

JDR was let go right as that started to happen, Mularkey came in still not sure why you would fire JDR for him but whatever he lasted one year & GM Dave Caldwell said it was time to go in a different direction but he let Gus go on for three years with a worse record than Mularkey had so what's up with that?


The Defense shouldnt be the leagues worst every year for three years under a defensive minded head coach.. and Marks was back in this game.. poz was back, house was back. i mean other than Fowler he had almost everyone back & playing that he wanted from the off season... so why did the Texans Hoyer look like Tom Brady?

Quote:I just looked at the NFL.com stats. Poz is the only Jag listed with even one PD, so that can't be correct. I think the problem is that only players with INTs are listed there. In the general (sortable) DB stats anyone without an INT has only "---" for PD and several other columns.


 

I still say the biggest problem is a lack of pass rush, and that goes back to coaching. When the Jags blitzed Hoyer today he wasn't very successful. There was no excuse in not blitzing rookie Winston or fossil Hasselbeck, and that was 100% on the coaching staff.

 

I am sorry ... correction.. .House has 7 PDs

 

you are right found it here

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te...x/2015.htm

 

still the rest of the DBs only have 1 or less...

I remember ProFootballFocus review prior to the start of the season of the Offense & Defense I wonder how many people felt that they were way off in their grades of our players?

Quote:"It's built"

 

So was the Titanic and it ended up sinking.

Quote:I hear this critique of Caldwell often here in the Jungle.  Let's face it, when hiring a 1st time HC, no matter how much actualy research on that person you do, it's a crap shoot because you have no empirical data to formulate your opinion. 

 

Now, don't take this as I'm calling you out, because it is not what I'm doing...  But you must remember back 3 years ago when the hiring process was going on.  Bradley was one of the top HC hiring prospects of the time.  3 years ago, if you remember, going after a successfull Coordinator that may not have HC experience was all the rage.  The entire league was hiring inexperienced OCs and DCs during that period.  3 years ago, the concept of hiring a "retread" HC was not in vogue.

 

This is important to realize, because it's not as though there were any other coaches that were hired 3 years ago that are really lighting the world on fire right now are there?  Just checked, Bruce Arians is the only HC from that period who's killing it now.  Chip Kelley, and Chudzinsky were also in that class.  

 

Again, Bradley was one of the top candidates for multiple teams that year.  On top of that, there is a legit arguement to be made that an ice cream cone type coach is what we needed the first 2 years of this major rebuild.  If only Gus actually grew into this HC position as the team's talent got better, we wouldn't be having this arguement.

 

But the reality is the reality.  Gus was/is a good rah rah HC that kept this team's head up.  But he never advanced beyond that.  Caldwell made a hire in Gus that at the time was not panned by the league.  Matter of fact, he was considered an OK pick.

 

The thing that could indict Caldwell is if he keeps Gus beyond Tuesday after Week 17's game.  The other thing is that Caldwell needs to hire a world class head coach to take this team to the next level.  If those 2 things don't happen, then yeah, Caldwell's in trouble.

 

Well said. I agree nobody can really argue the Bradley hire at the time. He was the hot DC on one of the hot teams and he was a positive guy and this was going to be a full rebuild. Nothing wrong with the hire at that time.

 

Now jump start 3 years later and here we are. Gus is 8-30 as a HC and has lost to some of the worst teams in the NFL, teams with rookie QBs, teams with back up QBs and teams with 40 yr old QBs who haven't taken a meaningful snap in years.

 

Gus is an equal opportunity LOSER. After watching the Gus bus drive this team for 38 games, I am actually surprised that he was able to find 8 wins in there. There's a reason that head coaches are fired when the lose to the Badley lead Jags.

 

The big question now is: how much longer will Gus remain the HC if the Jags just keep on losing like they are?

 

Dave will be forced to make a decision on Gus at some point and at this time Gus is making the decision easy for him.

 

Does anyone know how much longer Gus in under contract with the Jags?

Bradley has a four-year contract with the Jaguars, joining general manager Dave Caldwell, who received a five-year deal in the week prior. - 2013

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../74255256/

 

According to USA Today Gus Bradley is #1 in the hot seat among coaches that might be fired...

 

NFL.com ranked the team at 32 but can you blame them? 


The owner needs fire Gus.

Quote:A pass rush from the front 4 and LBs that can cover would help the DBs.  Jags get zero pass rush from the front 4.

 

 

^^^this.


 

The Jaguars CBs are pretty good. You could straight up swap them out with CBs on several other teams and the result would be an improvement. It's not them... it's virtually everyone else. The DL has been crap without Sen'Derrick and the pass rush seems to have disappeared from last year. The LBs are ok vs the run and would look better behind a decent DL, but can't cover or rush the passer. The Safeties are horrible.

Quote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../74255256/

 

According to USA Today Gus Bradley is #1 in the hot seat among coaches that might be fired...

 

NFL.com ranked the team at 32 but can you blame them? 


The owner needs fire Gus.

 

After watching all the games this season, I think 32 is still too high.

Quote:I'd have to watch a Seattle game to figure it out...  But to me, I find it hard to believe that Seattle just plays cover 3 and rushes 4 the vast majority of the game the way we do.  But who knows, I could be wrong. 

 

If I am wrong, then I'm not sure what the heck is wrong with our D.

I think its a combination of things

Jags get zero pass rush from the front 4.

Quote:It's hard to make plays when you're sitting in a zone all the time...  I mean, it's just hard when your not playing man to man and blitzing or getting pressure on the QB.

 

When the QB has time to pick apart a zone, sheesh, forget it.  It's just to easy for an NFL QB.

I suppose a zone would work if...

a. you are able to actually get pressure on the quarterback on a consistent basis with only four rushing. We don't.

b. you have world class corners and safeties who have the speed and 'savvy' to do their job in this scheme. We don't.

c. you have defensive players of whom most are consistent tacklers and not in the habit of taking 'bad angles'. We don't.

d. you have a defense who's key players aren't riddled with injuries. Ours is.

e. you never have to face an experienced (or even a good rookie) NFL QB. A good quarterback will pick a zone (like ours) apart. They do.

 

Of course, the argument is that if we drop one or two out of coverage and send them on a blitz and the blitz doesn't get home in time, the opponent will likely make a big play.

 

So our issue(s) seem to be that we don't have the talent up front to consistently get enough pressure on the QB to make a difference and we also lack talent in our secondary (most of our guys wouldn't be starters on other NFL teams) to cover well. In addition, we struggle with fundamental football skills like tackling.

 

In short, we don't have the personnel to run a good zone defense and we get burned all too easily because of it over and over. Just watch how easily our opponents convert third down situations; even third and long situations! Among other words, we've helped our offense get better personnel at the cost of not getting better defensive players; although admittedly, Fowler was supposed to be 'that guy' but he didn't last 10 minutes in practice. Great.

 

So we are what we are; our offense is better this season but not good enough to compensate for a defense who has too many scrubs on it. We just don't have the quality depth that we wish we had to compensate when season ending injuries occur. Actually, that's also true on our offense too as we're seeing with our running back situation now.

 

The way things are at this time it would be hard to pick the Jags to win any more games this season. We've already blown our best chances at victories in our schedule. But as a 'tip of the hat' to the 'on any Sunday' philosophy, I'll say we 'might' win one more game somewhere. Doing so will be viewed as an upset victory by the Jags if it takes place. And the losing coach's job will almost certainly be in jeopardy as a result of losing to us.

 

So I'm about ready to say let's write off this season (again) and lets look at what we can get if we have the 1st pick. By the way, getting that 1st pick will require that we not go out and squander the opportunity (as we've done in the past) by winning meaningless end of season games which would take us out of getting that pick. The 'we should try to win every game' crowd needs to just shut up. That way of thinking is part of the reason we're in the situation we're in right now! 

 

If the season is lost (and only a teal tea drinking, apologist, denier of reality thinks it isn't) then let's make the moves to secure a better future. We don't even have to argue about 'tanking' because we suck so bad that trying to lose is a mute point.

Quote:The way things are at this time it would be hard to pick the Jags to when any more games this season. We've already blown our best chances at victories in our schedule. But as a 'tip of the hat' to the 'on any Sunday' philosophy, I'll say we 'might' win one more game somewhere. Doing so will be viewed as an upset victory by the Jags if it takes place. And the losing coach's job will almost certainly be in jeopardy as a result of losing to us.

 

 

Now that Sen'Derrick is back having got his feet wet for the first time last week, there's a chance the defense might be able to tighten up and play like they're capable of playing. The offense is already playing well enough to when a few more games should that happen. :thumbsup:<strong>
</strong>

Quote:Jags get zero pass rush from the front 4.

And it took our HC 6 games to see that.....

The defense is simple and only takes 2Qs to beat.  The first set of sideline images and the lack of adjustments because the players can't deviate from the drilled in to their heads game plan and it is solved.

 

Very young and inexperienced team produces basic game plans that are easy for every team with half a brain to adjust and beat.  At the end of the day the Jaguars are putting themselves into a mode that requires "perfect execution".