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Quote:NFL vs NFL Europe Reborn..

No thank you. The NFL Europe sucked. 

Quote:Agreed, D6. It would take that, at a minimum, to get the NFLPA to add game in my opinion.


I think the length of the preseason might be looked at too.


I wish they would look at adding more contact practice time, as it used to be, and shorten the preseason.


I can't help but think the seemingly higher number of injuries might be a reflection of reduced practice and contact in practice.

 

 Scarecrow,  adding to what you said,   I believe that the reduced practice time is also contributing to the problems many teams are having on their Offensive Lines.  That's putting more and more QBs at risk for injury. 

 

  If the NFL continues to lose starting QBs to injury,   that might lead to both the NFL and NFLPA increasing practice time in the off-season and having less restrictions in training camp.

Quote:I feel this is the best approach as well. They should also reduce the preseason to two games and increase the number of joint practices/scrimmages between neighboring non-conference teams. This would be an additional concession to the NFLPA (and quite frankly to season ticket holders as well) in exchange for the additional regular season game.


This could lead to 4, maybe more, international neutral site cities (London, Berlin, Mexico City and Tokyo come to mind as they have all hosted preseason games in the past I believe) that would each host 4 games (or less if there are more than 4 neutral sites) which would total 16 neutral site games which would cover all 32 teams.


Whenever the topic of neutral site games gets brought up on NFL media outlets like SiriusXM radio, I'm always a little shocked this broader view doesn't get much traction or even get discussed at all.

 

  I like the foundation of what you mentioned.  

 

 One concern though is the travel time to Tokyo.   In the regular season,  that would even be more pronounced.   That much more for teams in the Eastern and even Central Time Zones. 

 

  I gladly admit one of my motivations for this type of plan is it would lessen the chances of playoff expansion.   W/o an increase in the regular season games,  I have little hope about the playoffs remaining the way they currently are.

Quote:I like the foundation of what you mentioned.


One concern though is the travel time to Tokyo. In the regular season, that would even be more pronounced. That much more for teams in the Eastern and even Central Time Zones.


I gladly admit one of my motivations for this type of plan is it would lessen the chances of playoff expansion. W/o an increase in the regular season games, I have little hope about the playoffs remaining the way they currently are.

Well I've thought about this as well. There was a time when each team had two byes each season. If the league ever went to a 17 or even 18 game regular season, there would be good reason to revive the idea of a second bye for each team. Then a team traveling overseas could have their overseas game scheduled around a bye and/or a thursday night matchup. For instance, a team could have a Thursday night matchup, then get on a plane on Friday or Saturday to their international destination like Tokyo. Then they have their international game the following Sunday then come back and have a bye the next week. The few times I've been overseas, it's always taken me 2 or 3 days to get adjusted to the new timezone and 2 or 3 to get adjusted when I get back home. I imagine it's the same for most though I could be wrong. If the above scenario happened early in the season for a team, having a second bye later in the season wouldn't necessarily put undue stress on a roster for the rest of a long season.

Quote:Well I've thought about this as well. There was a time when each team had two byes each season. If the league ever went to a 17 or even 18 game regular season, there would be good reason to revive the idea of a second bye for each team. Then a team traveling overseas could have their overseas game scheduled around a bye and/or a thursday night matchup. For instance, a team could have a Thursday night matchup, then get on a plane on Friday or Saturday to their international destination like Tokyo. Then they have their international game the following Sunday then come back and have a bye the next week. The few times I've been overseas, it's always taken me 2 or 3 days to get adjusted to the new timezone and 2 or 3 to get adjusted when I get back home. I imagine it's the same for most though I could be wrong. If the above scenario happened early in the season for a team, having a second bye later in the season wouldn't necessarily put undue stress on a roster for the rest of a long season.

 

  Though I like you suggestion,  the greatest obstacle appears to be the Sunday Afternoon TV Networks that are NFL broadcast partners.  Back when they had 2 byes per season,  the networks complained that there weren't enough good games available to them in many given weeks.   With the money FOX and CBS is paying for the rights to televise NFL games,  they have major influence in NFL scheduling decisions.

Quote:I'm sure you've compiled mounds of "evidence" for how we couldn't possibly have gone to the moon as well, but in this instance it's about the money. Always has been, always will be. There's more room for growth of the game internationally than there is at home. It's that simple.


I'm sure methods and speed of travel will develop over time, but to insinuate that some new, about to be released technology that is being hidden from the public and is capable of transporting approximately 50 players plus coaches and support personnel faster than a traditional airline and, on top of that, that this is what's driving NFL international expansion is laughable. Actually this technology already exists but disappeared because it isn't economically viable. It was called the Concorde. If it was coming back, we'd hear about it. No need for a conspiracy theory.


Honestly guy... which is more likely?


a)The NFL sees virtually untapped markets it wants to exploit and can already do so with present air travel technology or

b)super secret, classified and redacted, Area 51 tech is about to drop on us that will revolutionize travel and the NFL owners already know about it.


One of the above is observed in business all the time, the other requires "stretching" the imagination.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.businessinsider.com/airbus-just-patented-a-jet-that-can-fly-from-london-to-new-york-in-1-hour-2015-7'>http://www.businessinsider.com/airbus-just-patented-a-jet-that-can-fly-from-london-to-new-york-in-1-hour-2015-7</a>


in regards to the upper comment: why would believing one thing or knowing something mean you lump it with other theories? Everything g is unto itself.

But the above link proves I am right in this instance

Quote:Nfl owners are billionaire lawyers. They have influence and connections to government etc.
Maybe they are pushing other country teams because they already know about a safe form of faster travel that's being developed.

That's not a stretch to believe at this point in history

 

 

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.businessinsider.com/airbus-just-patented-a-jet-that-can-fly-from-london-to-new-york-in-1-hour-2015-7'>http://www.businessinsider.com/airbus-just-patented-a-jet-that-can-fly-from-london-to-new-york-in-1-hour-2015-7</a>


in regards to the upper comment: why would believing one thing or knowing something mean you lump it with other theories? Everything g is unto itself.

But the above link proves I am right in this instance

 

You again? 

 

You're initial supposition was that some new, hidden travel technology is driving NFL international expansion.  Not only is this beyond absurd (hint: It's about the money, current travel technology is already sufficient), even your linked article doesn't support it.  I assume you read the whole thing, right?  They patented a design for a 20 person supersonic jet...  20 person.  Let that sink in.  There's 48 players active on game day.  There's 27 coaches and support staff listed on Jaguars.com that would travel as well.  You'd need 4 separate planes, or one plane to make 4 trips for the bare minimum of people that would need to travel. This isn't a feasible mode of transportation for anyone in the league but NFL owners and their guests for the foreseeable future.  I'm sure supersonic 100+ passenger transatlantic planes will the norm one day, but your supposition was that this is right around the corner and that it is or could be driving NFL international expansion...   If that's the case, why didn't the NFL expand overseas when the Concorde was still in service?


 

The second to last line in the article is interesting as well: "As with most patented ideas, it's unlikely the jet will ever enter production."   
But this is the proof right?  

 

You could have easily clarified your original statement instead of pretending you didn't say it.  Just admit you have no idea about economics or business and lets move on.  I mean, this really isn't hard to understand.

I didn't say anything about anything

hidden or about anything driving anything.

I said something would make it realistically possible and that's what's happening.


What are you denying or trying to argue? You said it wouldn't or couldn't happen and this is an example of it being entirely possible.

If you want argue that government and the wealthy don't have access to this info early on that would also be a mistake on your part.

Quote:I didn't say anything about anything

hidden or about anything driving anything.

I said something would make it realistically possible and that's what's happening.


What are you denying or trying to argue? You said it wouldn't or couldn't happen and this is an example of it being entirely possible.

If you want argue that government and the wealthy don't have access to this info early on that would also be a mistake on your part.

 

Oh lord...  I'm not doing this.  I'd highly recommend that you take a reading comprehension class, sir.  Good day!

Quote:Oh lord...  I'm not doing this.  I'd highly recommend that you take a reading comprehension class, sir.  Good day!

My comprehensive abilities are quite extensive.

Money can't drive anything if the ability to do something isn't present.

They can't have a league team in Europe at the present rate of travel time.it would be too taxing on everyone. This makes it more feasible.

You are just being a pretentious pseudo intellectual smart [BLEEP] making it more difficult than need be.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy,it is happening. You pointing out it said only 20 is pointless. You can naturally assume that will expand. The Concorde was an earlier design "in the past".

None of that is the same as the present rate of travel and again,the way it is now,no one would want to do twice a week.

I can see 2 steps ahead while it is your comprehension that is lacking.

How is it a conspiracy that the rich and powerful know and utilize things well in advance of public knowledge? That's a reality of life

Quote:Oh lord...  I'm not doing this.  I'd highly recommend that you take a reading comprehension class, sir.  Good day!

  

Quote:My comprehensive abilities are quite extensive.

Money can't drive anything if the ability to do something isn't present.

They can't have a league team in Europe at the present rate of travel time.it would be too taxing on everyone. This makes it more feasible.

You are just being a pretentious pseudo intellectual smart [BAD WORD REMOVED] making it more difficult than need be.

I said good day sir!

Quote:I said good day sir!