Jacksonville Jaguars Fan Forums

Full Version: Russian parliament unanimously approves use of military in Syria to fight ISIS
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2
The upper chamber of the Russian parliament has unanimously given a formal consent to President Putin to use the nation’s military in Syria to fight terrorism at a request from the Syrian President Bashar Assad.
Consent was necessary for use of the country's military for foreign combat missions under the Russian constitution.

 

The request for use of force was sent by the president after considering the large number of citizens of Russia and neighboring countries, who went to join terrorist groups fighting in Syria, head of the presidential administration Sergey Ivanov told media. There are thousands of them, and Russia’s national security would be under threat, should they return home, he added.

 

“This is not about reaching for some foreign policy goals, satisfying ambitions, which our Western partners regularly accuse us of. It’s only about the national interest of the Russian Federation,” the official said.

 

Ivanov stressed that no ground operations are planned in Syria. Russia would use its warplanes to hit terrorist targets when requested by the Syrian government. He stressed that unlike the US-led coalition of countries that bombs militant troops in Syria, Russia was invited to do so by the legal authorities of Syria and thus follows international law.

 

“The military goal of the operation is strictly to provide air support for the [Syrian] government forces in their fight against Islamic State,” he said.

 

The bombing campaign is time-limited, Ivanov said, not revealing a clear deadline for it. He said he was not authorized to disclose details of the operation such as the number of warplanes involved.

 

... http://www.rt.com/news/317013-parliament...ps-abroad/

 

----

 

Something tells me Obama won't like Russia aiding Syria in attacking American-armed terror group ISIS. Just a hunch.

 

Now begins Cold War Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Obama is a coward.... he doesn't have the intestinal or the testicular fortitude to do anything about this

Quote:Obama is a coward.... he doesn't have the intestinal or the testicular fortitude to do anything about this
 

Obama does what his Masters tell him to do.  And the last thing they want is for Obama to interfere with ISIS. 
This is getting ugly very quickly.  Putin has no respect for President Obama or the U.S., and is going to do whatever he wants.  Russia was demanding that the U.S. stop flying over Syria while they (Russia) were conducting air strikes.  This is going to get ugly before it gets better.

Good for them now we can just pack up and go home. Shoot let Russia deal with ISIS why the hell do we need to be there?
Wait, if the US leaves, where will ISIS get their M198 Howitzers and brand new Toyota trucks?  How will ISIS get their satellite images if we don't provide them?  They have no space program.  Who will help them with their Hollywood-style special effects on the beheading videos?  And what about my subscription to Dabiq?  Who will provide the high-quality glossy printing service now that the US is leaving?  The Russians are no good at this stuff. 

Quote:Good for them now we can just pack up and go home. Shoot let Russia deal with ISIS why the hell do we need to be there?
 

Do you really want Russia and Iran to be the region's most powerful forces? Especially if they are working together?
Quote:Obama is a coward.... he doesn't have the intestinal or the testicular fortitude to do anything about this
 

lol ... love the cliche of the internet tough guy. I'm sure you're a real man. Now, back to those fake web sites.
Quote:lol ... love the cliche of the internet tough guy. I'm sure you're a real man. Now, back to those fake web sites.
 

I don't think he's a coward, I think he's perfectly content with America stepping down as leader of the free world.
Quote:Do you really want Russia and Iran to be the region's most powerful forces? Especially if they are working together?
 

 

Not necessarily, but we certainly don't want ISIS to be a force there. I'm thinking the U.S. should stand back and let them take care of ISIS while working toward policy to ensure the safety of Israel in the aftermath.

Quote:Not necessarily, but we certainly don't want ISIS to be a force there. I'm thinking the U.S. should stand back and let them take care of ISIS while working toward policy to ensure the safety of Israel in the aftermath.
 

News today says that Russia isn't attacking ISIS, but are attacking the secular rebel groups. If true its terrible news.
Quote:Do you really want Russia and Iran to be the region's most powerful forces? Especially if they are working together?


Chalk it up under the not my problem column. Let Russia spend the next three decades trying to "control" the region, they can have the IED, assassinations, coops and suicide bombings hell they can even have all the oil. In the mean time we come home defend our southen border being invaded, invest in alternative energy and drill the hell out of our natural resources. Bet we'd end up better off in the end.
Except Russia is only saying they are fighting ISIS and actually attacking the Syrian rebels who are fighting against Assad.  They haven't launched a rocket anywhere near ISIS.

Quote:Chalk it up under the not my problem column. Let Russia spend the next three decades trying to "control" the region, they can have the IED, assassinations, coops and suicide bombings hell they can even have all the oil. In the mean time we come home defend our southen border being invaded, invest in alternative energy and drill the hell out of our natural resources. Bet we'd end up better off in the end.
 

Yeah, and Japan was only China's problem too. And Hitler only wanted a little piece of Czechoslovakia. And Stalin really did need to keep Poland.

 

All those were in the "Not My Problem" category.

 

Right up until they weren't.

 

So really, let's not oppose expansionist Russia's move to control the world's chief supply of fuel. Nothing bad will come of that at all.
The target is on Syria's back because the Gulf States want a pipeline through Syria so they can more easily sell to Europe.  Of course, Russia is currently selling a lot of oil and gas to Europe, and has an interest in maintaining that.

Quote:Yeah, and Japan was only China's problem too. And Hitler only wanted a little piece of Czechoslovakia. And Stalin really did need to keep Poland.


All those were in the "Not My Problem" category.


Right up until they weren't.


So really, let's not oppose expansionist Russia's move to control the world's chief supply of fuel. Nothing bad will come of that at all.


You don't think the Arabs will blow up Russian occupying forces the same way they've done ours?


Trying to control the Middle East has destroyed nation after nation after empire after empire.


Besides Russia bombing ISIS or Syrian rebels to support an already established regime isn't the same as invading another nation (like they did in ukrain that's a different problem).


Russia is there at the request of the Syrian government why the hell are we there?


Let Russia hold the hot potatoe
Quote:You don't think the Arabs will blow up Russian occupying forces the same way they've done ours?


Trying to control the Middle East has destroyed nation after nation after empire after empire.


Besides Russia bombing ISIS or Syrian rebels to support an already established regime isn't the same as invading another nation (like they did in ukrain that's a different problem).


Russia is there at the request of the Syrian government why the hell are we there?


Let Russia hold the hot potatoe
 

I agree with a lot of what you say about this.  Putin sees himself as some sort of grand strategist.   So when he sees a power vacuum he goes for it.   In this case, that is a huge mistake.   They are getting involved in a colossal quagmire.   It won't be long before jihadists are blowing themselves up on the streets of Moscow, and the Russians will be faced with the same bad choices that have confronted other outside actors in that region.  Go all in, at a huge risk, or withdraw, and admit that you wasted your resources.   The smartest thing he can do is to say, this was a limited operation, it was a success, and now we are finished. 
The US has enjoyed exploiting that Middle East power vacuum for many years.  The Iraqi "surge" provided the blueprint for the mercenary armies which became ISIS.  The "surge" was a plan to pay the Iraqi warlords who were hijacking and destroying our supply train.  That worked so well we decided to arm the Sunni fighters to take out Assad. 

 

Putin exposed the fraud.  He has no intention of "occupying" the Middle East.  He's just wiping out the ISIS/Toyota army the US created. 

Guest

Quote:Do you really want Russia and Iran to be the region's most powerful forces? Especially if they are working together?
Why would ISIS join forces with Iran? Iran is Shia, and ISIS is predominately Sunni. They both have completely different geopolitical aims. I think if you were to say: "ISIS is working together with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and oil barons in the Middle East." that would be a very accurate statement.
Quote:Why would ISIS join forces with Iran? Iran is Shia, and ISIS is predominately Sunni. They both have completely different geopolitical aims. I think if you were to say: "ISIS is working together with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and oil barons in the Middle East." that would be a very accurate statement.
 

Iran and Russia will destroy ISIS, take Iraq, cower Assad into submission and then the Kingdom falls. People forget that 18th and 19th century colonialism worked in the Middle East, we're going to permit it to happen again.
Pages: 1 2