Lee's only injury in college was a sprained MCL. He's pulled his hamstring twice in the NFL and sprained his ankle the end of last year's camp.
He did not have injury problems in college, he got hurt once.
This whole thing is overblown and he'll be fine.
Hope he comes back strong and proves that he is worth being on this team.
Quote:Exactly drama queen.
At least you'll admit it. That's the first step...
Quote:At least you'll admit it. That's the first step...
There's no need to admit anything.
You posted your dramatic take for everyone to see.
Pretty sure nobody said to cut the guy. We're fans that know he is talented and want him to show it on the field. It's frustrating watching the other guys progress without him.
Anyways... Not sure if this has been mentioned around here, but definitely interesting technology that the Jags are using to help eliminate hamstring injuries.
http://www.sporttechie.com/2015/03/31/th...-injuries/
Quote:I know, we should've cut Fragile Fred way sooner than we did.
Interestingly, I was just thinking about FT's rookie season as I read this thread. For those of you able to recall, Fred earned this nickname as a rookie. He only missed one game that year, but that's largely a credit to his ability to heal quickly when young. Just about every other week Fred would get hurt during a game, miss most of the following week's practice, and then be ready to go come gametime. The Jaguars managed his injuries well allowing him to start most weeks, and that paid huge dividends with him recording 14 TDs in 12 starts and 15 games played.
Quote:No way can you compare him to Jimmy Smith (at this point). He can't stay on the field and when he is out there, hasn't produced much to speak of.
Pretty much the road that it looks like he's going down. I don't like it, and I hope that I'm wrong, but it's looking like this might be the first bust by Caldwell.
I don't think he was comparing Lee to Jimmy. He was just pointing out that Jimmy had a very similar start to his carreer.
Quote:Hamstring injuries frequently keep coming back. Remember Fu?
Jimmy Smith had a broken leg and appendicitis. Unless your name is Leftwich, you probably won't continue to have broken legs. And I have never heard of anyone having to have their appendix removed more than once (although I'm sure someone somewhere must have).
Jimmy's appendicitis happened later on with the Jaguars. He was talking about how his injuries over his first two years with the Cowboys kept him off the field. Jimmy played in seven games as a rookie, and then zero games in year two. The Cowboys cut him after his second season, but Coughlin remembered how great the WR was in college and picked him up. The rest is history.
As for Fu... I liked him. Dude could come in off the bench cold and pick up an automatic five yards any time you needed it.
Quote:I don't think anyone is comparing the player but more so focusing on the fact that the guy was drafted with the knowledge of him having injuries. The guy was a top ten pick prior to the injuries. Caldwell very well may have taken him thinking to cash in on a year or two of building his body and working through rehabs.
We are using Jimmy to make the point that sometimes you have to be patient with some guys because they may actually get it together and become a good player. This team is not that great to move on from a guy that is having some injuries early in his career. Bringing him along slowly may pay huge dividends for us in the future. Hell maybe even this year.
Could he be a bust, sure but I like to give a guy their full three years before I determine what path they will go.
^^^^ I should have just said, "THIS." :yes:
You guys mention Jimmy Smith as a reason why Lee could turn the corner. That doesn't help us if he follows Smith's career. He'll turn in his best seasons on another team. Was the cowboys wrong to release Smith after so many seasons of injuries? Absolutely not. Smith turned it around but you simply cannot bet that will happen everytime.
If Lee has a rough 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year regarding injuries, Hes out. Maybe he gets it together with another team or maybe he doesn't.
As such, I really HOPE he isn't the next Jimmy Smith. Also, Caldwell didn't screw up the pick. He had a top 10 receiver available to him in the 2nd round. Id take that gamble any day of the week and even still would knowing the future up to this point.
I don't think he really wants to play but loves the NFL lifestyle and money. All of you who are frustrated waiting on him to get on the field to produce may be waiting a gutless football player. We'll see in due time.
Quote:You guys mention Jimmy Smith as a reason why Lee could turn the corner. That doesn't help us if he follows Smith's career. He'll turn in his best seasons on another team. Was the cowboys wrong to release Smith after so many seasons of injuries? Absolutely not. Smith turned it around but you simply cannot bet that will happen everytime.
His going to another team ultimately was a decision by the Cowboys GM. They certainly could have been more patient with him, and if they were one could only imagine the results. The Cowboys released Jimmy after the '93 season while he was still under contract as a first round pick. Had they simply been more patient, they could have had a perennial pro bowler on their roster for a decade to come. The Cowboys won Super Bowl XXX in '95 while Jimmy was just starting to be noticed with the Jaguars, but in more than a decade to follow they only won their division twice and they've never won the NFC conference title since. Jimmy just might have drastically altered their future, and all it would have taken was a little more patience with their first round pick.
Quote:Jimmy's appendicitis happened later on with the Jaguars. He was talking about how his injuries over his first two years with the Cowboys kept him off the field. Jimmy played in seven games as a rookie, and then zero games in year two. The Cowboys cut him after his second season, but Coughlin remembered how great the WR was in college and picked him up. The rest is history.
As for Fu... I liked him. Dude could come in off the bench cold and pick up an automatic five yards any time you needed it.
His appendicitis was with Dallas. You should have checked out Wiki before you posted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Smit..._receiver)
I guess I'll have to say it again, but Lee was never going to be a top 10 pick. He was simply the WR version of Matt Barkley (who would have gone #1 overall if he left the draft early too...yeah right). Silly media jumps on big school and crazy stats before doing any evaluation.
Lee isn't big, isn't fast, has bad and very uncoordinated hands, and had an injury history. His one plus trait is good short area quickness, and that plus college production shouldn't have been nearly enough to take him early 2nd combined with everything else being negative. It was laughable that he went ahead of Jordan Matthews, Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, Cody Latimer, and Jarvis Landry (not to mention plenty of other 3rd round and later WRs)...and that's before looking at hindsight. It looks even worse since, obviously. Imagine if we had Arob paired with one of them...man.
One of them = Hurns.
Was our blessing in disguise for Lee, and all the previous misses.
It'll get better mate
And we didn't need to use even a 7th for him. #TrueGift
I think Hurns paired with Robinson is pretty good.
Quote:His appendicitis was with Dallas. You should have checked out Wiki before you posted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Smit..._receiver)
I guess I should have. I just figured his appendicitis must have been the injury he had during Coughlin's final years when Tom actually went to the hospital to be by his side. It was some kind of abdominal surgery issue as I recall. That happening in Dallas is even more reason to be more patient with him as indeed the organ is only removed once. It's not really fair to say an appendectomy counts against one's injury history since it's not exactly repeatable.
Quote:I guess I should have. I just figured his appendicitis must have been the injury he had during Coughlin's final years when Tom actually went to the hospital to be by his side. It was some kind of abdominal surgery issue as I recall. That happening in Dallas is even more reason to be more patient with him as indeed the organ is only removed once. It's not really fair to say an appendectomy counts against one's injury history since it's not exactly repeatable.
Just because one or two guys in our history have come back and played great from injuries doesn't mean every injury plagued guy will come back and be great. MSW and Derek Cox had injury issues and where are they now? People on here love comparing every injured player to Smith and Taylor. Yet, still no star on this team who overcame injuries.