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Quote:Dangerous [BAD WORD REMOVED] Antarctica
 

If you see Antarctica on that map I need you to share whatever you're smoking...
Quote:Ah. It's all the blacks faults that statistical anamolies are on the news near daily.
 

No, but if it bleeds it leads. 
Quote:I don't think Australians are as worried as you lot about defending themselves.


Government should fear the people not vice versa. That's why we have democracy.
 

So now that you're unarmed is the government afraid of you?
Quote:Ok...


This took a weird racial twist.
 

Welcome to America, where 13% of the population appears to be trying to genocide itself.
Quote:So now that you're unarmed is the government afraid of you?


Well seeing as we have had 3 different Prime Minister's in 3 years I would say they have to worry about how they are polling.


Also as pointed out many times no American government is scared by your guns, they have you rather out gunned if you go rogue.


Not to mention the Forces is made up of every day citizens. Would they come and shoot you on request from the government? I doubt Jagibelieve would come and shoot you just because he was told to.
Quote:Oh, you called me Nancy. Sick burn.


Well, if Siri converted your text to speech, she'd come up with Nancy.
Quote:Well, if Siri converted your text to speech, she'd come up with Nancy.
 

ok?
Quote:Well seeing as we have had 3 different Prime Minister's in 3 years I would say they have to worry about how they are polling.


Also as pointed out many times no American government is scared by your guns, they have you rather out gunned if you go rogue.


Not to mention the Forces is made up of every day citizens. Would they come and shoot you on request from the government? I doubt Jagibelieve would come and shoot you just because he was told to.
 

So they aren't scared of us because they have us outgunned by an armed force made up of people who wouldn't shoot us.  Huh
I'm surprised that nobody is bothered by the technology used to track down the shooter.

Quote:I'm surprised that nobody is bothered by the technology used to track down the shooter.
Oh, I'm extremely bothered by it, but it falls into the "plain sight" doctrine. The best argument I could see against it would be the possibility of false arrest or illegal detainment, but that'd be very quickly solved by the police officer saying, "You were going 66 in a 65, and I stopped you for your speed," which is more than enough for them to demand ID and verify whether the person driving is actually their target. The other argument would be that scanning a license plate and running it against a database is the equivalent of a suspicionless stop, but I believe courts have upheld "stop and frisk" in the past.

 

In short, yeah, it's scary, and so are facial recognition cameras on every street corner, but it doesn't appear that courts are in any way interested in taking them away from law enforcement.
Quote:Oh, I'm extremely bothered by it, but it falls into the "plain sight" doctrine. The best argument I could see against it would be the possibility of false arrest or illegal detainment, but that'd be very quickly solved by the police officer saying, "You were going 66 in a 65, and I stopped you for your speed," which is more than enough for them to demand ID and verify whether the person driving is actually their target. The other argument would be that scanning a license plate and running it against a database is the equivalent of a suspicionless stop, but I believe courts have upheld "stop and frisk" in the past.

 

In short, yeah, it's scary, and so are facial recognition cameras on every street corner, but it doesn't appear that courts are in any way interested in taking them away from law enforcement.
 

There isn't much talk about it on the news or even some of the blogs that I read daily.
Quote:There isn't much talk about it on the news or even some of the blogs that I read daily.
Probably because it's an accepted (unfortunately) part of life now?
Quote:There are previous mental health issues with almost all mass shooters. Va Tech, Sandy Hook, Aurora.


I understand that and I'll even say I think these psycho-pharmasuticals people are on have something to do with it as well. But the Charlestown shooting is a example of just an evil person committing an evil act. I think we try and rationalize evil as sick as if it's something that can be cured.
Quote:Probably because it's an accepted (unfortunately) part of life now?
 

I'm pretty geeky when it comes to technology, and somehow I missed that this was even possible.  People are worried about the internet and cell phones, but license plate readers?
Quote:I'm pretty geeky when it comes to technology, and somehow I missed that this was even possible.  People are worried about the internet and cell phones, but license plate readers?
The internet of things man. It's more than just good for humanity it makes tracking and spying on everyone and everything easily connected and collected. 
Quote:I'm pretty geeky when it comes to technology, and somehow I missed that this was even possible. People are worried about the internet and cell phones, but license plate readers?
It's very common technology for parking enforcement. They use it to identify vehicles that have delinquent tickets and boot them.
Quote:It's very common technology for parking enforcement. They use it to identify vehicles that have delinquent tickets and boot them.
 

The toll roads down in Miami all use license plate readers too. It is how they bill you now rather than going through a booth and paying for a ticket. It is extremely convenient, but also kind of telling.
Quote:It's very common technology for parking enforcement. They use it to identify vehicles that have delinquent tickets and boot them.
 

There's a show about the tow enforcement in Philly that use them.  Pretty interesting they can do that, but for a moving car that's pretty crazy technology.
Quote:The toll roads down in Miami all use license plate readers too. It is how they bill you now rather than going through a booth and paying for a ticket. It is extremely convenient, but also kind of telling.
This too, I almost forgot that that's what they use here in Denver if you don't have a transponder tag.
This thread is turning into something that could be a very good topic to discuss in it's own thread.  I do know that some people support the NSA and some are against it.  The same with The Patriot Act.

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