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Most 7 round picks never sniff the roster

I am very optimistic about Chris Smith this year. He showed in limited snaps big play ability a la Davis. If Davis and Smith emerge then Clemons or Branch become expendable when Fowler returns.

Storms days are coming to an end in Jacksonville I think. I'm very curious about Grant. I watched a lot of SEC games but I don't remember seeing much of Grant. Grand and Nick Marshall are too very intriguing prospects. I think Marshall could be a good DB but he needs a year or so to develope. Shame there is no farm system like in the MLB because I think with a few years of coaching Marshall could contribute to a team

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Why Tony Washington over the other guys?

 

 

Quote:Seems more like a shot in the dark than anything. 

 

 

I have no clue who Tony Washington is. That said, this pick was made before the most recent addition of Greg Jenkins who has a shot at being a return specialist. In any event, I'd expect the 6th WR or the 5th RB (it's likely one or the other) to be able to contribute as a return guy.

Quote:Scrolling down to the article about who will be starting..

Hood over Bennett in case Marks can't go week 1?

 

Not after the hype I've heard.

 

To the original article...

Washington over Sterling at WR?

Armbrister over George at LB?

 

huh?

 

 

I understand the Armbrister pick. Gus was practically gushing about the guy after the minicamp. Among the various UDFAs, he's among a select few on my radar.

Quote:My changes/thoughts....

 

I think Bernard Pierce makes it over Grant or Johnson.  Grant makes the PS.

 

If they keep 6 WRs, I think they keep the large upside in Sterling over a mediocre Washington.  Sterling will not last on the PS.

 

Ben Koyack over Nic Jacobs at TE.

 

With Poz aging and coming off injury, and extra ST coverage, I think they find a way to keep 6 LBs, favoring George to make the 53.

 

At CB, I favor the developing Rashaad Reynolds over the young Jeremy Harris. 

 

To make the extra roster space, I don't see them going with 5 safeties, putting Loston likely off the squad.

 

 

There is almost no chance Corey Grant lasts on the PS, so I see him making the roster especially if he flashes on STs.


 

You're pointing to some tough camp battles where it's hard to say. Nic Jacobs had some impressive moments where you wonder if he can step up and do more, so I don't know that I'm ready to just hand his spot to Koyack. That'll be fun to watch play out. Reynolds vs Harris is another battle, but I agree that Reynolds probably has the edge. I'm often hearing quips about his speed and potential while Harris seems to be just hanging around year after year. Nick Marshall is an intriguing rookie, but I see him as an ideal PS candidate.


 

As for the roster numbers on defense, it's a little tough trying to keep all 10 DLs, but who do you cut there? I agree it would be tough to not keep at least six of those LBs, but either the 5th S or the 10th DL will have to go to do so. If the cut the 5th S, I almost wonder if Evans is all that safe?

Quote:I don't see Chris Smith being cut this soon. He's the only lineman I've seen in awhile that can accurately predict the snap count

 

 

The DL is already heavy so you'd have to cut another DL to keep Smith. Who are you cutting? Branch? Alualu? Ziggy Hood?

Quote:Most 7 round picks never sniff the roster

 

 

Maybe this can use some more studying for proof, but I'd venture to say at least a majority of 7th round picks make their team's roster. Now back when the NFL had 33 rounds I could see where picks simply weren't making it. 

Quote:As for the roster numbers on defense, it's a little tough trying to keep all 10 DLs, but who do you cut there? I agree it would be tough to not keep at least six of those LBs, but either the 5th S or the 10th DL will have to go to do so. If the cut the 5th S, I almost wonder if Evans is all that safe?

I don't think there's any chance Evans is going anywhere this season. He has far too much experience in this scheme to just dump him this year. He is far better suited as a SS and if they absolutely got snake bitten at FS, he could jump back into the role and hold it down for the time needed.

 

I think we keep only 4 Safeties. Cyp, Evans, Sample and Brown. Loston is the odd man out and he definitely doesn't provide a bump in talent over Cyp or Evans at SS in my opinion. He's basically a Cyp clone with far less talent.

Please remember that we are a young team and some of these guys that need a year or two to develop will probably find their way to IR especially if they would not last on the Practice Squad. Just saying

Quote:Maybe this can use some more studying for proof, but I'd venture to say at least a majority of 7th round picks make their team's roster. Now back when the NFL had 33 rounds I could see where picks simply weren't making it. 

Looking at this right now. Last year there were 41 7th round picks. By my count five were injured (on IR or NFI). Of the remaining 36, 14 (39%) didn't make the active roster of the team they were drafted by. However last year was known for being a historically deep and strong draft, so maybe that's out of the ordinary. I'll look at 2013 as well.


There were 48 7th round picks in 2013 (oi...). I count 19 (40%) who didn't make the final 53.


For 2013 if a player was put on IR for that's year but then made the active roster I didn't count them as cut. If they were put on IR and didn't make the active roster the next year I counted them as cut. For a few players it wasn't clear whether they were on the active roster or not so I didn't count them - it's possible there are a few more players who didn't make the roster than what I counted. If a player was cut in the pre-season, put on the practice squad, and later activated, I considered them as cut, because we are talking about players making the final 53.


So it seems a good rule of thumb that about 40% of 7th round picks get cut.

Chad Henne makes me sick. Have to think he makes the cut, because he poses zero threat to Bortles and we don't need any potential divisiveness. Still would rather see a project than Henne. Perhaps, if we have to use the backup, it'll make tanking easier with Henne

Jags:

Qb: Bortles, Henne

RB: Yeldon, Robinson, Gerhart, Johnson

WR: Robinson, Lee, Hurns, Greene, Doss

TE: Thomas, Lewis, Harbor, Koyack

T: Joeckel, Parnell, Pasztor, Young

G: Beadles, Linder, Cann

C: Wiszniewski, Bowanko


K- Scobee

P- Anger


DE: Clemons, Odrick, Branch, Alualu, Davis, Smith

DT: Marks, Miller, Bennett, Jones, Hood

LB : Poz, Smith, Skuta, Reynolds, George, Fortt

CB: Colvin, McCray, House, Gratz, Harris

S: Cyprien, Sample, Brown, Evans


LS: Tinker


guys like Rashaad Reynolds, Sterling, Loston, Nick Marshall go to PS. The safety situation makes me sad, but I think LB improved, and CB and DL are strengths. I expect Colvin to push House for the starting outside spot. I expect Cann to push Beadles out, eventually.

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Qb: Bortles, Henne

RB: Yeldon, Robinson, Gerhart, Johnson

WR: Robinson, Lee, Hurns, Greene, Doss

TE: Thomas, Lewis, Harbor, Koyack

T: Joeckel, Parnell, Pasztor, Young

G: Beadles, Linder, Cann

C: Wiszniewski, Bowanko


K- Scobee

P- Anger


DE: Clemons, Odrick, Branch, Alualu, Davis, Smith

DT: Marks, Miller, Bennett, Jones, Hood

LB : Poz, Smith, Skuta, Reynolds, George, Fortt

CB: Colvin, McCray, House, Gratz, Harris

S: Cyprien, Sample, Brown, Evans


LS: Tinker


guys like Rashaad Reynolds, Sterling, Loston, Nick Marshall go to PS. The safety situation makes me sad, but I think LB improved, and CB and DL are strengths. I expect Colvin to push House for the starting outside spot. I expect Cann to push Beadles out, eventually.

I don't think Sterling would last very long on the PS, if he even made it there in the first place. I think some team would snatch him up.

Quote:I don't think Sterling would last very long on the PS, if he even made it there in the first place. I think some team would snatch him up.

Yeah, I would be shocked if Sterling wasn't on the 53 man roster.

Quote:I don't think there's any chance Evans is going anywhere this season. He has far too much experience in this scheme to just dump him this year. He is far better suited as a SS and if they absolutely got snake bitten at FS, he could jump back into the role and hold it down for the time needed.

 

I think we keep only 4 Safeties. Cyp, Evans, Sample and Brown. Loston is the odd man out and he definitely doesn't provide a bump in talent over Cyp or Evans at SS in my opinion. He's basically a Cyp clone with far less talent.

Plus Gratz could always slide to a S spot if injuries made it so...

We (seemingly) are loaded at WR and CB

Quote:Teams cut draft picks all the time. The only reason the jags rarely do is because our roster has been so terrible for so long.

 

 

Yes, draft pics get cut all the time but to draft a player and then cut him in the same year would mean you didn't do a very good job drafting. There is no way Dave would do that, yet.

 

The Jaguars will not CUT any of the draft pics from this year. It aint gunna happen! They may put them on IR so they can get bigger, stronger or more acclimated to the NFL but they would not cut them for a number of reasons.

 

The roster is not terrible anymore but it's still not Great...Yes, it's better than terrible but not so good that we are going to cut talented young players.