Quote:Well, he's passionate about the subject, which is fine. But it was clear he wasn't really interested in any real conversation about the subject when he preemptively chastised any viewpoint contrary to his with his tough guy comment in his first post. And he's probably upset nobody agrees with him. Sometimes lone dissention comes from somebody just trying to be a contrarian. Perhaps that's him.
Not being contrarian at all. I've always thought that a horrific crime that brought no benefit to the perpetrator was a sign of insanity.
And I am
shocked that more don't agree with me! (sarcasm). I'm much more used to the deep insight of someone like trunt87 or the dancing of americus 2.0. It's to be expected. It's the norm, unfortunately.
Quote:Is that what you kids are calling it now? In my day we just went with "dating Rosie Palm and her five sisters" or "choking the chicken." The artistic among us used "slapping the bass" (guitar not the fish). My how times don't really change.
You've never seen Wrath of Khan, have you?
Quote:Your mama must be so proud lol. Are we supposed to be impressed with your high moral standards of opposing the death penalty? From a person who hopes someone "is used by the general population"?
And that silliness about being released after ten years really makes you look ignorant. Tell me someone who committed a crime of this nature, was found to be insane, and then released after ten years?
Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to satisfy your need for revenge.
The death penalty is not about revenge, it's a tool to remove those parts of society that are beyond rehabilitation. If an individual threatens society to the point they can never be reintroduced into society they must be removed. Why is it more humane to "treat his insanity" at the cost of society? What has he done to deserve that charity? are we going to cure the evil that drives him to kill and then release him? Of course not you want to treat him and then let him sit in a cell for the rest of his life.
Quote:Not being contrarian at all. I've always thought that a horrific crime that brought no benefit to the perpetrator was a sign of insanity.
And I am shocked that more don't agree with me! (sarcasm). I'm much more used to the deep insight of someone like trunt87 or the dancing of americus 2.0. It's to be expected. It's the norm, unfortunately.
You must get off on being a real nozzle to people.. Sad pathetic little man..
Quote:So, give me a motive that negates insanity. I didn't see one. All I saw was a lot of dancing around, looking for words other than insanity, but mean the same thing.
And wasn't TJ the one who claimed the Sandy Hook shooter wasn't insane? You agree with that? Give an example of insanity so I can understand.
Right now my definition of insanity is trying to have this conversation with you.
Quote:Right now my definition of insanity is trying to have this conversation with you.
Pretty much. He's just another idiot that thinks he knows everything, but really knows nothing. But at least he's sassy, so that might impress somebody.
Quote:The death penalty is not about revenge, it's a tool to remove those parts of society that are beyond rehabilitation. If an individual threatens society to the point they can never be reintroduced into society they must be removed. Why is it more humane to "treat his insanity" at the cost of society? What has he done to deserve that charity? are we going to cure the evil that drives him to kill and then release him? Of course not you want to treat him and then let him sit in a cell for the rest of his life.
IMO the only good reason for the death penalty is that people are still escaping from prison (or occasionally released by misguided judges), and it should only be applied in the case that it's certain beyond a shadow of a doubt the accused is guilty.
Even in cases like this it's better to just sentence him to life without parole; such a person may have useful information that would be lost if he were executed.
The death penalty sure is a touchy subject for some in here I see.
I guess you either believe in it or you don't, no middle ground?
Quote:The death penalty sure is a touchy subject for some in here I see.
I guess you either believe in it or you don't, no middle ground?
Not much middle ground between being dead or alive.
Quote:Not much middle ground between being dead or alive.
Even less between alive and ought to be dead.
Quote:Even less between alive and ought to be dead.
Actually there is a lot more there since only one is an absolute.
Quote:Not much middle ground between being dead or alive.
Except for being in one of those coma states, where you are technically still alive, but you just don't know it.
Just watched grandparents of the 6 year old that was killed in the theater that night. It was heartbreaking. They wanted the death penalty, and feel like because it was not granted, they have no closure.
It's a tough spot. But I'm with Adam on this one. I know that the grandparents wanted the death penalty, but trust me, even after the death penalty, the pain doesn't go away.
Plus, I think life in prison is a punishment far worse than death... Human's aren't supposed to be locked up the way our system is set up now. He's gonna be in a tiny cement block cell for 23 hours a day for the rest of his life, with no other contact. That is a living hell for a person.
My prayers to all the victims and thier families. It's just a sad, sad situation.
On a side note, I heard on the radio yesterday that there was a poll that shows a change in how people view gun control... The change is for the better, at least for the pro-gun control crowd. Maybe in a few more years, we can actually start "regulating" our "militia" a little more "well" :thumbsup:
Ir was one loner juror that held out...... otherwise he would have gotten death