Wow, you do a great job of pointing out all the instances where government intervention decides the winners and losers and the customers usually end up the latter! You're spitting truth like a nail gun! Keep it up, you'll get here eventually!

Do you think that someone with money is going to invest in a second set of power plants, power lines, and wires up to your home to save you if your electric company decides to gouge you?

Like railroads, would the old antiquated grid still function without government? In any case using utilities as a case for monopolies and attempting to suuport your point is not being true to the situation. There is such a thing as natural and unnatural monopolies. 

To address your question, are you aware of power Coops?

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Do you think that someone with money is going to invest in a second set of power plants, power lines, and wires up to your home to save you if your electric company decides to gouge you?

Like railroads, would the old antiquated grid still function without government? In any case using utilities as a case for monopolies and attempting to suuport your point is not being true to the situation. There is such a thing as natural and unnatural monopolies. 

To address your question, are you aware of power Coops?

Aren't JEA and Lakeland Electric power co-ops?
If I recall correctly, those are both government owned.
Government ownership of productive enterprises is a big part of the definition of socialism.

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Start your own new airline! 

Don't demand the government use their guns to give you a good rate.

In that example, it may still be possible for someone to start their own airline, especially by flying to airports that the monopolist airline isn't using heavily. 
What about the cable company?
What about the electric company?
What about the sewers?

These are not monopolies as you see them.

Airlines at times could be considered an Oligarchy but past DOJ inquiry showed no collusion between airline executives. You can also expect that when a major airline invests in a hub, it will have a controlling interest. This does not mean upstarts can’t utilize but they will get fit in later. They are free to bid on air routes at anytime.

Cable companies are about as close to a monopoly as we get. However, cable is not a necessary utility. It is also an expensive venture. Like airlines, small upstarts can come in a license for areas to compete in. Where I’m currently at, none of the so called monopolistic companies exist. There are several smaller ones that compete and provide various levels of service. No contracts either.

Electric companies are or were considered a natural monopoly that services based on one old grid. Competition actually made no sense or was inefficient. With newer technologies more efficiency, and limited traditional generation forms, things are changing. There is wind, solar, natural gas, and other generation forms. However, the problem has always been the legacy grid and delivery. Free to invest, but nobody wants to. Like railroads, government intervention keeps it alive. Coops are stepping in to provide newer generation, grid tie-in, etc. to allow for competitive rates.

Sewers are a local public utility. Nothing else to say.

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Like railroads, would the old antiquated grid still function without government? In any case using utilities as a case for monopolies and attempting to suuport your point is not being true to the situation. There is such a thing as natural and unnatural monopolies. 

To address your question, are you aware of power Coops?

Aren't JEA and Lakeland Electric power co-ops?
If I recall correctly, those are both government owned.
Government ownership of productive enterprises is a big part of the definition of socialism.

JEA is one of the largest community-owned coops in the U.S. not government owned.

Lakeland Electric is a municipal utility company if I’m not mistaken, not a coop.

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Wow, you do a great job of pointing out all the instances where government intervention decides the winners and losers and the customers usually end up the latter! You're spitting truth like a nail gun! Keep it up, you'll get here eventually!

Do you think that someone with money is going to invest in a second set of power plants, power lines, and wires up to your home to save you if your electric company decides to gouge you?

So you don't believe in the free market, as expected.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Aren't JEA and Lakeland Electric power co-ops?
If I recall correctly, those are both government owned.
Government ownership of productive enterprises is a big part of the definition of socialism.

JEA is one of the largest community-owned coops in the U.S. not government owned.

Lakeland Electric is a municipal utility company if I’m not mistaken, not a coop.

JEA was owned and operated by the city of Jacksonville from 1895 to 1968.  Socialism then.
Then it was vested to an "independent" board of directors but it is still owned by the consolidated city and county. Socialism now. 
The Jacksonville City Council has the authority to choose the board of directors.  The Jacksonville City Council has debated selling, or privatizing, JEA recently, but from the beginning to today it is owned by some level of government.

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JEA is one of the largest community-owned coops in the U.S. not government owned.

Lakeland Electric is a municipal utility company if I’m not mistaken, not a coop.

JEA was owned and operated by the city of Jacksonville from 1895 to 1968.  Socialism then.
Then it was vested to an "independent" board of directors but it is still owned by the consolidated city and county. Socialism now. 
The Jacksonville City Council has the authority to choose the board of directors.  The Jacksonville City Council has debated selling, or privatizing, JEA recently, but from the beginning to today it is owned by some level of government.

Okay, once again you dig way back to past events. Who cares? It is not what it is today. The Jacksonville City Council does not run or own JEA. As a community owned utility and the largest provider, the council can only give it’s opinion when 10% or more of JEA controlling interest is up for sale or transfer as community representation. You elected these individuals to represent on your behalf for access to suitable utility. They are acting as middle men, not controlling parties. You can also attend hearings/inquires in person.

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Do you think that someone with money is going to invest in a second set of power plants, power lines, and wires up to your home to save you if your electric company decides to gouge you?

So you don't believe in the free market, as expected.

I believe the free market supplies almost anything we could want or need.
It seems like electricity is not one of those things though.
Wired internet service probably isn't either.
If you don't have government either regulating the prices or owning the Enterprise outright, prices get unreasonable, quickly, and with no recourse.
Did you know that city and state boards hold Comcast accountable for its prices?  They made a deal.  Comcast gets to be the sole owner of residential comm lines, but the city gets to challenge their prices. Do you think Comcast would charge more or less if this didn't happen?  Do you think the suburbs and rural area would have better access to cable, or worse, if this didn't happen?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

So you don't believe in the free market, as expected.

I believe the free market supplies almost anything we could want or need.
It seems like electricity is not one of those things though.
Wired internet service probably isn't either.
If you don't have government either regulating the prices or owning the Enterprise outright, prices get unreasonable, quickly, and with no recourse.
Did you know that city and state boards hold Comcast accountable for its prices?  They made a deal.  Comcast gets to be the sole owner of residential comm lines, but the city gets to challenge their prices. Do you think Comcast would charge more or less if this didn't happen?  Do you think the suburbs and rural area would have better access to cable, or worse, if this didn't happen?

The government picked the winner, do you think we'd have competition if they didn't? If you say no...well, we already know, right?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I believe the free market supplies almost anything we could want or need.
It seems like electricity is not one of those things though.
Wired internet service probably isn't either.
If you don't have government either regulating the prices or owning the Enterprise outright, prices get unreasonable, quickly, and with no recourse.
Did you know that city and state boards hold Comcast accountable for its prices?  They made a deal.  Comcast gets to be the sole owner of residential comm lines, but the city gets to challenge their prices. Do you think Comcast would charge more or less if this didn't happen?  Do you think the suburbs and rural area would have better access to cable, or worse, if this didn't happen?

The government picked the winner, do you think we'd have competition if they didn't? If you say no...well, we already know, right?

Competition would mean that most houses get at least two companies digging up their yards installing power or cable.
It would also mean that a rural customer might not have any company interested in reaching out to them.  Are these good outcomes?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

The government picked the winner, do you think we'd have competition if they didn't? If you say no...well, we already know, right?

Competition would mean that most houses get at least two companies digging up their yards installing power or cable.
It would also mean that a rural customer might not have any company interested in reaching out to them.  Are these good outcomes?

It might also mean cheaper prices or innovation driving a more effective, less intrusive delivery mechanism. But we'll never know since government took over and corrupted the market.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Competition would mean that most houses get at least two companies digging up their yards installing power or cable.
It would also mean that a rural customer might not have any company interested in reaching out to them.  Are these good outcomes?

It might also mean cheaper prices or innovation driving a more effective, less intrusive delivery mechanism. But we'll never know since government took over and corrupted the market.

Precisely.  JEA is the very definition of government corruption and bloat.  FPL runs circles around them.  I'd much rather have FPL than JEA.

Look no further than the energy inequality of Texas and California.
Texas is one of the highest producers and exporters of energy.  They get it, and they do it extremely well.
On the other side of the coin is California - who has just as many resources but squander that opportunity.  They are run by nutjobs and have to import power instead of harnessing it themselves.

Lesson in there.

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It might also mean cheaper prices or innovation driving a more effective, less intrusive delivery mechanism. But we'll never know since government took over and corrupted the market.

Precisely.  JEA is the very definition of government corruption and bloat.  FPL runs circles around them.  I'd much rather have FPL than JEA.

Look no further than the energy inequality of Texas and California.
Texas is one of the highest producers and exporters of energy.  They get it, and they do it extremely well.
On the other side of the coin is California - who has just as many resources but squander that opportunity.  They are run by nutjobs and have to import power instead of harnessing it themselves.

Lesson in there.

Right, FPL is not government owned, but they are very heavily regulated.  Counties that use FPL still have an electric monopoly.  Where I am we have Duke, also privately owned.  I feel like the OUC and FPL areas got restored faster than us after Matthew and Irma, and I remember reading that FPL had better customer satisfaction than Duke. in theory the government regulations should smooth this out and get the different private operators giving customers similar experiences, but there's really no way to know.

the only thing that we can know for sure is that if the government regulation goes away, competition will not come for most people. Only densely populated areas will get more than one electric grid provider. from there we can know for sure that lighter or absent government regulation in this area would give higher prices and inferior service. if my house is the only one using a certain pole Transformer and it blows up there may be no incentive for them to fix it quickly, if the repair would cost more than I would spend on electricity in a hundred years.

Why is it bad if California imports electricity from other states? One of the nice things about this union of states we have is zero barriers to trade and transit between states.  Why not take advantage of that?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.