Having read the news for the last 20 years, McCain was one of the few legislators who had strong support and respect from both sides of the horseshoe. He would have won in 2008 had the GOP not thrust some idiot from Alaska onto his campaign to try and grab the female vote, and he would have been one of the best Presidents in US history, period.

People don't vote based on the VP candidate, and Obama won with a huge lead. McCain could not have won in 2008 even if Mother Theresa was his running mate.

This is not true. She was hated that much. Obama would have won regardless but to say Palin was not a factor in the lack of votes for McCain is not true.

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So it's OK if the Left denigrates McCain but not the Right, and an excuse is fabricated to justify it.

Classic!

It's not a fabrication.
Try this experiment.  Find two veterans who earned purple hearts or bronze stars.  Tell one, "I don't like your shoes."  Then tell the other one, "I don't think you served honorably."  See which one is more upset with you.  Also count your teeth before and after.

It's fun to see how far you are willing to stretch to defend Chuck Schumer.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

It's not a fabrication.
Try this experiment.  Find two veterans who earned purple hearts or bronze stars.  Tell one, "I don't like your shoes."  Then tell the other one, "I don't think you served honorably."  See which one is more upset with you.  Also count your teeth before and after.

It's fun to see how far you are willing to stretch to defend Chuck Schumer.

I'm not defending him.
I said his comments were in poor taste.
But they weren't in the same league as Trump's.  He's in a league of poor taste only shared by other reality TV and porn stars. 
You're the one stretching by even attempting the comparison.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

It's fun to see how far you are willing to stretch to defend Chuck Schumer.

I'm not defending him.
I said his comments were in poor taste.
But they weren't in the same league as Trump's.  He's in a league of poor taste only shared by other reality TV and porn stars. 
You're the one stretching by even attempting the comparison.

You were claiming Trump said McCain didn't serve honorably. Trump only said that McCain shouldn't be called a "hero."There are many people who served honorably but were not "heroes."

I think McCain was clearly a hero and Trump was wrong. 

But you are stretching the truth here to excuse Schumer, and there were a lot of people on the Left (although not the prominent politician Schumer was, which is why I used his statement) who said things much worse about McCain than merely not being a hero.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

I'm not defending him.
I said his comments were in poor taste.
But they weren't in the same league as Trump's.  He's in a league of poor taste only shared by other reality TV and porn stars. 
You're the one stretching by even attempting the comparison.

You were claiming Trump said McCain didn't serve honorably. Trump only said that McCain shouldn't be called a "hero."There are many people who served honorably but were not "heroes."

I think McCain was clearly a hero and Trump was wrong. 

But you are stretching the truth here to excuse Schumer, and there were a lot of people on the Left (although not the prominent politician Schumer was, which is why I used his statement) who said things much worse about McCain than merely not being a hero.

Anyone with a bronze star or a purple heart is a hero. 
McCain earned both.
again go to someone who earned those honors and tell him that he's not a hero, see how it works out for you.
You do a lot better if you simply said that you don't care for his shoes.
all Schumer said was that McCain's current life situation was not conducive to being the type of president who relates to average people.
Trump said that John McCain did not deserve to be called a hero for what he did in Vietnam.
Again if you can't see that these comments are not at all in the same league, shame on you.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You were claiming Trump said McCain didn't serve honorably. Trump only said that McCain shouldn't be called a "hero."There are many people who served honorably but were not "heroes."

I think McCain was clearly a hero and Trump was wrong. 

But you are stretching the truth here to excuse Schumer, and there were a lot of people on the Left (although not the prominent politician Schumer was, which is why I used his statement) who said things much worse about McCain than merely not being a hero.

Anyone with a bronze star or a purple heart is a hero. 
McCain earned both.
again go to someone who earned those honors and tell him that he's not a hero, see how it works out for you.
You do a lot better if you simply said that you don't care for his shoes.
all Schumer said was that McCain's current life situation was not conducive to being the type of president who relates to average people.
Trump said that John McCain did not deserve to be called a hero for what he did in Vietnam.
Again if you can't see that these comments are not at all in the same league, shame on you.

So, because someone is willing to attack a person for his opinion that makes him right in your mind. And no, I don't consider every veteran who was wounded to be a hero. I do consider McCain to be a hero, but somewhere there is probably a person with a bronze star who didn't deserve it.

I still see that you are willing to ignore anything the Left does, because as long as it's from the Left it doesn't fit in your Venn circle of wrong. It's merely "poor taste."

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Having read the news for the last 20 years, McCain was one of the few legislators who had strong support and respect from both sides of the horseshoe. He would have won in 2008 had the GOP not thrust some idiot from Alaska onto his campaign to try and grab the female vote, and he would have been one of the best Presidents in US history, period.

People don't vote based on the VP candidate, and Obama won with a huge lead. McCain could not have won in 2008 even if Mother Theresa was his running mate.

Palin was a massive turn-off to the typical American centrist. Obama had a massive, motivated base, whereas McCain was fighting for his votes. Maybe he would have lost anyway, maybe he could have saved it, but Palin didn't help. She decided within a month of being forced upon McCain that she was going to focus on her 2012 Presidential campaign rather than helping McCain win it in 2008.

And, by the way, McCain's first (or second, depending on who you believe) choice for VP was Joe Lieberman. Had they not both been old white guys in the year of Obama, a bipartisan ticket like that with two popular politicians attached to it would have been immensely hard to beat.

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That was Chuck Schumer.

No comparison. 
First of all, denigrating the service of any vet that got an honorable discharge is completely out of bounds, especially when you are not a vet yourself. Obama never denigrated McCain's service and neither did Bush.
Denigrating someone for his rich lifestyle is poor taste, but, it's also part of politics because most voters do want to feel like their leaders understand the challenges of not having millions of dollars.

They called McCain George Wallace.  

Also, if u think no one said that about McCain in 08 ur crazy.

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People don't vote based on the VP candidate, and Obama won with a huge lead. McCain could not have won in 2008 even if Mother Theresa was his running mate.

Palin was a massive turn-off to the typical American centrist. Obama had a massive, motivated base, whereas McCain was fighting for his votes. Maybe he would have lost anyway, maybe he could have saved it, but Palin didn't help. She decided within a month of being forced upon McCain that she was going to focus on her 2012 Presidential campaign rather than helping McCain win it in 2008.

And, by the way, McCain's first (or second, depending on who you believe) choice for VP was Joe Lieberman. Had they not both been old white guys in the year of Obama, a bipartisan ticket like that with two popular politicians attached to it would have been immensely hard to beat.

Life handed john McCain the presidency with tarp.  If he suspended his campaign to oppose it he would have won.  

Also, the only time he had a polling advantage over Obama was from the Palin bump.  

In fairness, a third consecutive presidential term is rare especially with an economy in free fall, but the whole reason he picked Palin is because he had a strained relationship with the base he pretty much had disdain for.

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People don't vote based on the VP candidate, and Obama won with a huge lead. McCain could not have won in 2008 even if Mother Theresa was his running mate.

This is not true. She was hated that much. Obama would have won regardless but to say Palin was not a factor in the lack of votes for McCain is not true.

Were you someone who would have voted for McCain but didn't because of Palin?

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

This is not true. She was hated that much. Obama would have won regardless but to say Palin was not a factor in the lack of votes for McCain is not true.

Were you someone who would have voted for McCain but didn't because of Palin?

It was a factor but to be honest, I was pretty messed up back then in my personal life and Obama's "hope and change" message resonated pretty strong for me personally even though it meant nothing politically. So, I voted for him. Partially for his message and partially because I didn't want Palin anywhere near the WH. Call me crazy but that's where my head was at.

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When McCain was running, does anyone else remember the Democrat political commercials which had doctors commenting on his cancer and how it could potentially be debilitating?

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When McCain was running, does anyone else remember the Democrat political commercials which had doctors commenting on his cancer and how it could potentially be debilitating?

His health was part of why I was freaking out about Palin being VP. I did not want her literally being a heart attack away of becoming POTUS. Also, I just didn't want her anywhere near the WH as I mentioned before. I put my disdain for her and H Clinton on the same level though for different reasons.

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When McCain was running, does anyone else remember the Democrat political commercials which had doctors commenting on his cancer and how it could potentially be debilitating?

Yes. They were absolutely tasteless, kind of like the man who approved airing them.

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When McCain was running, does anyone else remember the Democrat political commercials which had doctors commenting on his cancer and how it could potentially be debilitating?

Yes. They were absolutely tasteless, kind of like the man who approved airing them.

Similar to what Karl Rove did to McCain in the South Carolina primary when he ran against Bush.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley