Haha, all the arm chair GMs wrong yet again.

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Bust.

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As someone who was not on the Haskins bandwagon last year during the draft, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Gotta give the guy a year or so to see if he has the skills needed.

The concern I had with him back during the draft wasn't necessarily anything he did wrong but instead was the lack of starts and the fact he was usually throwing from a clean pocket to wide open receivers. And I remember there being this nextgen type analysis that showed his numbers under pressure were unusually bad. But if I remember right they analysis was done midseason last year. Not sure how he ended the year. Anyways didnt look too hot under pressure yesterday. We'll see how much he improves as he starts getting more reps in practice and in the games.

Even though I may not like a guy during the draft process, I usually find myself rooting for them once they get in the league. However as it stands right now I'm pretty glad we have Minshew instead!

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As someone who was not on the Haskins bandwagon last year during the draft, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.  Gotta give the guy a year or so to see if he has the skills needed.

The concern I had with him back during the draft wasn't necessarily anything he did wrong but instead was the lack of starts and the fact he was usually throwing from a clean pocket to wide open receivers.  And I remember there being this nextgen type analysis that showed his numbers under pressure were unusually bad.  But if I remember right they analysis was done midseason last year.  Not sure how he ended the year.  Anyways didnt look too hot under pressure yesterday.  We'll see how much he improves as he starts getting more reps in practice and in the games.

Even though I may not like a guy during the draft process, I usually find myself rooting for them once they get in the league.  However as it stands right now I'm pretty glad we have Minshew instead!

The thing is, some posters were touting him as the most "NFL-ready".

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Haskins first career TD was epic.  To the Giants safety

How's Aaron Murray doing?

If going by one game makes an NFL career, then yes, Haskins is a bust. However, I think he has all the tools to be successful as long as the Redskins don't muck it up (which I'm sure they will)

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Haskins first career TD was epic.  To the Giants safety

How's Aaron Murray doing?

If going by one game makes an NFL career, then yes, Haskins is a bust. However, I think he has all the tools to be successful as long as the Redskins don't muck it up (which I'm sure they will)

Lol, trying to blame it on the Redskins.  It's coming to fruition of what most seen.  Haskins had Urban Myer, didnt play any good defenses, had the best WR corps in the nation where is WR were always open, and is very bad under pressure.  Nothing wrong with liking a QB but you and a few others still wanted this guy in the 1st after we got Foles.  We would of never got Allen or Minshew if we drafted this guy in the 1st and would of likely set this franchise back another 5 years.  Glad Tom and Dave got it right this time

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How's Aaron Murray doing?

If going by one game makes an NFL career, then yes, Haskins is a bust. However, I think he has all the tools to be successful as long as the Redskins don't muck it up (which I'm sure they will)

Lol, trying to blame it on the Redskins.  It's coming to fruition of what most seen.  Haskins had Urban Myer, didnt play any good defenses, had the best WR corps in the nation where is WR were always open, and is very bad under pressure.  Nothing wrong with liking a QB but you and a few others still wanted this guy in the 1st after we got Foles.  We would of never got Allen or Minshew if we drafted this guy in the 1st and would of likely set this franchise back another 5 years.  Glad Tom and Dave got it right this time

No one knew Allen was going to be there and when he was, I was all about Allen. 

This franchise lucked into Minshew just like the Pats lucked into Brady. 

Nothing is coming to fruition about Haskins. Literally nothing. He has played in 1 NFL game. If he plays good next week (unlikely since it's the Pats) then it will still mean nothing.

Also, if you can't see how the Redskins are hurting Haskins, then I can't help you.

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Lol, trying to blame it on the Redskins.  It's coming to fruition of what most seen.  Haskins had Urban Myer, didnt play any good defenses, had the best WR corps in the nation where is WR were always open, and is very bad under pressure.  Nothing wrong with liking a QB but you and a few others still wanted this guy in the 1st after we got Foles.  We would of never got Allen or Minshew if we drafted this guy in the 1st and would of likely set this franchise back another 5 years.  Glad Tom and Dave got it right this time

No one knew Allen was going to be there and when he was, I was all about Allen. 

This franchise lucked into Minshew just like the Pats lucked into Brady. 

Nothing is coming to fruition about Haskins. Literally nothing. He has played in 1 NFL game. If he plays good next week (unlikely since it's the Pats) then it will still mean nothing.

Also, if you can't see how the Redskins are hurting Haskins, then I can't help you.

You wanted Haskins if he was available, saying he could be the next Mahomes lol.  We lucked out on getting Minshew in the 6th but the way he is playing isnt luck.  The guy led the nation in passing last year and was 5th in the Heisman so it isnt like he was some bum that came out of nowhere.  I haven't declared him a bust but it wasnt pretty when they put him in.  It's not like they started him week 1.  And how are they hurting Haskins?  They drafted his WR from college that is setting rookie records.  This is the NFL, his WRs wont be as open as they were in college and he will face more pressure

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Remember, rookie QBs are expected to well below average year 1. Especially when they don't take any 1st team reps and have a bad supporting cast.

Minshew is an exception atm

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Remember, rookie QBs are expected to well below average year 1. Especially when they don't take any 1st team reps and have a bad supporting cast.

Minshew is an exception atm

I think it's Minshew's passion for the game coupled with his obvious knowledge of it. And he's always trying to learn more.

He only wants to play football. It's about time we had someone with this love of the game as QB.

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No one knew Allen was going to be there and when he was, I was all about Allen. 

This franchise lucked into Minshew just like the Pats lucked into Brady. 

Nothing is coming to fruition about Haskins. Literally nothing. He has played in 1 NFL game. If he plays good next week (unlikely since it's the Pats) then it will still mean nothing.

Also, if you can't see how the Redskins are hurting Haskins, then I can't help you.

You wanted Haskins if he was available, saying he could be the next Mahomes lol.  We lucked out on getting Minshew in the 6th but the way he is playing isnt luck.  The guy led the nation in passing last year and was 5th in the Heisman so it isnt like he was some bum that came out of nowhere.  I haven't declared him a bust but it wasnt pretty when they put him in.  It's not like they started him week 1.  And how are they hurting Haskins?  They drafted his WR from college that is setting rookie records.  This is the NFL, his WRs wont be as open as they were in college and he will face more pressure

I never said he would be the next Mahomes but good try on that one. No one is Mahomes and that was evident last year going into the draft.

Yes. I thought/still think Haskins will be good. Yes, you're trying to prop yourself up after 1 bad game from Haskins. How's Grier doing? 

McLaurin didn't play on Sunday so Haskins had the ultra athletic Trey Quinn, Paul Richardson, and Vernon Davis (still kinda got it). Then he has no LT, ERECK FLOWERS, slow and old AP, no time with the 1's and a lame duck coach who will be gone. 

Did Haskins look good? Nope. Will he look good this upcoming week? Probably not. However the plan was to sit him this entire season and then the brilliantly run Redskins threw him in.

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You wanted Haskins if he was available, saying he could be the next Mahomes lol.  We lucked out on getting Minshew in the 6th but the way he is playing isnt luck.  The guy led the nation in passing last year and was 5th in the Heisman so it isnt like he was some bum that came out of nowhere.  I haven't declared him a bust but it wasnt pretty when they put him in.  It's not like they started him week 1.  And how are they hurting Haskins?  They drafted his WR from college that is setting rookie records.  This is the NFL, his WRs wont be as open as they were in college and he will face more pressure

I never said he would be the next Mahomes but good try on that one. No one is Mahomes and that was evident last year going into the draft.

Yes. I thought/still think Haskins will be good. Yes, you're trying to prop yourself up after 1 bad game from Haskins. How's Grier doing? 

McLaurin didn't play on Sunday so Haskins had the ultra athletic Trey Quinn, Paul Richardson, and Vernon Davis (still kinda got it). Then he has no LT, ERECK FLOWERS, slow and old AP, no time with the 1's and a lame duck coach who will be gone. 

Did Haskins look good? Nope. Will he look good this upcoming week? Probably not. However the plan was to sit him this entire season and then the brilliantly run Redskins threw him in.

Grier hasnt had his chance yet and they took him in the 3rd not the 1st.  Big difference

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I never said he would be the next Mahomes but good try on that one. No one is Mahomes and that was evident last year going into the draft.

Yes. I thought/still think Haskins will be good. Yes, you're trying to prop yourself up after 1 bad game from Haskins. How's Grier doing? 

McLaurin didn't play on Sunday so Haskins had the ultra athletic Trey Quinn, Paul Richardson, and Vernon Davis (still kinda got it). Then he has no LT, ERECK FLOWERS, slow and old AP, no time with the 1's and a lame duck coach who will be gone. 

Did Haskins look good? Nope. Will he look good this upcoming week? Probably not. However the plan was to sit him this entire season and then the brilliantly run Redskins threw him in.

Grier hasnt had his chance yet and they took him in the 3rd not the 1st.  Big difference

Oh cool. So it's too soon to tell? Got it.

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Haskins shouldn't have been thrust into the lineup. I liked him coming out of college but felt he was a bit risky to take compared to everyone else simply due to his lack of overall experience. He had one big year of output. Probably should have stayed another year at Ohio St.

There's also been some grumblings that it was actually ownership requesting that Haskins be drafted back in April and that the coaching staff was pretty much iffy on it or didn't want it to happen to begin with. I would say I am surprised but this is the Redskins we're talking about. Daniel Snyder is known for these decisions.

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I'm not sure I've ever seen Haskins' head move during a dropback.

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Haskins first career TD was epic.  To the Giants safety

How's Aaron Murray doing?

If going by one game makes an NFL career, then yes, Haskins is a bust. However, I think he has all the tools to be successful as long as the Redskins don't muck it up (which I'm sure they will)

You wanted Haskins if he was available, saying he could be the next Mahomes lol.  We lucked out on getting Minshew in the 6th but the way he is playing isnt luck.  The guy led the nation in passing last year and was 5th in the Heisman so it isnt like he was some bum that came out of nowhere.  I haven't declared him a bust but it wasnt pretty when they put him in.  It's not like they started him week 1.  And how are they hurting Haskins?  They drafted his WR from college that is setting rookie records.  This is the NFL, his WRs wont be as open as they were in college and he will face more pressure

I never said he would be the next Mahomes but good try on that one. No one is Mahomes and that was evident last year going into the draft.

Yes. I thought/still think Haskins will be good. Yes, you're trying to prop yourself up after 1 bad game from Haskins. How's Grier doing? 

McLaurin didn't play on Sunday so Haskins had the ultra athletic Trey Quinn, Paul Richardson, and Vernon Davis (still kinda got it). Then he has no LT, ERECK FLOWERS, slow and old AP, no time with the 1's and a lame duck coach who will be gone. 

Did Haskins look good? Nope. Will he look good this upcoming week? Probably not. However the plan was to sit him this entire season and then the brilliantly run Redskins threw him in.

Jags fan called him a bust btw, not me.  I just said his first career TD was epic, to the wrong team.  Did that hurt your feelings?

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Haskins shouldn't have been thrust into the lineup. I liked him coming out of college but felt he was a bit risky to take compared to everyone else simply due to his lack of overall experience. He had one big year of output. Probably should have stayed another year at Ohio St.

There's also been some grumblings that it was actually ownership requesting that Haskins be drafted back in April and that the coaching staff was pretty much iffy on it or didn't want it to happen to begin with. I would say I am surprised but this is the Redskins we're talking about. Daniel Snyder is known for these decisions.

Very good points.

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Haskins shouldn't have been thrust into the lineup. I liked him coming out of college but felt he was a bit risky to take compared to everyone else simply due to his lack of overall experience. He had one big year of output. Probably should have stayed another year at Ohio St.

There's also been some grumblings that it was actually ownership requesting that Haskins be drafted back in April and that the coaching staff was pretty much iffy on it or didn't want it to happen to begin with. I would say I am surprised but this is the Redskins we're talking about. Daniel Snyder is known for these decisions.

Very good points.

Well. Jay Gruden is out in Washington. Seems a bit early. But there was clearly a disconnect between the coaching staff and Snyder. Always something with the coaches up there in Washington. Snyder forced his hand with RGIII and it rubbed Shanahan the wrong way. Seems to be damn near the EXACT same case with Gruden and Haskins this year. 

My guess is that Jay Gruden makes some kind of return to the Bengals this year or early next year. He's still one of the better offensive minds in football. I don't think he'll be out of a job for long. Hell, he could end up with his big brother in Oakland or in Vegas next year helping him out.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

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