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2020 Offseason Bold Predictions.

#21

(02-13-2020, 04:57 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 03:37 PM)Kane Wrote: I see what you did there...

We're looking for bold, not crazy, Cleat. lol
Always a few teams that people don't expect but they make a run.

2019: 49ers Titans
2018: Bears Colts (maybe)
2017: Jags Eagles Bills Titans
2016: Dolphins Raiders Lions Giants

Jags are projected to pick top 5 again next year so let's shock the world. BE BOLD

I'll be giddy, no doubt... 

That being said, I'm expecting something along the .500 mark. While Minshew develops, our D is going to take some work (especially if we lose Yan and still struggle at LB). Think the offense has a quicker turnaround than the D and we'll be losing some shoot outs instead of being blown out a lot.
But 2021 (I hope) will be a legit chance to be "in the hunt".

You're right though. Every year there is at least one team in the playoffs that no one expected to be there when the season kicks off. "Why not us?"
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#22

Next year is our year
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#23

Team is bad again. Marrone still has another year left after the season, so Khan sends out the exact same statement for a 3rd year in a row.

Jag fans still left with tickets dump them. Lot J bombs with the dumpster fire of the Jags next to it.
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#24
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2020, 03:08 PM by wiki23.)

(02-13-2020, 10:54 AM)Kane Wrote:
(02-13-2020, 10:53 AM)Brett Wrote: Doug Marrone will last the whole season as head coach...


Lol, I can't even type it seriously.

Well.... I certainly hope so... I mean... otherwise it means we suck again.
I just want to win. Even if that means keeping Doug and Dave around

Quite a catch 22 eh

I don't think you have to worry about us winning alot of games this year.

(02-13-2020, 05:58 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Team will finish 10 - 6.
Top 10 in offense.
Top 10 in defense.
They'll trade out of that 9th spot in the draft on opening night and secure more picks for later on that weekend, including that very night.
Both players selected in RD1 on opening night will be pro-bowl caliber players as rookies. Instant impact.
Minshew wins NFL MVP.
Team wins the Superbowl against the Dallas Cowboys.

You said be bold.

Now that is bold! I'm gonna go the other way we finish 3-13 But still keep Marrone and caldwell because the 3 games we win are at the end of the season. But I'm hoping you are right and I am way off!
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#25
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2020, 04:01 PM by ATLjag.)

Predictions:

Fournette not given 5th year option, plays last season unceremoniously, and moves on.

Devine Ozigbo gets more opportunities and shines. Armstead looks solid.

Foles outplays Minshew in the offseason and creates "who should start" chaos.

Robinson moved to guard (and swing OT), with rookie drafted to start at LT.

Campbell refuses to lower pay, but accepts a restructured short term contract switching base to signing bonus, allowing Jags to save cap in 2020 (pushing the 2020 savings into later cap).

Ngakoue demands more than Jags are willing to pay, and he is franchise tagged. With public explanation that Allen's development and need for more play time, Yannick is traded for a second round selection (similar to Dee Ford trade compensation).

Bouye and Dareus are released for significant cap savings, and both positions are addressed in free agency with veteran signings of minor cost. However, each position is further addressed in the draft.

Jack is moved to WLB, and a vet free agent is signed to start. Although I wish it was Littleton, the signing will look more like last year's Jake Ryan signing.
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#26

(02-19-2020, 03:57 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Predictions:

Fournette not given 5th year option, plays last season unceremoniously, and moves on.

Devine Ozigbo gets more opportunities and shines.  Armstead looks solid.

Foles outplays Minshew in the offseason and creates "who should start" chaos.

Robinson moved to guard (and swing OT), with rookie drafted to start at LT.

Campbell refuses to lower pay, but accepts a restructured short term contract switching base to signing bonus, allowing Jags to save cap in 2020 (pushing the 2020 savings into later cap).

Ngakoue demands more than Jags are willing to pay, and he is franchise tagged.  With public explanation that Allen's development and need for more play time, Yannick is traded for a second round selection (similar to Dee Ford trade compensation).  

Bouye and Dareus are released for significant cap savings, and both positions are addressed in free agency with veteran signings of minor cost.  However, each position is further addressed in the draft.

Jack is moved to WLB, and a vet free agent is signed to start.  Although I wish it was Littleton, the signing will look more like last year's Jake Ryan signing.

All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction? Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts. The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.
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#27

(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 03:57 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Predictions:

Fournette not given 5th year option, plays last season unceremoniously, and moves on.

Devine Ozigbo gets more opportunities and shines.  Armstead looks solid.

Foles outplays Minshew in the offseason and creates "who should start" chaos.

Robinson moved to guard (and swing OT), with rookie drafted to start at LT.

Campbell refuses to lower pay, but accepts a restructured short term contract switching base to signing bonus, allowing Jags to save cap in 2020 (pushing the 2020 savings into later cap).

Ngakoue demands more than Jags are willing to pay, and he is franchise tagged.  With public explanation that Allen's development and need for more play time, Yannick is traded for a second round selection (similar to Dee Ford trade compensation).  

Bouye and Dareus are released for significant cap savings, and both positions are addressed in free agency with veteran signings of minor cost.  However, each position is further addressed in the draft.

Jack is moved to WLB, and a vet free agent is signed to start.  Although I wish it was Littleton, the signing will look more like last year's Jake Ryan signing.

All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.

For a chance at Trevor Lawrence? Someone get Tonya Harding on the phone. Let's make it happen.
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#28

(02-19-2020, 05:16 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote: All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.

For a chance at Trevor Lawrence? Someone get Tonya Harding on the phone. Let's make it happen.

If we have to Gillooly someone to get to that top spot, it might be worth it.  I'm holding out hope that the incompetence demonstrated by this front office and coaching staff over the past decade will pave the way to landing that coveted first pick next year, although as usual, I'm sure we'll find a way to screw that up.
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#29

(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 03:57 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Predictions:

Fournette not given 5th year option, plays last season unceremoniously, and moves on.

Devine Ozigbo gets more opportunities and shines.  Armstead looks solid.

Foles outplays Minshew in the offseason and creates "who should start" chaos.

Robinson moved to guard (and swing OT), with rookie drafted to start at LT.

Campbell refuses to lower pay, but accepts a restructured short term contract switching base to signing bonus, allowing Jags to save cap in 2020 (pushing the 2020 savings into later cap).

Ngakoue demands more than Jags are willing to pay, and he is franchise tagged.  With public explanation that Allen's development and need for more play time, Yannick is traded for a second round selection (similar to Dee Ford trade compensation).  

Bouye and Dareus are released for significant cap savings, and both positions are addressed in free agency with veteran signings of minor cost.  However, each position is further addressed in the draft.

Jack is moved to WLB, and a vet free agent is signed to start.  Although I wish it was Littleton, the signing will look more like last year's Jake Ryan signing.

All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.
I have almost zero faith in this front office (including ownership) to get a deal done with Yannick.  Keeping Yan, from a positional and talent standpoint, is an absolute no brainer.  This diminished faith stems from years of decent at best drafting in the Shack era, to horrific drafting under Gene Smith, to good if not great drafting under Caldwell, but an inability to retain the best players.   As time goes by, I get the abiding sense-accompanied by overwhelming nausea-Yan will be traded away, or at the very least remain absent from camp this year.  

It is my deepest hope that we keep Yan.  If my fears are realized, my desire would be to have nothing less than a 2 this year in compensation for him.  Of course I would gladly accept a first round pick next year, because I would want to package a deal to get Lawrence.

Of course, as demoralized as I am about this team's state of affairs, my hopes for the promise of the draft is diminished given how poorly this team has been mismanaged over the years.  I have never had the fear that a guy would pull an Elway, Bo Jackson or Eli Manning on us, but I fear that even if we manage to acquire enough picks to get Lawrence, he would be averse to playing here, to the point of staying another year in school or simply refusing to sign with us.  To mitigate that possibility, part of me wants to stockpile talent on the offensive side of the ball this year.  Starting with a LT, taking a WR or two, getting a couple of interior OL, and spending another mid round pick on a TE.  This way, we know for certain what we have in Foles/Minshew (assuming we hit on the picks) and if we still need Lawrence when all is said and done, he will have a better sense he would have the tools to succeed here.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#30

(02-19-2020, 03:02 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Team is bad again. Marrone still has another year left after the season, so Khan sends out the exact same statement for a 3rd year in a row.

Jag fans still left with tickets dump them. Lot J bombs with the dumpster fire of the Jags next to it.

Those aren't bold... just depressing lol
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#31
(This post was last modified: 02-20-2020, 12:37 PM by Kane.)

(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 03:57 PM)ATLjag Wrote: Predictions:

Fournette not given 5th year option, plays last season unceremoniously, and moves on.

Devine Ozigbo gets more opportunities and shines.  Armstead looks solid.

Foles outplays Minshew in the offseason and creates "who should start" chaos.

Robinson moved to guard (and swing OT), with rookie drafted to start at LT.

Campbell refuses to lower pay, but accepts a restructured short term contract switching base to signing bonus, allowing Jags to save cap in 2020 (pushing the 2020 savings into later cap).

Ngakoue demands more than Jags are willing to pay, and he is franchise tagged.  With public explanation that Allen's development and need for more play time, Yannick is traded for a second round selection (similar to Dee Ford trade compensation).  

Bouye and Dareus are released for significant cap savings, and both positions are addressed in free agency with veteran signings of minor cost.  However, each position is further addressed in the draft.

Jack is moved to WLB, and a vet free agent is signed to start.  Although I wish it was Littleton, the signing will look more like last year's Jake Ryan signing.

All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.

Man I started reading your prediction all excited... then you jumped on the Trevor Lawrence train...
I'm not exactly anti-Lawrence but I'm hoping for better things from Minshew and would loathe sitting through a 2 win season.
I also don't think Lawrence is a franchise saving QB so not sure how quick of a turnaround a 2 win team has just by getting him, but we'll see how his final college season plays out.

(02-19-2020, 06:22 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 05:16 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: For a chance at Trevor Lawrence? Someone get Tonya Harding on the phone. Let's make it happen.

If we have to Gillooly someone to get to that top spot, it might be worth it.  I'm holding out hope that the incompetence demonstrated by this front office and coaching staff over the past decade will pave the way to landing that coveted first pick next year, although as usual, I'm sure we'll find a way to screw that up.

Just to be clear... you're hoping we lose a bunch and get the first overall pick?
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#32

(02-20-2020, 12:35 PM)Kane Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote: All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.

Man I started reading your prediction all excited... then you jumped on the Trevor Lawrence train...
I'm not exactly anti-Lawrence but I'm hoping for better things from Minshew and would loathe sitting through a 2 win season.
I also don't think Lawrence is a franchise saving QB so not sure how quick of a turnaround a 2 win team has just by getting him, but we'll see how his final college season plays out.

(02-19-2020, 06:22 PM)FBT Wrote: If we have to Gillooly someone to get to that top spot, it might be worth it.  I'm holding out hope that the incompetence demonstrated by this front office and coaching staff over the past decade will pave the way to landing that coveted first pick next year, although as usual, I'm sure we'll find a way to screw that up.

Just to be clear... you're hoping we lose a bunch and get the first overall pick?

Agreed, if we are gonna wish for something why not wish for Minshew to improve?
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#33

(02-20-2020, 12:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(02-20-2020, 12:35 PM)Kane Wrote: Man I started reading your prediction all excited... then you jumped on the Trevor Lawrence train...
I'm not exactly anti-Lawrence but I'm hoping for better things from Minshew and would loathe sitting through a 2 win season.
I also don't think Lawrence is a franchise saving QB so not sure how quick of a turnaround a 2 win team has just by getting him, but we'll see how his final college season plays out.


Just to be clear... you're hoping we lose a bunch and get the first overall pick?

Agreed, if we are gonna wish for something why not wish for Minshew to improve?

Indeed. I'd much rather ride the Mania (on a 6th round contract to boot) instead of sucking worse than last year in hopes that Sunshine is the answer to all of our woes.
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#34

(02-20-2020, 07:43 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote: All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.
I have almost zero faith in this front office (including ownership) to get a deal done with Yannick.  Keeping Yan, from a positional and talent standpoint, is an absolute no brainer.  This diminished faith stems from years of decent at best drafting in the Shack era, to horrific drafting under Gene Smith, to good if not great drafting under Caldwell, but an inability to retain the best players.   As time goes by, I get the abiding sense-accompanied by overwhelming nausea-Yan will be traded away, or at the very least remain absent from camp this year.  

It is my deepest hope that we keep Yan.  If my fears are realized, my desire would be to have nothing less than a 2 this year in compensation for him.  Of course I would gladly accept a first round pick next year, because I would want to package a deal to get Lawrence.

Of course, as demoralized as I am about this team's state of affairs, my hopes for the promise of the draft is diminished given how poorly this team has been mismanaged over the years.  I have never had the fear that a guy would pull an Elway, Bo Jackson or Eli Manning on us, but I fear that even if we manage to acquire enough picks to get Lawrence, he would be averse to playing here, to the point of staying another year in school or simply refusing to sign with us.  To mitigate that possibility, part of me wants to stockpile talent on the offensive side of the ball this year.  Starting with a LT, taking a WR or two, getting a couple of interior OL, and spending another mid round pick on a TE.  This way, we know for certain what we have in Foles/Minshew (assuming we hit on the picks) and if we still need Lawrence when all is said and done, he will have a better sense he would have the tools to succeed here.

Regarding the part in bold: Yes, yes, a million times yes.
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#35

(02-20-2020, 07:43 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote: All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.
I have almost zero faith in this front office (including ownership) to get a deal done with Yannick.  Keeping Yan, from a positional and talent standpoint, is an absolute no brainer.  This diminished faith stems from years of decent at best drafting in the Shack era, to horrific drafting under Gene Smith, to good if not great drafting under Caldwell, but an inability to retain the best players.   As time goes by, I get the abiding sense-accompanied by overwhelming nausea-Yan will be traded away, or at the very least remain absent from camp this year.  

It is my deepest hope that we keep Yan.  If my fears are realized, my desire would be to have nothing less than a 2 this year in compensation for him.  Of course I would gladly accept a first round pick next year, because I would want to package a deal to get Lawrence.

Of course, as demoralized as I am about this team's state of affairs, my hopes for the promise of the draft is diminished given how poorly this team has been mismanaged over the years.  I have never had the fear that a guy would pull an Elway, Bo Jackson or Eli Manning on us, but I fear that even if we manage to acquire enough picks to get Lawrence, he would be averse to playing here, to the point of staying another year in school or simply refusing to sign with us.  To mitigate that possibility, part of me wants to stockpile talent on the offensive side of the ball this year.  Starting with a LT, taking a WR or two, getting a couple of interior OL, and spending another mid round pick on a TE.  This way, we know for certain what we have in Foles/Minshew (assuming we hit on the picks) and if we still need Lawrence when all is said and done, he will have a better sense he would have the tools to succeed here.

1000% agreement here.  However, I was just listening to the mouthpiece for the team on 1010XL, Frank Frangie, and he and Dempsey seem to think a deal gets done.  Yannick is asking for 22M a year.  The team has already offered him 19M a year.  Seems like there's room for agreement here.  

I also agree that they need to take their draft capital and draft big guys to protect the QB regardless of who that is.  If we decide to stick with Minshew and Foles, and Foles wins the job back, he needs a beefy line capable of protecting the QB.  I also would expect them to explore FA for a proven TE, and to draft another one in the mid rounds as well.
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#36

(02-20-2020, 12:35 PM)Kane Wrote:
(02-19-2020, 04:31 PM)FBT Wrote: All of this seems pretty likely.  I think the team has to bite the bullet and move on from Ngakoue.  He has no intention of playing again for this team unless they back up the Brinks Truck, and this team simply can't afford to do that for a guy who is a great pass rush specialist, but a liability against the run.  I think they'll possibly franchise him and try to trade him, and if that's not successful, withdraw the tag an release him.  I don't expect to see him here for the 2020 season regardless of how that happens.

Bold prediction?  Minshew remains the starting QB, and some contending team has a significant QB injury in the preseason and we cook up a deal to get Foles off the books in a trade before the season starts.  The team then goes 2-14, and the new front office has an opportunity to draft Trevor Lawrence.

Man I started reading your prediction all excited... then you jumped on the Trevor Lawrence train...
I'm not exactly anti-Lawrence but I'm hoping for better things from Minshew and would loathe sitting through a 2 win season.
I also don't think Lawrence is a franchise saving QB so not sure how quick of a turnaround a 2 win team has just by getting him, but we'll see how his final college season plays out.

(02-19-2020, 06:22 PM)FBT Wrote: If we have to Gillooly someone to get to that top spot, it might be worth it.  I'm holding out hope that the incompetence demonstrated by this front office and coaching staff over the past decade will pave the way to landing that coveted first pick next year, although as usual, I'm sure we'll find a way to screw that up.

Just to be clear... you're hoping we lose a bunch and get the first overall pick?

Just to clarify, the bold prediction was that we'd continue to suck next year and we'd be in a position to land the top pick in the 2021 draft with the opportunity to land a guy like Lawrence.  Never said I was hoping for it.  I would much prefer that either Minshew or Foles take the next step here and become the franchise guy for this team so we don't need to worry about the QB position.
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(02-24-2020, 12:43 PM)FBT Wrote:
(02-20-2020, 12:35 PM)Kane Wrote: Man I started reading your prediction all excited... then you jumped on the Trevor Lawrence train...
I'm not exactly anti-Lawrence but I'm hoping for better things from Minshew and would loathe sitting through a 2 win season.
I also don't think Lawrence is a franchise saving QB so not sure how quick of a turnaround a 2 win team has just by getting him, but we'll see how his final college season plays out.


Just to be clear... you're hoping we lose a bunch and get the first overall pick?

Just to clarify, the bold prediction was that we'd continue to suck next year and we'd be in a position to land the top pick in the 2021 draft with the opportunity to land a guy like Lawrence.  Never said I was hoping for it.  I would much prefer that either Minshew or Foles take the next step here and become the franchise guy for this team so we don't need to worry about the QB position.

OK.
My mistake for assuming your bold prediction was something you wanted to happen lol
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#38

heres a bold prediction for you.  Knowing the jags i see this hapening even if it sounds crazy,and off the wall. 


Jags keep foles as qb,and trade minshew.




snowwolf titans owner in madden.

note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

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