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Why is Janes Revenge NOT being prosecuted?

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The radical pro-abortion group, Jane’s Revenge, is planning more acts of domestic terrorism when the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on Roe v. Wade is revealed, dubbed a “Night of Rage: An Autonomous Call to Action Against Patriarchal Supremacy.”

The group posted its plans on the Anarchists Library website at the end of May in expectation of the ruling, expected sometime in June.

Here are some excerpts from the manifesto:

This is an event that should inspire rage in millions of people who can get pregnant…and yet, the response thus far has been tepid.

We have agonized over this apparent absence of indignation. Why is it that we are so afraid to unleash hell upon those who are destroying us? Fear of state repression is valid, but this goes deeper than that.



Whatever form your fury takes, the first step is feeling it.

The next step is carrying that anger out into the world and expressing it physically.

Consider this your call to action.

On the night the final ruling is issued——a specific date we cannot yet predict, but we know is arriving imminently——we are asking for courageous hearts to come out after dark.

Whoever you are and wherever you are, we are asking for you to do what you can to make your anger known.

We have selected a time of 8 pm for actions nationwide to begin, but know that this is a general guideline. There may be other considerations involved in planning time and place. We do not claim to speak for every community or crew. We are simply calling out to you. And we hope you answer our cries.

The manifesto says that if there are any “cis males allies” who want to take part, okay, “but Do not police us. Do not tell us what is and isn’t appropriate.”

The manifesto concludes, “To those who work to oppress us: If abortion isn’t safe, you aren’t either. We are everywhere.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/...hysically/
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#22

These state AGs smell blood, prosecuting is what they do.
Link https://files.constantcontact.com/d3e83e...f?rdr=true

Anyone can write a creepy blog, even in response to Jane's Revenge.
Link https://www.janesrevenge.net/

Some of the individual groups taking credit for things have a history with the community (or with law enforcement in their community). This is sort of like with street gangs. They may know which gang did what, but when it comes down to proving who in the gang did what, that is trickier.

Historically, the FBI has said that they stay away from anarchist groups, preferring to let individual police departments do the work because they are local in their activity and makeup. Because anarchists (understandably, given their organization) aren't well organized nationally, this strategy seemed to work for them in the past. That seems to be changing with the group blogs and content aggregators used by anarchists to organize nationally and internationally. You wonder though how many of the groups have an informant as a member. Some of them at least could be expected to be infiltrated somehow. If so, the national level enforcement could be saying, "Lets wait until things escalate on both sides, then we can nab both the prolifers and the prochoicers. They'd be assuming that eventually there will be a prolife Kyle Rittenhouse.
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(06-21-2022, 03:18 PM)RedVervet29 Wrote: These state AGs smell blood, prosecuting is what they do.
Link https://files.constantcontact.com/d3e83e...f?rdr=true

Anyone can write a creepy blog, even in response to Jane's Revenge.
Link https://www.janesrevenge.net/

Some of the individual groups taking credit for things have a history with the community (or with law enforcement in their community). This is sort of like with street gangs. They may know which gang did what, but when it comes down to proving who in the gang did what, that is trickier.

Historically, the FBI has said that they stay away from anarchist groups, preferring to let individual police departments do the work because they are local in their activity and makeup. Because anarchists (understandably, given their organization) aren't well organized nationally, this strategy seemed to work for them in the past. That seems to be changing with the group blogs and content aggregators used by anarchists to organize nationally and internationally. You wonder though how many of the groups have an informant as a member. Some of them at least could be expected to be infiltrated somehow. If so, the national level enforcement could be saying, "Lets wait until things escalate on both sides, then we can nab both the prolifers and the prochoicers. They'd be assuming that eventually there will be a prolife Kyle Rittenhouse.



hmmm, interesting. So are they saying they are going to wait for someone to get hurt really bad before they act? I mean, the threats are pretty serious sounding. You would think broadcasting threats like this would be a crime in of itself. What am missing?
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(This post was last modified: 06-21-2022, 08:23 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 2 times in total.)

(06-21-2022, 06:25 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(06-21-2022, 03:18 PM)RedVervet29 Wrote: These state AGs smell blood, prosecuting is what they do.
Link https://files.constantcontact.com/d3e83e...f?rdr=true

Anyone can write a creepy blog, even in response to Jane's Revenge.
Link https://www.janesrevenge.net/

Some of the individual groups taking credit for things have a history with the community (or with law enforcement in their community). This is sort of like with street gangs. They may know which gang did what, but when it comes down to proving who in the gang did what, that is trickier.

Historically, the FBI has said that they stay away from anarchist groups, preferring to let individual police departments do the work because they are local in their activity and makeup. Because anarchists (understandably, given their organization) aren't well organized nationally, this strategy seemed to work for them in the past. That seems to be changing with the group blogs and content aggregators used by anarchists to organize nationally and internationally. You wonder though how many of the groups have an informant as a member. Some of them at least could be expected to be infiltrated somehow. If so, the national level enforcement could be saying, "Lets wait until things escalate on both sides, then we can nab both the prolifers and the prochoicers. They'd be assuming that eventually there will be a prolife Kyle Rittenhouse.



hmmm, interesting. So are they saying they are going to wait for someone to get hurt really bad before they act? I mean, the threats are pretty serious sounding. You would think broadcasting threats like this would be a crime in of itself. What am missing?

If they had threatened to shoot up a school using this language, they would already be charged and in jail.
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(This post was last modified: 06-22-2022, 01:48 PM by RedVervet29. Edited 6 times in total.)

That is all very true. When the FBI has informants in a group, they sometimes take a wait-and-see approach. Like with the militia members who wanted to go after the governor in Michigan. I read somewhere that at one point, there were four men in a car. Three of them were informants, and didn't necessarily know that the others weren't informants. They weren't arrested right away, the FBI waited on it to let it develop and to get more evidence. If this sounds like playing with fire it is, and sometimes things go wrong. The "Family Jewels" CIA release included some times informants did bad things, that in theory could have been prevented: https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm .

The one I remember was a CIA informant who was caught doing something with explosives on an airplane. If he is already on an airplane with explosives, that's too late, he should have been arrested already. Being an informant shouldn't be a 007 license to get away with crime.

The political side of it is that if prolifers can be goaded into reacting, the pregnancy clinics would be blamed for luring unwanted tourists ( Jane's Revenge/Antifa ) to their neighborhood, and for the resulting conflict between them and prolifers. This could be used to justify legislation against them, such as this

liberal https://www.gothamgazette.com/676-bill-s...cy-centers

conservative https://www.nyscatholic.org/pregnancy-centers-study/

If the FBI arrests people on both sides at the same time, it wouldn't get the leadership cancelled. I think that if the FBI had cracked down on Jane's Revenge right away, by now we'd be seeing calls to defund them and that their leadership was misogynist with demonstrably partisan enforcement. Broadcasting threats is a crime, and so is privately phoning them in. The missing part is that local law enforcement is constrained by their resources, and the FBI has historically left anarchists to local law enforcement.

This isn't just Jane's Revenge, it is also eco-anarchists
https://defendtheatlantaforest.org/

I would be surprised if there wasn't overlap between the two groups. Their messages go to the same websites. Why haven't they been stopped yet? Some of the same factors why Jane's Revenge hasn't been stopped. They seem to be the same folks who got addicted to a certain lifestyle in the months before the 2020 election. Still seeking the same thrill from their actions.
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#26

Jane's done with Sergio because he treats her like a rag doll.
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#27

She walks up on St. Andrews https://alaskawatchman.com/2022/05/04/ea...c-symbols/
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