Realistically I think this team can backfill the nickel CB spot in RD3 or later (Riley Moss from Iowa, Garrett Williams from Syracuse) if Darious Williams continues to shine on the outside opposite of Campbell. I am all for them going offensive line and defensive line early. Hope they tag or resign Engram though. Just one less position to worry about.

Unfortunately, we've only got a 3 game sample on Williams outside. So, as you mentioned, how he continues to play is huge.

Would be really great for him to finish strong and let us focus on nickel and depth at CB instead of a counterpart to Campbell. 

If that works out, I'm going IDL, IOL, TE, CB3/Nickel  in some combination early in the draft should value present itself accordingly. Hopefully in that order, but the draft rarely cooperates that smoothly. 

The TE pick I list could be altered by free agency. If they strike a deal with Engram, and land a cheap phone booth blocker in FA, that pick could be a number of positions.

Williams playing outside worked out well, and Pederson has commented it will continue in 2023. (per multiple beat guys on twitter) 

So - that leaves us waiting to see what free agency brings and it leaves me seeing need at :

NB
IOL
IDL
TE*
OT*
SS*

*free agency and cap casualties likely decide if we draft depth or potential starter at these positions

Free agency looms large.  Would be great to have starters at 3 of these six spots sorted prior to draft. 

If it goes the way I think it will, IOL, IDL and Nickel will be the spots we seek starters for in the draft and that feels very do-able at the moment. 
(to be clear the IDL player should be a pass rusher/disruptor and will be a rotational player, technically) 

I still don't see WR being targeted prior to the fifth round unless a player falls who represents value too good to pass on. 
They should be able to find good value at their picks fitting the actual needs of the team without reaching too far.

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Unfortunately, we've only got a 3 game sample on Williams outside. So, as you mentioned, how he continues to play is huge.

Would be really great for him to finish strong and let us focus on nickel and depth at CB instead of a counterpart to Campbell. 

If that works out, I'm going IDL, IOL, TE, CB3/Nickel  in some combination early in the draft should value present itself accordingly. Hopefully in that order, but the draft rarely cooperates that smoothly. 

The TE pick I list could be altered by free agency. If they strike a deal with Engram, and land a cheap phone booth blocker in FA, that pick could be a number of positions.

Williams playing outside worked out well, and Pederson has commented it will continue in 2023. (per multiple beat guys on twitter) 

So - that leaves us waiting to see what free agency brings and it leaves me seeing need at :

NB
IOL
IDL
TE*
OT*
SS*

*free agency and cap casualties likely decide if we draft depth or potential starter at these positions

Free agency looms large.  Would be great to have starters at 3 of these six spots sorted prior to draft. 

If it goes the way I think it will, IOL, IDL and Nickel will be the spots we seek starters for in the draft and that feels very do-able at the moment. 
(to be clear the IDL player should be a pass rusher/disruptor and will be a rotational player, technically) 

I still don't see WR being targeted prior to the fifth round unless a player falls who represents value too good to pass on. 
They should be able to find good value at their picks fitting the actual needs of the team without reaching too far.

I totally agree with the need to seek immediate starters in the draft at IOL and nickel. As you said, they should be able to find good value at both these positions sometime during the first 3 rounds.

With regard to IDL, I'm not so sure it will be easy to find someone who can add much to the team's already poor pass rush. Other than Calijah Kancey, who'd be a great 2nd round pick, what other IDL can be expected to effectively rush the passer? Most of the other top players at this position, with the possible exceptions of Bryan Breese and Gervin Dexter, are better at stopping the run and I'm not sure they'd be much better than what the team already has at that position (Fatukasi and Hamilton). That being said, I'd love for the Jaguars to sign Daron Payne in free agency. He would be worth whatever deal he gets if he continues to play at the same level as last season.

Edge rusher was not one of your top priorities. If the team continues to use primarily a 3-4 base defense, I believe they need to add another Edge rusher since Trevon Walker did not show enough in his rookie season for me to believe that this will be his best position. It wouldn't surprise me if he eventually became a pro-bowler due to his strength and athleticism, but that would be while playing on the defensive line where he could play both DE and DT- depending on the situation. There should be excellent value in the 2nd round round for getting an Edge rusher. Felix Uzomah, B'J' Ojulari, Will McDonald, Keion White and Derrick Hall have all demonstrating excellent pass rushing skills in college and at least one should be available at pick 56. 

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this and thanks for the excellent tape on our offensive line. It has certainly reinforced my belief that the line must get much better in 2023-24.

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Williams playing outside worked out well, and Pederson has commented it will continue in 2023. (per multiple beat guys on twitter) 

So - that leaves us waiting to see what free agency brings and it leaves me seeing need at :

NB
IOL
IDL
TE*
OT*
SS*

*free agency and cap casualties likely decide if we draft depth or potential starter at these positions

Free agency looms large.  Would be great to have starters at 3 of these six spots sorted prior to draft. 

If it goes the way I think it will, IOL, IDL and Nickel will be the spots we seek starters for in the draft and that feels very do-able at the moment. 
(to be clear the IDL player should be a pass rusher/disruptor and will be a rotational player, technically) 

I still don't see WR being targeted prior to the fifth round unless a player falls who represents value too good to pass on. 
They should be able to find good value at their picks fitting the actual needs of the team without reaching too far.

I totally agree with the need to seek immediate starters in the draft at IOL and nickel. As you said, they should be able to find good value at both these positions sometime during the first 3 rounds.

With regard to IDL, I'm not so sure it will be easy to find someone who can add much to the team's already poor pass rush. Other than Calijah Kancey, who'd be a great 2nd round pick, what other IDL can be expected to effectively rush the passer? Most of the other top players at this position, with the possible exceptions of Bryan Breese and Gervin Dexter, are better at stopping the run and I'm not sure they'd be much better than what the team already has at that position (Fatukasi and Hamilton). That being said, I'd love for the Jaguars to sign Daron Payne in free agency. He would be worth whatever deal he gets if he continues to play at the same level as last season.

Edge rusher was not one of your top priorities. If the team continues to use primarily a 3-4 base defense, I believe they need to add another Edge rusher since Trevon Walker did not show enough in his rookie season for me to believe that this will be his best position. It wouldn't surprise me if he eventually became a pro-bowler due to his strength and athleticism, but that would be while playing on the defensive line where he could play both DE and DT- depending on the situation. There should be excellent value in the 2nd round round for getting an Edge rusher. Felix Uzomah, B'J' Ojulari, Will McDonald, Keion White and Derrick Hall have all demonstrating excellent pass rushing skills in college and at least one should be available at pick 56. 

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this and thanks for the excellent tape on our offensive line. It has certainly reinforced my belief that the line must get much better in 2023-24.

Thank you.

Regarding IDL, I don't have a complete picture on prospects and their traits/abilities just yet. Work is crazy these days and my armchair GM time is limited. 
And I agree it won't be an easy find. It usually isn't easy and the good ones are gone quick or they are dark horses no one saw coming. That's one reason why I mentioned this prospect being a rotational player. Sort of a disruption and pass rush specialist at DT or 3-4 end. Not expecting the next Aaron Donald to be there, but a guy that can disrupt A and B gaps more consistently than what we had last season from individual players - even if he's not all the way there as a rookie. 

On that note - intended scheme or alterations to the current scheme are going to go a looooong way to deciding how this goes down. We don't really know yet if we are staying the course, making a few tweaks, or revamping our mix of fronts. 

Regarding outside pass rush, I'm being more conservative/optimistic in my approach than many are. 
I thought I could see a difference in our pass rush getting closer after Williams moved outside toward the end of the season. 
I think the addition of a quality nickel will initiate yet another improvement in our pressures, knockdowns, and ultimately sacks. 
I'm not putting it all on the secondary by any stretch, Walker has to be better in year two, and Allen needs to make his "good weeks" happen more consistently.  I'm hoping we find a way to keep Key and draft a developmental guy in mid rounds that may be sifted into the rotation judiciously after the bye week or so. 
It's a need, it just doesn't feel as dire to me as the others I have ahead of it. My approach depends on Walker having more impact, and that's a gamble I'm aware of. 
Obviously the IDL guy I'm coveting would aid our EDGE/DE guys in their efforts as well by flushing QBs to them more often. 

RE: Walker
I'm not one that sees him as a 3-4 end/DT type. 
I think he's a 4-3 DE that can still succeed at 3-4 OLB and occasional third down 3-4 end/3-tech if he develops like our staff hoped he would when they drafted him. Fingers crossed.

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I totally agree with the need to seek immediate starters in the draft at IOL and nickel. As you said, they should be able to find good value at both these positions sometime during the first 3 rounds.

With regard to IDL, I'm not so sure it will be easy to find someone who can add much to the team's already poor pass rush. Other than Calijah Kancey, who'd be a great 2nd round pick, what other IDL can be expected to effectively rush the passer? Most of the other top players at this position, with the possible exceptions of Bryan Breese and Gervin Dexter, are better at stopping the run and I'm not sure they'd be much better than what the team already has at that position (Fatukasi and Hamilton). That being said, I'd love for the Jaguars to sign Daron Payne in free agency. He would be worth whatever deal he gets if he continues to play at the same level as last season.

Edge rusher was not one of your top priorities. If the team continues to use primarily a 3-4 base defense, I believe they need to add another Edge rusher since Trevon Walker did not show enough in his rookie season for me to believe that this will be his best position. It wouldn't surprise me if he eventually became a pro-bowler due to his strength and athleticism, but that would be while playing on the defensive line where he could play both DE and DT- depending on the situation. There should be excellent value in the 2nd round round for getting an Edge rusher. Felix Uzomah, B'J' Ojulari, Will McDonald, Keion White and Derrick Hall have all demonstrating excellent pass rushing skills in college and at least one should be available at pick 56. 

I'd be interested in your thoughts on this and thanks for the excellent tape on our offensive line. It has certainly reinforced my belief that the line must get much better in 2023-24.

Thank you.

Regarding IDL, I don't have a complete picture on prospects and their traits/abilities just yet. Work is crazy these days and my armchair GM time is limited. 
And I agree it won't be an easy find. It usually isn't easy and the good ones are gone quick or they are dark horses no one saw coming. That's one reason why I mentioned this prospect being a rotational player. Sort of a disruption and pass rush specialist at DT or 3-4 end. Not expecting the next Aaron Donald to be there, but a guy that can disrupt A and B gaps more consistently than what we had last season from individual players - even if he's not all the way there as a rookie. 

On that note - intended scheme or alterations to the current scheme are going to go a looooong way to deciding how this goes down. We don't really know yet if we are staying the course, making a few tweaks, or revamping our mix of fronts. 

Regarding outside pass rush, I'm being more conservative/optimistic in my approach than many are. 
I thought I could see a difference in our pass rush getting closer after Williams moved outside toward the end of the season. 
I think the addition of a quality nickel will initiate yet another improvement in our pressures, knockdowns, and ultimately sacks. 
I'm not putting it all on the secondary by any stretch, Walker has to be better in year two, and Allen needs to make his "good weeks" happen more consistently.  I'm hoping we find a way to keep Key and draft a developmental guy in mid rounds that may be sifted into the rotation judiciously after the bye week or so. 
It's a need, it just doesn't feel as dire to me as the others I have ahead of it. My approach depends on Walker having more impact, and that's a gamble I'm aware of. 
Obviously the IDL guy I'm coveting would aid our EDGE/DE guys in their efforts as well by flushing QBs to them more often. 

RE: Walker
I'm not one that sees him as a 3-4 end/DT type. 
I think he's a 4-3 DE that can still succeed at 3-4 OLB and occasional third down 3-4 end/3-tech if he develops like our staff hoped he would when they drafted him. Fingers crossed.

Hope you are right regarding the pass rush. I also hope that they re-sign Key. Regardless of where they play Walker, my expectations are for him to at least double his 3.5 sack total from his rookie season. I also believe Lloyd will be utilized more as a pass rusher/blitzer once the game slows down for him next season.

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After watching the Super Bowl my belief that we need to find someone who can cover Kelce and other TEs has only increased. I understand the need to protect Trevor, but Doug has shown that we can make good gameplans and Trevor can get the ball out quickly enough to avoid many hits. The IDL I see people think we need to address, but I simply don’t understand that part of the game beyond knowing that we must stop Derrick Henry to get to the playoffs, so I trust you there.

My top priorities would therefore be NB, IDL, IOL.

TE will be a factor unless we get Engram back. There are several mock drafts that have us going for this position. I would like to see Engram back, especially since he came on a ‘prove-it’ contract, but I don’t know if he had a breakout season or if it was just a fluke. He simply hasn’t shown enough over time for me to be sure. I hope for his sake that he has cracked the codes to go on to have a great career, but I don’t know enough of the circumstances under which he has failed previouslt. Makes me wonder if Doug is a coach who knows how to optimize TEs within his schemes and so can do it with other players too?

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After watching the Super Bowl my belief that we need to find someone who can cover Kelce and other TEs has only increased. I understand the need to protect Trevor, but Doug has shown that we can make good gameplans and Trevor can get the ball out quickly enough to avoid many hits. The IDL I see people think we need to address, but I simply don’t understand that part of the game beyond knowing that we must stop Derrick Henry to get to the playoffs, so I trust you there.

My top priorities would therefore be NB, IDL, IOL.

TE will be a factor unless we get Engram back. There are several mock drafts that have us going for this position. I would like to see Engram back, especially since he came on a ‘prove-it’ contract, but I don’t know if he had a breakout season or if it was just a fluke. He simply hasn’t shown enough over time for me to be sure. I hope for his sake that he has cracked the codes to go on to have a great career, but I don’t know enough of the circumstances under which he has failed previouslt. Makes me wonder if Doug is a coach who knows how to optimize TEs within his schemes and so can do it with other players too?

Meh. Kelce is a generational talent at his position and his production on the field has been amplified due to another generational talent in Mahomes getting him the football. We need offensive lineman and defensive lineman. Hard to find Kelce in the passing game when you're too busy with your [BLEEP] in the dirty and looking up from the turf. 

Pederson's past experience in Philly with the TE position and his first year here with the WR group tells me that he's just a damn good football coach that knows how to maximize and scheme around the talent he has at his disposal. Philly kept pace with the KC last night because they kept putting points on the board.

If Hurts doesn't spot them an easy 7 early with the fumble rumble for a TD it's a different ball game more than likely. What I saw last night though was two very, very, very good lines at work for both offenses and at times defenses. We need guys like Kelce (Center) and Johnson (Tackle) along with guys like Riddick, Jones, Cox, etc. on defense. 

I know the game has evolved over time but the same basic principles apply. This game and sport is won in the trenches. Period. If you can't hold up in pass protection or get after the QB and attack their pass protection? Your game plan might as well be in the [BLEEP] with you.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

For me it is still our biggest need is IOL so here goes:
In the draft
IOL
Nickel
Edge/OLB or TE whatever best value is there
IDL
S
WR
In FA
Resign Engram, Smoot and Taylor if possible
Add RB
Add Dline
What we can do in FA, which will depend on what we can restructure as well, will shape the draft goals but that seems to me the priorities right now. With Ridley coming on board I just don't see a need to spend a lot of capital at that position. so depth for the secondary and linebackers should fill out the bottom of the draft

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For me it is still our biggest need is IOL so here goes:
In the draft
IOL
Nickel
Edge/OLB or TE whatever best value is there
IDL
S
WR
In FA
Resign Engram, Smoot and Taylor if possible
Add  RB
Add Dline
What  we can do in FA, which will depend on what we can restructure as well,  will shape the draft goals but that seems to me the priorities right now. With Ridley coming on board I just don't see a need to spend a lot of capital at that position. so depth for the secondary and linebackers should fill out the bottom of the draft

Your free agency wish list is working out pretty well so far. DL adds haven't been landmark signings - but it appears they've cleared space for one more move and Calais is still out there...

Regarding your draft wish list, I really hope those top 4 lines happen in some shape or fashion. 
I'd love to know how Pederson and Baalke really feel about the O-Line. 
It's near impossible to figure how they will address it IMO since they really haven't been openly critical or expressed clear interest in upgrading or adding to any position there. 
Hopefully the cards held close to their vest prove beneficial in a few weeks time.

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Dave Campo just said (on 1010XL)that his top needs he would address at #24 are in order:

OT
EDGE
Cover CB

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Dave Campo just said (on 1010XL)that his top needs he would address at #24 are in order:

OT
EDGE
Cover CB

Yep. That's my exact stance and I am sure most of us on here would agree. Protecting Lawrence should always take priority at this point. Of course, all of that is based on value and how the draftboard lines up. 

I am all for us trading down though if a top OT is not there. This is a good enough draft class to where once you get past the top twenty, the next thirty or so some odd prospects fall into an interesting, splitting hairs type of grading for me. 

I will be disappointed as hell if they take Bresee though. Can't stress that enough. If there's an opportunity to trade down? I take it. If there is not a chance of trading down? I don't take Bresee. I would rather reach at that point for an early 2nd RD Tackle or edge.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Dave Campo just said (on 1010XL)that his top needs he would address at #24 are in order:

OT
EDGE
Cover CB

Campo just said he would take a TE if he had a higher grade.  Mentioned Mayer

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G is a higher need than T imo

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Dave Campo just said (on 1010XL)that his top needs he would address at #24 are in order:

OT
EDGE
Cover CB

Campo just said he would take a TE if he had a higher grade.  Mentioned Mayer

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G is a higher need than T imo

Not what I heard. In fact he mentioned TEs being available in later rounds.

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Campo just said he would take a TE if he had a higher grade.  Mentioned Mayer

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G is a higher need than T imo

Not what I heard. In fact he mentioned TEs being available in later rounds.

It was after him talking about he wanted a tackle or edge if grades were equal.  Then he went on to say if a TE like Mayer was higher on his board he would take the TE., but if Murphy had the same grade as Mayer, he said he would take Murphy

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Not what I heard. In fact he mentioned TEs being available in later rounds.

It was after him talking about he wanted a tackle or edge if grades were equal.  Then he went on to say if a TE like Mayer was higher on his board he would take the TE., but if Murphy had the same grade as Mayer, he said he would take Murphy

https://1010xl.com/listen-2/

Campo quotes:

"I think one of those two tackles is gonna be there..."

"Big guys first if they're there..."

When asked about taking a defender early he said "if a great offensive player is there - you take him, but ..." 
No mention of TE in that. 

He later describes how dire he thinks the OT situation is to reiterate it as the top priority. 
"You don't know where Cam's gonna be and you may have a guy going to RT you aren't sure of on the right side"
And he describes how corners are gonna be there in the second but only a few are worthy of the #24 pick. 

Mia then told him about McShay's mock where that Jags took Mayer at #24 with Banks, Branch and others on the board and his immediate response was "Well, I wouldn't do that."  PLUS what I've been preaching to you for years:
"after 18 they're kind-of all the same guy. So at #24 I've got 5 or 6 guys in a package that all have similar grades. I'm taking the guy that's gonna help my football team right now." 

LOL

He also says if Myles Murphy is there and Mayer is there, he's taking Murphy.

He's taking a similarly rated player of need over a similarly rated player that may be technically graded higher. 
Just like every front office does every single year on many of their picks.

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In this clip he spells out the part you are confused about:
He's only taking Mayer at 24 if he's rated at 15th on your board and the others (that are greater needs)  are rated much lower. 

https://twitter.com/1010XL/status/164842...18976?s=20

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It was after him talking about he wanted a tackle or edge if grades were equal.  Then he went on to say if a TE like Mayer was higher on his board he would take the TE., but if Murphy had the same grade as Mayer, he said he would take Murphy

https://1010xl.com/listen-2/

Campo quotes:

"I think one of those two tackles is gonna be there..."

"Big guys first if they're there..."

When asked about taking a defender early he said "if a great offensive player is there - you take him, but ..." 
No mention of TE in that. 

He later describes how dire he thinks the OT situation is to reiterate it as the top priority. 
"You don't know where Cam's gonna be and you may have a guy going to RT you aren't sure of on the right side"
And he describes how corners are gonna be there in the second but only a few are worthy of the #24 pick. 

Mia then told him about McShay's mock where that Jags took Mayer at #24 with Banks, Branch and others on the board and his immediate response was "Well, I wouldn't do that."  PLUS what I've been preaching to you for years:
"after 18 they're kind-of all the same guy. So at #24 I've got 5 or 6 guys in a package that all have similar grades. I'm taking the guy that's gonna help my football team right now." 

LOL

He also says if Myles Murphy is there and Mayer is there, he's taking Murphy.

He's taking a similarly rated player of need over a similarly rated player that may be technically graded higher. 
Just like every front office does every single year on many of their picks.

If you have an equal grade like hes saying sure, take the bigger need.  Then he goes on to say hes going by grade.  He used Mayer, a TE for example if is rated higher he would take Mayer.  As I said, if a TE is the highest rated player you take the TE.  If i have a pass rusher with an equal grade as a TE im going pass rusher.

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In this clip he spells out the part you are confused about:
He's only taking Mayer at 24 if he's rated at 15th on your board and the others (that are greater needs)  are rated much lower. 

https://twitter.com/1010XL/status/164842...18976?s=20

I agree ,if the grades are equal take the bigger need. If the TE has a higher grade take the TE. He was just using 15 as an example as an example man. So you think if Mayer was 16 on Campo's board he wouldn't take the TE?

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In this clip he spells out the part you are confused about:
He's only taking Mayer at 24 if he's rated at 15th on your board and the others (that are greater needs)  are rated much lower. 

https://twitter.com/1010XL/status/164842...18976?s=20

I agree ,if the grades are equal take the bigger need. If the TE has a higher grade take the TE. He was just using 15 as an example as an example man. So you think if Mayer was 16 on Campo's board he wouldn't take the TE?

LOL

EQUAL?? 

That is your word. 
I said "similar" and Campo said "similar." 
Get it straight - since you've tried to tell me this is wrong for several years. 

I think a TE coming in at 24 over the needs Campo clearly expressed would have to be rated substantially higher on his board. 15, 16 whatever. He's already on board saying he's not taking Mayer over Banks, Branch or Murphy, so we know Mayer isn't that high on his board.

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