Wasn't the word after the draft that we didn't actually talk to him?  Or do a full scouting report on him as a person?  I remember hearing something about that and just couldn't believe we'd invest a first round draft pick and all that money on a guy that you don't do a full background review.  Obviously scout the guy as a football player but then understand the person you are getting.  Personality type, what drives them on and off the field, etc...

It was purely a spite pick from Caldwell. Remember what had happened with Ramsey the season before. Caldwell drafted a first round talent from a rival of Ramsey's college team... coincidence? nah. I mean I know he made it a point to take players from FL schools, but this pick was purely motivated by spite.

Looking like Stretch Armstrong with reaches like this.

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I honestly didn't know who he was leading up into that draft. Wanted nothing to do with him. I wanted Tristan Wirfs there. Same thing with Chaisson. Honestly didn't know a lot about him neither. Wanted CeeDee Lamb out of that WR class or Michael Pittman Jr. because of his size and bloodline.

I knew who he was, just because CB was a position of need. Agreed that I wanted Wirfs over him too, but when the pick came in it was patently obvious that Caldwell was grabbing needs early (and continued to do so)

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You should have been GM.  A couple of dreadful misses by Caldwell.

It was just an odd decision. We went into 2020 clearly committing to Minshew at QB after his surprise 6 - 6 record as a starter in a pinch in 2019. Why would you NOT take a lineman or receiver to give him more of an opportunity. 

They panicked and backfilled immediately. Henderson for Ramsey. Chaisson for Ngakoue. Caldwell should have been shown the door along with Coughlin. Hell, the reason Coughlin was hired here in the first place was because Caldwell clearly had failed developing a roster and competent coaching staff.

Ah well. What's done is done. Things are looking up now at least.

Absolutely.  I wanted Caldwell gone in 2020 (and actually many seasons earlier).  However, keep in mind that if we drafted well in 2020, we very likely win more games and don't get Trevor Lawrence.  It was actually a blessing in disguise.

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https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1653...05569?s=20

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What a waste.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Has anyone seen the police video when CJ got pulled over (for being black)? He handled himself perfectly. I must admit that while I cannot stand that dude for his lack of effort, at least he did 1 thing very respectable in the past 4 years.

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Has anyone seen the police video when CJ got pulled over (for being black)?  He handled himself perfectly.  I must admit that while I cannot stand that dude for his lack of effort, at least he did 1 thing very respectable in the past 4 years.

Lol he got pulled over because his tint is black

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Your beliefs become your thoughts,
Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny.

Who did we draft with the 3rd round pick we got for him? Sorry for the laziness…

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Who did we draft with the 3rd round pick we got for him? Sorry for the laziness…

Chad Muma

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Who did we draft with the 3rd round pick we got for him? Sorry for the laziness…

Chad Muma

Who will hopefully be a good player for years to come.

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