Some of the Capitol police did questionable things.  And there is such a thing as a strategic retreat. 
 Others were beaten up for trying to do the right thing.  The insurrectionists mostly wanted to disobey the police and most of the police pushed and shoved to stop them.
Some of the insurrectionists had guns.  One was convicted of it.  They did not go through metal detectors, so no one knows how many more had guns.  It would be foolish to assume none did, just as it would be foolish to assume all did.
Finally, we know they were insurrectionists because we know they wanted to capture and kill members of the government, or, at least, create enough chaos with the threat that those people would run and stop doing their jobs.  And on that day and at that time their jobs were critical to the continuity of the federal government.  On a different day, the same actions would not be discussed as much.  But we both know what they wanted to do, even if only one of us admits it.

Good ole reliable mikesez.. Throw him a fact and he dances around it. It's expected and funny lol

Dance, word-salad boy!!

Perfect!  Mikesez shall now be known for ever as WSB or word salad boy?  +1

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Some of the Capitol police did questionable things.  And there is such a thing as a strategic retreat. 
 Others were beaten up for trying to do the right thing.  The insurrectionists mostly wanted to disobey the police and most of the police pushed and shoved to stop them.
Some of the insurrectionists had guns.  One was convicted of it.  They did not go through metal detectors, so no one knows how many more had guns.  It would be foolish to assume none did, just as it would be foolish to assume all did.
Finally, we know they were insurrectionists because we know they wanted to capture and kill members of the government, or, at least, create enough chaos with the threat that those people would run and stop doing their jobs.  And on that day and at that time their jobs were critical to the continuity of the federal government.  On a different day, the same actions would not be discussed as much.  But we both know what they wanted to do, even if only one of us admits it.

Good ole reliable mikesez.. Throw him a fact and he dances around it. It's expected and funny lol

Dance, word-salad boy!!

I'm using small words on purpose.
Just for you, I out it through a checker.

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Guess I need to knock off a few more years for you?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Did you get that from wiki?

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Good ole reliable mikesez.. Throw him a fact and he dances around it. It's expected and funny lol

Dance, word-salad boy!!

I'm using small words on purpose.
Just for you, I out it through a checker.

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Guess I need to knock off a few more years for you?

Just because it's readable doesn't mean it makes sense. You are very good at using many words to say nothing WSB.

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I'm using small words on purpose.
Just for you, I out it through a checker.



Guess I need to knock off a few more years for you?

Just because it's readable doesn't mean it makes sense. You are very good at using many words to say nothing WSB.

It doesn't make sense to you because you don't want it to make sense.  You resist explanations that would be hard to integrate to your worldview.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Just because it's readable doesn't mean it makes sense. You are very good at using many words to say nothing WSB.

It doesn't make sense to you because you don't want it to make sense.  You resist explanations that would be hard to integrate to your worldview.

So says the guy who routinely supports his arguments by utilizing word definitions unknown to the folks at Webster's.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

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Good thing that readability consensus calculator can't understand context. I'm pretty sure it would laugh its [BLEEP] off at "strategic retreat."

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Good thing that readability consensus calculator can't understand context. I'm pretty sure it would laugh its [BLEEP] off at "strategic retreat."

Do you mean "Get out of here before we get our butts kicked." isn't a strategy?

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

I'm saying the cops didn't "strategically retreat." It's laughable how he completely reframes narratives to suit his arguments.

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The cops literally just opened up barricades and stepped aside. The politicians just moved to a different building. Thousands upon thousands of "insurrectionists" went from, "let's kill all these politicians and burn this to the ground so we can install our own leader, but instead took a leisurely stroll through the Capitol building and then WENT HOME of their own accord, all thanks to the masterful "strategic retreat." Lol.

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I'm saying the cops didn't "strategically retreat." It's laughable how he completely reframes narratives to suit his arguments.

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The cops literally just opened up barricades and stepped aside. The politicians just moved to a different building. Thousands upon thousands of "insurrectionists" went from, "let's kill all these politicians and burn this to the ground so we can install our own leader, but instead took a leisurely stroll through the Capitol building and then WENT HOME of their own accord, all thanks to the masterful "strategic retreat." Lol.

The insurectionists believed that they would be able to change the behavior of, or dispose of, the speaker and the vice president with fists alone.  
They believed that at some point some of the police and national guard and secret service would switch sides.  
They believed that the President would continue to encourage this chaos and that eventually they would have to bring in their weapons (which were close at hand) to make sure the pro-Trump cops won over the pro-Constitution cops.
They went home for two reasons.  The "strategic retreat" is not one of them. One, one of them got shot and died.  Most of them weren't willing to die and few of them had guns of their own.  They suspected that some of the cops might shoot at them, but, they figured that by that point the President would have recruited at least some of the cops/national guards to their side.  Which brings us to two, the President, for reasons that remain mysterious,  abandoned the plan about two hours in.

Now, why did it go down like that?  Why did Trump suddenly go from lion to lamb? Two reasons seem likely, but there may be others.
One, Pence's Secret Service ordered Pence back to his residence.  Pence refused, and the Secret Service blinked.  Pence knew that once he was off Capitol grounds, Trump would say that the Constitution was disrupted or suspended or whatever.  Pence knew that the officers telling him to leave had no intention of bringing him back anytime soon.  We know about this.  Pence says it happened.
Two, and we know less about this, but the acting Secretary of Defense made it clear to Trump that he wouldn't go along with Trump's attempt to declare martial law.  The VA and MD national guards were on their way and the Secretary wasn't stopping them.  Trump knew that he didn't have enough of the army on his side.

So yes, this very serious threat to the Constitution was thwarted at multiple levels,  but it was still a very serious threat.  An insurrection doesn't have to be successful to earn the name.  And attempted murder might not be successful, but it's still a crime.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I'm saying the cops didn't "strategically retreat." It's laughable how he completely reframes narratives to suit his arguments.

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The cops literally just opened up barricades and stepped aside. The politicians just moved to a different building. Thousands upon thousands of "insurrectionists" went from, "let's kill all these politicians and burn this to the ground so we can install our own leader, but instead took a leisurely stroll through the Capitol building and then WENT HOME of their own accord, all thanks to the masterful "strategic retreat." Lol.

The insurectionists believed that they would be able to change the behavior of, or dispose of, the speaker and the vice president with fists alone.  
They believed that at some point some of the police and national guard and secret service would switch sides.  
They believed that the President would continue to encourage this chaos and that eventually they would have to bring in their weapons (which were close at hand) to make sure the pro-Trump cops won over the pro-Constitution cops.
They went home for two reasons.  The "strategic retreat" is not one of them. One, one of them got shot and died.  Most of them weren't willing to die and few of them had guns of their own.  They suspected that some of the cops might shoot at them, but, they figured that by that point the President would have recruited at least some of the cops/national guards to their side.  Which brings us to two, the President, for reasons that remain mysterious,  abandoned the plan about two hours in.

Now, why did it go down like that?  Why did Trump suddenly go from lion to lamb? Two reasons seem likely, but there may be others.
One, Pence's Secret Service ordered Pence back to his residence.  Pence refused, and the Secret Service blinked.  Pence knew that once he was off Capitol grounds, Trump would say that the Constitution was disrupted or suspended or whatever.  Pence knew that the officers telling him to leave had no intention of bringing him back anytime soon.  We know about this.  Pence says it happened.
Two, and we know less about this, but the acting Secretary of Defense made it clear to Trump that he wouldn't go along with Trump's attempt to declare martial law.  The VA and MD national guards were on their way and the Secretary wasn't stopping them.  Trump knew that he didn't have enough of the army on his side.

So yes, this very serious threat to the Constitution was thwarted at multiple levels,  but it was still a very serious threat.  An insurrection doesn't have to be successful to earn the name.  And attempted murder might not be successful, but it's still a crime.

You're like a very poor man's imitation of Tom Clancy, without the skills or reasoning.

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The insurectionists believed that they would be able to change the behavior of, or dispose of, the speaker and the vice president with fists alone.  
They believed that at some point some of the police and national guard and secret service would switch sides.  
They believed that the President would continue to encourage this chaos and that eventually they would have to bring in their weapons (which were close at hand) to make sure the pro-Trump cops won over the pro-Constitution cops.
They went home for two reasons.  The "strategic retreat" is not one of them. One, one of them got shot and died.  Most of them weren't willing to die and few of them had guns of their own.  They suspected that some of the cops might shoot at them, but, they figured that by that point the President would have recruited at least some of the cops/national guards to their side.  Which brings us to two, the President, for reasons that remain mysterious,  abandoned the plan about two hours in.

Now, why did it go down like that?  Why did Trump suddenly go from lion to lamb? Two reasons seem likely, but there may be others.
One, Pence's Secret Service ordered Pence back to his residence.  Pence refused, and the Secret Service blinked.  Pence knew that once he was off Capitol grounds, Trump would say that the Constitution was disrupted or suspended or whatever.  Pence knew that the officers telling him to leave had no intention of bringing him back anytime soon.  We know about this.  Pence says it happened.
Two, and we know less about this, but the acting Secretary of Defense made it clear to Trump that he wouldn't go along with Trump's attempt to declare martial law.  The VA and MD national guards were on their way and the Secretary wasn't stopping them.  Trump knew that he didn't have enough of the army on his side.

So yes, this very serious threat to the Constitution was thwarted at multiple levels,  but it was still a very serious threat.  An insurrection doesn't have to be successful to earn the name.  And attempted murder might not be successful, but it's still a crime.

You're like a very poor man's imitation of Tom Clancy, without the skills or reasoning.

Tom Clancy stories are about people with courage and convictions beyond their own self interest.
This is a story about Donald Trump.

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Those of you who don't like me calling it an insurrection, tell me, what do you call it?
Was it something good?
Did the President want it to happen?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

This Donald Trump? Or another Donald Trump that we haven't heard of?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...1Y1WQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...kKjxg&s=19

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Good thing that readability consensus calculator can't understand context. I'm pretty sure it would laugh its [BLEEP] off at "strategic retreat."

Do you mean "Get out of here before we get our butts kicked." isn't a strategy?

"Get out of here before they outflank and surround us" is very much a strategy.  It was the key strategy of the Contenintal Army from 1776 to 1780.  If the British had done a better job of timing their retreat at Saratoga or at Yorktown, the war might have taken a lot longer.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You're like a very poor man's imitation of Tom Clancy, without the skills or reasoning.

Tom Clancy stories are about people with courage and convictions beyond their own self interest.
This is a story about Donald Trump.

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Those of you who don't like me calling it an insurrection, tell me, what do you call it?
Was it something good?
Did the President want it to happen?

It was a Mostly Peaceful Protest.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

This Donald Trump? Or another Donald Trump that we haven't heard of?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...1Y1WQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...kKjxg&s=19

The violence began right around 1 PM.  President Trump saw it all on live TV.  Yet no tweets about it for 98 minutes? In fact he tweeted that Pence needed to change his behavior at this time, encouraging the mob.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

This Donald Trump? Or another Donald Trump that we haven't heard of?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...1Y1WQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...kKjxg&s=19

The violence began right around 1 PM.  The President saw it all on live TV.  Yet no tweets about it for 98 minutes?  In fact he tweeted that Pence needed to change his behavior at this time, encouraging the mob.

Oh no!! 108 whole minutes?!?

Meanwhile, MSM, Washington and your very own elected democratic officials have turned a blind eye to The Twitter Files, which debunks everything they've told us. From the fake insurrection to covid..

You bought the lie with your own money, you can still return it, but you're either too proud or stupid.. Don't know which, yet.

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Do you mean "Get out of here before we get our butts kicked." isn't a strategy?

"Get out of here before they outflank and surround us" is very much a strategy.  It was the key strategy of the Contenintal Army from 1776 to 1780.  If the British had done a better job of timing their retreat at Saratoga or at Yorktown, the war might have taken a lot longer.

LOL.  Is there anything you don't have an excuse for?  
If you look at an ariel photo, you notice it's a building and there were multiple points of entry.  They were already surrounded!  What I'm hearing from you now is, these violent insurrectionists were on the verge of overthrowing the government and plunging the country into chaos, yet the Capitol Police (rather than fighting to the last man), meekly retreated, firing only a single shot in defense of the Constitution and our entire way of life.  Sounds like we need better Capitol Police (or Chuck Norris with a bb gun).

P.S.  You have the e & i transposed.  It's spelled Continental, just like the Congress.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

"Get out of here before they outflank and surround us" is very much a strategy.  It was the key strategy of the Contenintal Army from 1776 to 1780.  If the British had done a better job of timing their retreat at Saratoga or at Yorktown, the war might have taken a lot longer.

LOL.  Is there anything you don't have an excuse for?  
If you look at an ariel photo, you notice it's a building and there were multiple points of entry.  They were already surrounded!  What I'm hearing from you now is, these violent insurrectionists were on the verge of overthrowing the government and plunging the country into chaos, yet the Capitol Police (rather than fighting to the last man), meekly retreated, firing only a single shot in defense of the Constitution and our entire way of life.  Sounds like we need better Capitol Police (or Chuck Norris with a bb gun).

P.S.  You have the e & i transposed.  It's spelled Continental, just like the Congress.

Don't worry, mikesez is writing a very strongly worded email to the editor of the J6 wiki page about spell checking.

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