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Chewed Up and Spit Out

#1

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/forme...ego-state/

This guy went through it.

He was set to join the Bills this summer, but got cut when these charges were looming over his head.

Apparently he ill not face any charges now, cut that's a helluva thing to go through.

This brings to mind an old quote "Where does he go to get his reputation back?"
 

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#2

It's sad that even mentioned in a story, whether true or not, can sully your name and rep for life.. Not going to get too much into it with my opinion because I don't wanna drag this into something it shouldn't be (there's another sub forum for that) lol..

Cancel Culture plays a very mean demon..
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#3

(12-07-2022, 08:39 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: It's sad that even mentioned in a story, whether true or not, can sully your name and rep for life.. Not going to get too much into it with my opinion because I don't wanna drag this into something it shouldn't be (there's another sub forum for that) lol..

Cancel Culture plays a very mean demon..

That's an allegation of rape.  Crimes are alleged every day.  Nothing to do with "cancel culture."
 

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(This post was last modified: 12-07-2022, 09:03 PM by WingerDinger.)

(12-07-2022, 08:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(12-07-2022, 08:39 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: It's sad that even mentioned in a story, whether true or not, can sully your name and rep for life.. Not going to get too much into it with my opinion because I don't wanna drag this into something it shouldn't be (there's another sub forum for that) lol..

Cancel Culture plays a very mean demon..

That's an allegation of rape.  Crimes are alleged every day.  Nothing to do with "cancel culture."

Yeah, I understand.. Now whether he's guilty of it or not, a large population isn't going to accept him anymore. Happens everyday now, like chewing gum or walkin in the sun..

A good example would be The Duke Laxcross players.
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(12-07-2022, 09:02 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(12-07-2022, 08:57 PM)Bullseye Wrote: That's an allegation of rape.  Crimes are alleged every day.  Nothing to do with "cancel culture."

Yeah, I understand.. Now whether he's guilty of it or not, a large population isn't going to accept him anymore. Happens everyday now, like chewing gum or walkin in the sun..

A good example would be The Duke Laxcross players.

This I agree with.

Because the presumption of innocence until proven guilty is largely a fiction for all iintents and purposes.  If there is any sort of publicity associated with the case, the alleged perpetrator t of a crime gets their name smeared, even if no charges are ever brought ans he doesn't get his due process.  This is part what makes many of the police shootings so egregious.
 

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(12-07-2022, 07:33 PM)Bullseye Wrote: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/forme...ego-state/

This guy went through it.

He was set to join the Bills this summer, but got cut when these charges were looming over his head.

Apparently he ill not face any charges now, cut that's a helluva thing to go through.

This brings to mind an old quote "Where does he go to get his reputation back?"

Cleveland.

Not only do they have a history of welcoming in reclamation projects, Watson's so bad that the kid will get his fair share of on-field experience.
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#7
(This post was last modified: 12-08-2022, 11:32 AM by NewJagsCity.)

It's hard to erase being wrongly convicted in the court of public opinion.
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#8

(12-08-2022, 11:31 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: It's hard to erase being wrongly convicted in the court of public opinion.

Bingo.. That's a form of cancel culture.

This guy could be completely innocent and set free, and he'll have this looming over his head for the remainder of his career and probably a good portion of his personal life.

It hardly used to be this way, but that’s what we've become, a nation full of Judge Dredds. Everyone is their own judge, jury and executioner, and that execution is called being canceled..
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(This post was last modified: 12-08-2022, 01:57 PM by Bullseye. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-08-2022, 11:42 AM)WingerDinger Wrote:
(12-08-2022, 11:31 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: It's hard to erase being wrongly convicted in the court of public opinion.

Bingo.. That's a form of cancel culture.

This guy could be completely innocent and set free, and he'll have this looming over his head for the remainder of his career and probably a good portion of his personal life.

It hardly used to be this way, but that’s what we've become, a nation full of Judge Dredds. Everyone is their own judge, jury and executioner, and that execution is called being canceled..

Please.

That's always been the case.  It's not the result of any cancel culture

Is there a person alive who thinks OJ Simpson DIDN'T do it?!, some 27 or so years after the fact a jury found him not guilty?

If you are publicly alleged to have committed a crime, public scrutiny will persist, even if you are acquitted.
A trial isn't even necessaru for people to persist in peddling false and unsubstantiated allegations.

Conservatives have accused the Clintons of all kinds of scandals dating back to the 90s.  Aside from lying in front of Congress to hide the fact he had an affair, were the Clintons found guilty of any of the scandals for which they were accused?  Obama was accused of being Muslim (Oh the horror!  Constitution, anyone?) He was accused of using Operation Jade Helm to use the government of invading the American Southwest.  He was accused of setting up FEMA camps to intern Americans.


You think THIS guy and many others like him got the presumption of innocence?  You think anyone cared about the facts here before or after the lynching?


https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sear...tion=click

Sadly, suspiscions tend to linger in the aftermath of public allegations of wrongdoing.  It comes with the territory of being publicly accused.

It's not, by any stretch, a recent phenomenon.  It's not a form of "cancel culture."
 

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(This post was last modified: 12-08-2022, 01:19 PM by WingerDinger. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-08-2022, 01:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(12-08-2022, 11:42 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Bingo.. That's a form of cancel culture.

This guy could be completely innocent and set free, and he'll have this looming over his head for the remainder of his career and probably a good portion of his personal life.

It hardly used to be this way, but that’s what we've become, a nation full of Judge Dredds. Everyone is their own judge, jury and executioner, and that execution is called being canceled..

Please.

That's always been the case.  It's not the result of any cancel culture

Is there a person alive who thinks OJ Simpson DIDN'T do it?!, some 27 or so years after the fact a jury found him not guilty?

If you are publicly alleged to have committed a crime, public scrutiny will persist, even if you are acquitted.
A trial isn't even necessaru for people to persist in peddling false and unsubstantiated allegations.

Conservatives have accused the Clintons of all kinds of scandals dating back to the 90s.  Aside from lying in front of Congress to hide the fact he had an affair, were the Clintons found guilty of any of the scandals for which they were accused?  Obama was accused of being Muslim (Oh the horror!  Constitution, anyone?) He was accused of using Operation Jade Helm to use the government of invading the American Southwest.  He qas accused of setting up FEMA camps to intern Americans.


You think THIS guy and many others like him got the presumption of innocence?  You think anyone cared about the facts here before or after the lynching?


https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sear...tion=click

Sadly, suspiscions tend to linger in the aftermath of public allegations of wrongdoing.  It comes with the territory of being publicly accused.

It's not, by any stretch, a recent phenomenon.  It's not a form of "cancel culture."

Yes, it is 100% cancel culture. And yes, they had it for years now, they just decided to give it a flashy name.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.
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(This post was last modified: 12-08-2022, 05:25 PM by NewJagsCity. Edited 7 times in total.)

(12-08-2022, 01:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(12-08-2022, 11:42 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: Bingo.. That's a form of cancel culture.

This guy could be completely innocent and set free, and he'll have this looming over his head for the remainder of his career and probably a good portion of his personal life.

It hardly used to be this way, but that’s what we've become, a nation full of Judge Dredds. Everyone is their own judge, jury and executioner, and that execution is called being canceled..

Please.

That's always been the case.  It's not the result of any cancel culture

Is there a person alive who thinks OJ Simpson DIDN'T do it?!, some 27 or so years after the fact a jury found him not guilty?

If you are publicly alleged to have committed a crime, public scrutiny will persist, even if you are acquitted.
A trial isn't even necessaru for people to persist in peddling false and unsubstantiated allegations.

Conservatives have accused the Clintons of all kinds of scandals dating back to the 90s.  Aside from lying in front of Congress to hide the fact he had an affair, were the Clintons found guilty of any of the scandals for which they were accused?  Obama was accused of being Muslim (Oh the horror!  Constitution, anyone?) He was accused of using Operation Jade Helm to use the government of invading the American Southwest.  He was accused of setting up FEMA camps to intern Americans.


You think THIS guy and many others like him got the presumption of innocence?  You think anyone cared about the facts here before or after the lynching?


https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sear...tion=click

Sadly, suspiscions tend to linger in the aftermath of public allegations of wrongdoing.  It comes with the territory of being publicly accused.

It's not, by any stretch, a recent phenomenon.  It's not a form of "cancel culture."

You are correct, it's certainly been around for millenia. Nothing new under the sun. You can even find examples throughout much of ancient literature. I think today it's more a temporary form of cancel culture. As time passes, and depending on the perceived or actual discretion, the public tends to forgive and forget, or just becomes apathetic, especially if there is any attempt at positive change by the accused, At that point, there is a certain amount of uncancelling. People still seem to love a redemption story, if it's genuine.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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#12

(12-08-2022, 05:19 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(12-08-2022, 01:04 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Please.

That's always been the case.  It's not the result of any cancel culture

Is there a person alive who thinks OJ Simpson DIDN'T do it?!, some 27 or so years after the fact a jury found him not guilty?

If you are publicly alleged to have committed a crime, public scrutiny will persist, even if you are acquitted.
A trial isn't even necessaru for people to persist in peddling false and unsubstantiated allegations.

Conservatives have accused the Clintons of all kinds of scandals dating back to the 90s.  Aside from lying in front of Congress to hide the fact he had an affair, were the Clintons found guilty of any of the scandals for which they were accused?  Obama was accused of being Muslim (Oh the horror!  Constitution, anyone?) He was accused of using Operation Jade Helm to use the government of invading the American Southwest.  He was accused of setting up FEMA camps to intern Americans.


You think THIS guy and many others like him got the presumption of innocence?  You think anyone cared about the facts here before or after the lynching?


https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sear...tion=click

Sadly, suspiscions tend to linger in the aftermath of public allegations of wrongdoing.  It comes with the territory of being publicly accused.

It's not, by any stretch, a recent phenomenon.  It's not a form of "cancel culture."

You are correct, it's certainly been around for millenia. Nothing new under the sun. You can even find examples throughout much of ancient literature. I think today it's more a temporary form of cancel culture. As time passes, and depending on the perceived or actual discretion, the public tends to forgive and forget, or just becomes apathetic, especially if there is any attempt at positive change by the accused, At that point, there is a certain amount of uncancelling. People still seem to love a redemption story, if it's genuine.
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