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So they love banners.  Everybody gets a trophy, too.

 

Cute.

Quote:Hanging an "AFC Finalist" banner is ridiculous. It's a participation ribbon. Hanging an "AFC South Champion" banner would have made sense and not made the Colts a laughingstock (anymore so than Grigson has already). It feels a bit like a stab at the Patriots, which doesn't help them at all and certainly won't help when the Pats roll into town for Brady's return.

 

51-3 Patriots. Chalk it up now.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think it's silly as well, but the only reason this is truly being talked about is because of the Boston media/fans trying to grasp at any and everything to deflect attention away from them cheating. I guess my problem is, why aren't fans up in arms about the 1995 finalist banner or the 2003 finalist banner? My point exactly.

 

Also, I find it HILARIOUS people are claiming "Patriots are going to roll into town and destroy the Colts!!!" I CANNOT tell you how many times fans/media/casual fans said the same thing about Peyton when he first came to Indy to face the Colts. Now, the Patriots very well may win, but I guarantee you the Colts will come to play. Don't you think they're a little upset as well that they got knocked out by cheaters?

Quote:Don't get me wrong, I think it's silly as well, but the only reason this is truly being talked about is because of the Boston media/fans trying to grasp at any and everything to deflect attention away from them cheating. I guess my problem is, why aren't fans up in arms about the 1995 finalist banner or the 2003 finalist banner? My point exactly.

 

Also, I find it HILARIOUS people are claiming "Patriots are going to roll into town and destroy the Colts!!!" I CANNOT tell you how many times fans/media/casual fans said the same thing about Peyton when he first came to Indy to face the Colts. Now, the Patriots very well may win, but I guarantee you the Colts will come to play. Don't you think they're a little upset as well that they got knocked out by cheaters?

 

the patriots are cheaters because a player did something that broke the rules, correct?

 

what about when the colts had a player suspended for breaking the rules? just cheaters being knocked out by cheaters i guess...

Quote:the patriots are cheaters because a player did something that broke the rules, correct?

 

what about when the colts had a player suspended for breaking the rules? just cheaters being knocked out by cheaters i guess...

 

I'm just going to assume you're some automated machine. Can't be a real human being.

Quote:They've done this every single year when they make it to an AFC Championship game. 

 

The only reason this is being talked about is because the Boston media/fans are grasping onto anything and everything to deflect attention away from them cheating. 

 

It's no difference than the Patriots hanging a "16-0 regular season" banner in their stadium.... Only to lose in the Super Bowl that year.

 

Also no different than the losing Super Bowl team hanging a "AFC/NFC Champions" banner.

 

Did you guys also get a Deflategate participation banner?

Quote:Did you guys also get a Deflategate participation banner?

 

what about a banner for being tattle tales? 

Quote:Also no different than the losing Super Bowl team hanging a "AFC/NFC Champions" banner.

I hate to agree with Jag fans here, but it is very different and isn't even remotely comparable.. Because even if you lose the Super Bowl, when you're playing in the NFC/AFC Championship game you're playing in a Title game and when you win it you're winning a championship..


They hand out hats and T-shirts that say "CHAMPION" to the winning team and give them a trophy to put in their trophy case.. They don't hand out hats, shirts, and reward a trophy to the losing team. If you don't get called "champ" don't raise a banner. It's embarrassing..and it does resemble a participation ribbon.


As far as the other finalist banners Y'all have hanging, never been to the stadium, didn't know that, those are equally strange.. Are the Colts the only team who does this?


Also I don't think you can compare this to the Pats 16-0 banner, teams raise banners all the time to acknowledge great team/player accomplishments.. While they did lose the Super bowl on the greatest hail Mary in NFL history.. They're still one of 2 teams in NFL history to go 16-0 (or had a undefeated regular season, since the Dolphins didn't play a 16 game season), so they acknowledged it. Is losing the conference Championship a rare team accomplishment?.. No, that happens twice every single year.


Not trying to start a argument, its just they aren't comparable.. But, they're up now and you can't take them down, because that would be even more embarrassing.. Just stop putting them up in the future.. It's beneath that franchise which already has a great rich history to stand on.. They don't need to be throwing up participation banners.

Haha. Is this serious?

This whole episode is hilarious. The Colts banner, the defense of the Colts banner, the argument it's a Bostonian distraction mechanism (is this a wide spread thing?) I guess 15 straight years of winning with 10-15 more on the horizon dulls one's appreciation of funny.

The Colts speak out about their "Finalist" banners.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/130678...ist-banner

Quote:The Colts speak out about their "Finalist" banners.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/130678...ist-banner

 

Essentially what I have stated.  :whistling:

Quote:Essentially what I have stated. :whistling:

Problem is it doesn't make it right or anything more than a participation award.. The guy basically spoke how hard it is to make the playoffs and as a Texans fan, trust me I know that what he says is true.. It's hard to win in the NFL.. Everybody knows that, that's a given going in, but just because it's hard doesn't give you the the excuse to create a banner for losing a game and go against what real meaningful banners stand for.


Your team lost a game/got blown out and they raised a banner for it..Did they go out for pizza and ice cream after the loss also? It's coddling and it isn't just the Colts either..


That/those banners illustrate everything that is wrong with current America. Everybody is a winner.. Instead of people accepting failure and going home empty handed everybody needs to be congratulated, because "even though you came up short, you really tried hard..here you go buddy".


Sometimes it's good to not be praised and have your nose rubbed in it, take your [BLEEP] whooping, and taste defeat..that's what makes you work even harder so you don't feel that way again..this "everyone is a winner" or "we don't keep score" crap that is going on today is a joke and it's creating a entire generation of sissies who never develop the necessary coping skills to deal with failure or adversity.. We now praise almost good enough and it's sad.. Freaking sad.


Sorry I'll get off my soap box now.

I can't even remember their Participation. You sure they were there? All I remember is the Patriots running with the ball

Quote:They've done this every single year when they make it to an AFC Championship game. 

 

The only reason this is being talked about is because the Boston media/fans are grasping onto anything and everything to deflect attention away from them cheating. 

 

It's no difference than the Patriots hanging a "16-0 regular season" banner in their stadium.... Only to lose in the Super Bowl that year.

 

Also no different than the losing Super Bowl team hanging a "AFC/NFC Champions" banner.

 

Going undefeated in a regular season is far less common than losing in the AFC Championship game.

 

Only two teams in NFL history have completed a regular season undefeated.

 

Teams lose the AFC Championship game every year.

 

Had you made it to the Super Bowl and then lost, I would completely get the AFC Champions banner.

 

But losing the Conference championship and putting that banner up makes no sense at all.

It is more on the embarrassing side then anything else as far as I see it.

 

I could understand it if it was some little league team of 8 or 9 year olds getting a participation banner/ribbon/maybe trophy (with team name and year on it), but not an NFL team.

 

NFL players are professionals who made it and play at the highest level of football.

 

If an NFL team wins something, great, go ahead and hang your banner with pride, but if an NFL team loses a big game (conf championship/Super Bowl) what's the point of hanging a banner for participating, but losing that game? You lost.

 

If it makes them feel good to hang up a bunch of AFCS Champion banners, go ahead and hang them, you won those.

 

I know I don't ever want to see the Jags hang any "Finalist" banners up.

Quote:Going undefeated in a regular season is far less common than losing in the AFC Championship game.

 

Only two teams in NFL history have completed a regular season undefeated.

 

Teams lose the AFC Championship game every year.

 

Had you made it to the Super Bowl and then lost, I would completely get the AFC Champions banner.

 

But losing the Conference championship and putting that banner up makes no sense at all.

 

That's pretty much the way I see it too.

 

The Pats did go 16-0 in the regular season, that is a big accomplishment. They can hang a banner for going undefeated in the regular season.

 

Do the Pats have a Super Bowl "Finalist" banner hanging up for all their losses in the Super Bowl, even the one that cost them the perfect season?

Quote:That's pretty much the way I see it too.

 

The Pats did go 16-0 in the regular season, that is a big accomplishment. They can hang a banner for going undefeated in the regular season.

 

Do the Pats have a Super Bowl "Finalist" banner hanging up for all their losses in the Super Bowl, even the one that cost them the perfect season?

I think they would have been better off hanging up an AFC South champions banner.

forgive me for being sour. congratulations to the colts for being almost good enough to make it to a game to see if theyre good enough to be called champions.

Quote:forgive me for being sour. congratulations to the colts for being almost good enough to make it to a game to see if theyre good enough to be called champions.

Hey now, they were almost good enough cheaters to out-cheat the Cheatriots!

The Lions also have playoff banners.  This is pretty much a non-story.  Most of us will forget it ever happened until the next team decides to hang a banner for something.  Like we did with the Lions.  Or the last time the Colts did it.