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Injuries occur and these guys have to work out and lift weights so it's just an unavoidable situation.  The thing I don't get is why the incoming rookies get worked to death between the Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro Days and private workouts.  No wonder Fowler blew his ACL - the guy had been moving and cutting on his knees for months. 

 

Injuries in football have always been the most unfortunate thing in the sport. The NBA and NCAA have bad officiating.  College football is top heavy.  Baseball has boredom.  Soccer has little to no scoring.  Every sport has their downside.

It's part of the game.

Lifting weights is unavoidable unless you want to be weak and even more susceptible to injury.

 

Now if a guy is overtraining with his lifting routine, then the conditioning coach needs to step in.

Quote:Lifting weights is unavoidable unless you want to be weak and even more susceptible to injury.

 

Now if a guy is overtraining with his lifting routine, then the conditioning coach needs to step in.

 

yeah but the higher drafted rookies shouldnt lift weights until the playoffs

Quote:yeah but the higher drafted rookies shouldnt lift weights until the playoffs

 

this is getting old

 

Quote:yeah but the higher drafted rookies shouldnt lift weights until the playoffs

 

You are joking, right?

Quote:yeah but the higher drafted rookies shouldnt lift weights until the playoffs

 

And even then, only if they're in year 3 or later of their contract.  Otherwise, no practice.

Quote:And even then, only if they're in year 3 or later of their contract. Otherwise, no practice.

So what pick do we draw the line at? 3....4...?

Quote:So what pick do we draw the line at? 3....4...?

There is no line.  As I learned in the debate after our 1st rounder was injured in non-contact drills, the only players who should be practicing or working out are those who were either un-drafted, or invited in to audition for the team.  Draft picks should be encased in glass and swathed in bubble wrap. 

Quote:So what pick do we draw the line at? 3....4...?

 

tony khan is probably working on an algorithm right now that can properly determine what pick is no longer worth keeping safe. 

Given how some coaches ran camps in the past (and the fact "old school" players weren't in shape year round,) it's hard to believe no one died.

Quote:yeah but the higher drafted rookies shouldnt lift weights until the playoffs

I have to ask. Are you serious, or being sarcastic.

Quote:I have to ask. Are you serious, or being sarcastic.

91% sarcastic

Tough but unavoidable break for the Giants.

 

On the other side of the coin,  Ereck Flowers could prove to be the long term answer at LT.    The question is how much growing pains will he have in the short term?

Quote:Given how some coaches ran camps in the past (and the fact "old school" players weren't in shape year round,) it's hard to believe no one died.

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And I believe something similar occurred at a Tom Coughlin ran training camp.

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And I believe something similar occurred at a Tom Coughlin ran training camp.

John Henderson and Larry Smith collapsed during a Del Rio training camp.  They addressed that at the time.  The Jags had the proper protocol to deal with heat stroke.  Mike Ryan, the trainer at the time, was part of the group that actually wrote the current protocol used by the entire NFL in dealing with both preventing and treating heat related illness.  

Quote:tony khan is probably working on an algorithm right now that can properly determine what pick is no longer worth keeping safe. 

While drunk.

Quote:While drunk.

 

thats the only way to do it