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I guess the zone blocking scheme really is out (as if Doug Marrone hasn't confirmed this already). 

 

Discuss.

Crap, wrong forum I guess? Lock 'er up...

 

Apologies.

I was thinking the same thing.  So pointless going to that stupid zone blocking scheme anyway.

 

They came in, blew it all up, looking for athletic lean lineman like Bowanko, and are now doing the opposite with these power-blocking players.

 

They're silently admitting they messed up in year 1 and 2.

This is a great pick.Beatles is in trouble

Quote:I was thinking the same thing.  So pointless going to that stupid zone blocking scheme anyway.

 

They came in, blew it all up, looking for athletic lean lineman like Bowanko, and are now doing the opposite with these power-blocking players.

 

They're silently admitting they messed up in year 1 and 2.

Yep.  Beadles released now maybe?

A lot of reports saying he could have been the pick at 30 or 31.  All others have indicated this is a second round pick that many teams would like.  Some weaknesses include short, lacks line drive power, and is not suited for zone blocking schemes.

 

The new offensive coaches must really like this guy.  Wonder what happens to Beadles or Bowanko?

Gus Bradley said the team would still run mostly ZBS this year. Yeldon is a good fit for that.

Quote:Yep.  Beadles released now maybe?

 

Why the rush? Not every rookie we draft has to start right away. Actually, seeing them sit on the bench for half a season is a sign that we have other options, and that our roster is making strides.

Quote:I was thinking the same thing. So pointless going to that stupid zone blocking scheme anyway.


They came in, blew it all up, looking for athletic lean lineman like Bowanko, and are now doing the opposite with these power-blocking players.


They're silently admitting they messed up in year 1 and 2.

ZBS isn't going anywhere.

Quote:ZBS isn't going anywhere.

 

Then I'm confused by the Cann pick because his biggest knock is that he's athletically limited. This isn't a pull and trap kind of player. And Marrone apparently didn't use a ZBS in Buffalo, so what's the deal?

Cann can play zbs. Dont soley rely on what nfl.com says.

Quote:Cann can play zbs. Dont soley rely on what nfl.com says.

 

nfldraftscout says the same thing in the first line of their analysis of Cann's weaknesses. Where does it say he can play in the ZBS? 

Great pick. The line definitely is vastly improved with the addition of parnell, wiz, and cann.

Quote:nfldraftscout says the same thing in the first line of their analysis of Cann's weaknesses. Where does it say he can play in the ZBS?

All these people are doing is looking at his 40 time and saying that. Just the typical draft stereotype. Just like how all small running backs have to work on pass protection, no matter what.


Not saying zbs is his forte, but he is plenty capable. The Jags apparently think so too.

Quote:All these people are doing is looking at his 40 time and saying that. Just the typical draft stereotype. Just like how all small running backs have to work on pass protection, no matter what.


Not saying zbs is his forte, but he is plenty capable. The Jags apparently think so too.

 

He didn't run a 40 at the Combine or his Pro Day. Calf injury and then a hamstring injury. So the commentary isn't based on his 40 time. Again, I'd like to see where it says he can pull it off. And since we're apparently looking at getting rid of Beadles, I guess Cann not only has to pull it off, he has to be an upgrade.

Quote:He didn't run a 40 at the Combine or his Pro Day. Calf injury and then a hamstring injury. So the commentary isn't based on his 40 time. Again, I'd like to see where it says he can pull it off. And since we're apparently looking at getting rid of Beadles, I guess Cann not only has to pull it off, he has to be an upgrade.

5.47 and 5.46 at his pro day.

Quote:Then I'm confused by the Cann pick because his biggest knock is that he's athletically limited. This isn't a pull and trap kind of player. And Marrone apparently didn't use a ZBS in Buffalo, so what's the deal?

They use both ZBS and Gap concepts.

Quote:5.47 and 5.46 at his pro day.

 

Ok, I see it now. So we've established he's slow. Fine. So the only argument for him working out in a ZBS is that the negative commentary saying he can't do it is just based on his slow 40 time. Which isn't even an argument. Like, at all. Not at all.

Quote:Ok, I see it now. So we've established he's slow. Fine. So the only argument for him working out in a ZBS is that the negative commentary saying he can't do it is just based on his slow 40 time. Which isn't even an argument. Like, at all. Not at all.

I am saying people who didn't actually watch him play saw a slow 40 time and then wrote that he wasn't zbs fit because of it.


People who actually watched him saw that he had quick feet and he was more than capable of playing zbs.

Quote:I am saying people who didn't actually watch him play saw a slow 40 time and then wrote that he wasn't zbs fit because of it.


People who actually watched him saw that he had quick feet and he was more than capable of playing zbs.

 

Fair enough. I'm just trying to find a decent draftnik who said that. As for nfl.com and nfldraftscout I can't comment on how much time their analysts put in. I'd hope their reputations as good sources are warranted by diligent research, but can't say for sure. I hope it works out.