I am scared it is going to happen. He is going to come across as very much a Guy guy (not that Beasley/Williams/Dupree...even Ray aren't).
Quote:I am scared it is going to happen. He is going to come across as very much a Guy guy (not that Beasley/Williams/Dupree...even Ray aren't).
Lol "scared."
Quote:Lol "scared."
I know, Fowler isn't my first choice, but we could certainly do worse.
Quote:Lol "scared."
He's the last of the 5 ok options to me. Beasley >>> Amari > White > Williams > Fowler.
Quote:He's the last of the 5 ok options to me. Beasley >>> Amari > White > Williams > Fowler.
Cool.
Quote:He's the last of the 5 ok options to me. Beasley >>> Amari > White > Williams > Fowler.
I agree with a lot of things you usually say and you seem to be one of the more knowledgable fans on the board, but that list makes me cringe. Is that your player rankings or who you want the jags to select?
Quote:I agree with a lot of things you usually say and you seem to be one of the more knowledgable fans on the board, but that list makes me cringe. Is that your player rankings or who you want the jags to select?
I don't know, man. I like all of them. I may switch White with Williams... maybe.
The top of this draft isn't that deep. Who are your top-5?
Quote:I don't know, man. I like all of them. I may switch White with Williams... maybe.
The top of this draft isn't that deep. Who are your top-5?
My top 5 for the jags is different than my top 5 players. Caldwell is a needs based drafter and we need a pass rusher.
For the Jags
Fowler>Dupree>Beasley>Gregory>White
Top 5
Fowler>White>Dupree>Gurley>Beasley
If Williams is off the board, I'd rather trade back for Dupree than take Fowler, Beasley or Gregory.
I don't think Fowler is one of the 5 best players in this draft, and I predict he won't be one of the first 5 players drafted. Will see in 3 weeks.
Quote:I don't think Fowler is one of the 5 best players in this draft, and I predict he won't be one of the first 5 players drafted. Will see in 3 weeks.
Well he's widely seen as the best edge rusher. Talent wise it's probably Williams, Cooper, White, Fowler, Beasley.
I don't think Winston is one of the top 5 players in the draft, but he'll go 1, and Mariota will also be over drafted.
Quote:Well he's widely seen as the best edge rusher. Talent wise it's probably Williams, Cooper, White, Fowler, Beasley.
I don't think Winston is one of the top 5 players in the draft, but he'll go 1, and Mariota will also be over drafted.
I can respect that, and I agree with you on Winston. Personally, I think Vic Beasley has the potential to be something between Von Miller and Demarcus Ware, and that potential alone is worth the number 3 pick. I don't think Fowler is in the same category as Beasley athletically. Beasley is the perfect LEO, a more athletic version of Chris Clemons IMO.
Quote:I don't think Fowler is one of the 5 best players in this draft, and I predict he won't be one of the first 5 players drafted. Will see in 3 weeks.
Why?
Quote:Why?
I don't think he's athletic enough; I think he translates to a very good run stopper and an average to above average pass rusher. Vic Beasley meanwhile, in my opinion, translates into an elite pass rusher, which is what the Jags DESPERATELY need.
3 things will turn this team around: a QB, LT, and DE. Caldwell has picked 2 out of 3, I think he agrees with me on who the third should be; Vic Beasley.
Good he wants to come here and he is a fit, i'm sure he is one of the guys on the top of Dave and Gus list, hope we draft him
Quote:I don't think he's athletic enough; I think he translates to a very good run stopper and an average to above average pass rusher. Vic Beasley meanwhile, in my opinion, translates into an elite pass rusher, which is what the Jags DESPERATELY need.
3 things will turn this team around: a QB, LT, and DE. Caldwell has picked 2 out of 3, I think he agrees with me on who the third should be; Vic Beasley.
I like Beasley as well but I guess I value versatility more than you do. Fowler can make plays all over the field as well as rush the passer effectively. If Fowler was only exclusively asked to rush the passer like Beasley was at Clemson then his numbers would look different drastically.
They both fit the system perfectly I just really like how violent and versatile Fowler is compared to Beasley.
Fowler Jr. or Beasley Jr., that's a good problem.
Manzeil looked pretty stunned when Bortles was the pick.
Manzeil looked pretty stunned when Bortles was the pick.