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I'm curious to see what people outside of Michigan think.

Not many Harbaugh is a heck of a college and pro coach 

For what?

Wanted the gators to get him. Guy is a great coach.

Given Harbaugh's success at the NFL level, I can't imagine any college coaches having a better resume for a pro position.

not many I can think of.

 

theres not many pro coaches I'd take over him either.

Quote:I'm curious to see what people outside of Michigan think.

Urban Meyer and saban are my only 2

Quote:Urban Meyer and saban are my only 2

 

These are the only two that come to mind for me too.

 

Harbaugh is a great signing by Michigan and something they needed to get that program back on track.

There is another coach in the state of Michigan right now that has won at least 11 games in four of the past five seasons. In the last two years has won the Rose Bowl and Cotton Bowl.

Quote:There is another coach in the state of Michigan right now that has won at least 11 games in four of the past five seasons. In the last two years has won the Rose Bowl and Cotton Bowl.

 

 

So what's your answer to the question?

I think the guy is as shady as a water oak.

 

I put him in the category of Urban Meyer.  Good college coach, but I'd rather he coach someone else's team than mine.

Quote:I think the guy is as shady as a water oak.

 

I put him in the category of Urban Meyer.  Good college coach, but I'd rather he coach someone else's team than mine.

 

Why do you think Harbaugh is shady? Are there any specific incidents from while he was at Stanford? Calling him shady is one thing, but putting him on the same level of shady as a guy like Urban Meyer has me scratching my head.

I can't think of many. Case can be made he could be my first choice.

Quote:So what's your answer to the question?

 

I have no idea. But he has a ways to go to catch his two biggest rivals.

Quote:I have no idea. But he has a ways to go to catch his two biggest rivals.

 

So you think Mark D'Antonio is a better coach than Jim Harbaugh, all other things being equal? Not only that, but you think there is a big gap between the two? What has Harbaugh done in the past few years to signify he is a significantly inferior coach to Mark D'Antonio?

Quote:I can't think of many. Case can be made he could be my first choice.

 

Pretty interesting range of opinions. Glad I asked the question.

The thing that would really make me worry about Harbaugh is his long-term effect on the Program. He's going to be a constant pain in your rear end as the AD the whole time he's there always pushing for more and more control, at least that's my perspective of him. Now, maybe you can live with that kind of thing but he's left some fences in sore need of mending in his past.

 

He's going to recruit specific types of players and run a specific type of football and that's a good thing, but now he's going up against some very heavy hitters in the form of Ohio State, and the guy who runs a program that - in my perspective again - Harbaugh wants to have in Dantonio.

 

Would I want Harbaugh as my team's Head Coach? As a fan, sure why not? As an AD... I'd have to think long and hard about that.

Quote:The thing that would really make me worry about Harbaugh is his long-term effect on the Program. He's going to be a constant pain in your rear end as the AD the whole time he's there always pushing for more and more control, at least that's my perspective of him. Now, maybe you can live with that kind of thing but he's left some fences in sore need of mending in his past.

 

He's going to recruit specific types of players and run a specific type of football and that's a good thing, but now he's going up against some very heavy hitters in the form of Ohio State, and the guy who runs a program that - in my perspective again - Harbaugh wants to have in Dantonio.

 

Would I want Harbaugh as my team's Head Coach? As a fan, sure why not? As an AD... I'd have to think long and hard about that.

 

Also you have to constantly deal with the chance of him bolting for the NFL if he is not happy and the right situation opens up.

 

This is not Saban, a great college coach who failed in the NFL. He was a great head coach in the NFL.

Quote:Also you have to constantly deal with the chance of him bolting for the NFL if he is not happy and the right situation opens up.

 

This is not Saban, a great college coach who failed in the NFL. He was a great head coach in the NFL.

 

Exactly. He's going to require constant love and attention and coddling and making sure that he feels welcome from everyone. Again, that's just how I see him, but for me I'd want my Program to have roots that run a bit deeper than that.

Quote:Why do you think Harbaugh is shady? Are there any specific incidents from while he was at Stanford? Calling him shady is one thing, but putting him on the same level of shady as a guy like Urban Meyer has me scratching my head.

 

He seems to suffer from the same hubris, to a fault.

 

Seems to wear out his welcome alarmingly fast.

 

IMO, he's not even the best of the Harbaughs.  I'd much rather have his brother, John.  College or pro, high school or pee wee.

 

I believe he's extremely overrated.  He propped Stanford when the conference was about as weak as it gets.  He inherited a roster of pro bowlers in the NFL, then imploded along with it.  I honestly don't see what's so great about him as a coach.  He should do fine at Michigan, because recruiting is 3/4 the battle at the college level.