03-26-2015, 08:32 AM
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03-26-2015, 09:23 AM
Quote:In a separate statement published in the Ithaca Voice, Cornell University President David Skorton defended Scaffido and derided the undercover filmmaker.
“It is shameful that any individual would pose as a student facing racial discrimination at another university, ask leading questions on hidden camera about Cornell’s tolerance for differing viewpoints and backgrounds, and then conveniently splice together the resulting footage to smear our assistant dean and our University,” Skorton said.
“After speaking with Assistant Dean Scaffido, I am convinced that he was not aware of what he was being asked,” he added.
03-26-2015, 09:23 AM
03-26-2015, 11:55 AM
Quote:http://news.yahoo.com/james-o-keefe-vide...25511.htmlIt's amazing how when you want to find fault with somebody you will, by any means necessary.
03-26-2015, 12:05 PM
Quote:It's amazing how when you want to find fault with somebody you will, by any means necessary.
I don't think context is an issue, he's very clear the questions and answers. This guy is so open minded he actually said it would be ok to bring in an ISIS member to speak, to send humanitarian aid to ISIS and that the community was very open to different views.
03-26-2015, 12:06 PM
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“It is shameful that any individual would pose as a student facing racial discrimination at another university, ask leading questions on hidden camera about Cornell’s tolerance for differing viewpoints and backgrounds, and then conveniently splice together the resulting footage to smear our assistant dean and our University,” Skorton said.
“After speaking with Assistant Dean Scaffido, I am convinced that he was not aware of what he was being asked,” he added.
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How is not aware when the guy says we like to bring in someone that is a "Freedom Fighter from Northern Iraq and Syria" To give their view point, if he's really that dense I fear for Cornell's academic standards.
03-26-2015, 12:08 PM
Quote:How is not aware when the guy says we like to bring in someone that is a "Freedom Fighter from Northern Iraq and Syria" To give their view point, if he's really that dense I fear for Cornell's academic standards.
Also in the Yahoo article.
Quote: IS members or their supporters are rarely referred to in the media as “freedom fighters.” And while most news coverage of the current situation in northern Iraq and Syria now uses “ISIS” and “the Islamic State” interchangeably, the subtitles on the Veritas video include “(ISIS)” in parentheses following “Ali’s” first mention of the Islamic State, acknowledging that the average viewer might need some help putting two and two together.
03-26-2015, 12:13 PM
Quote:I don't think context is an issue, he's very clear the questions and answers. This guy is so open minded he actually said it would be ok to bring in an ISIS member to speak, to send humanitarian aid to ISIS and that the community was very open to different views.
If context isn't an issue, why not actually use the name ISIS in the undercover video?
03-26-2015, 12:28 PM
Quote:I don't think context is an issue, he's very clear the questions and answers. This guy is so open minded he actually said it would be ok to bring in an ISIS member to speak, to send humanitarian aid to ISIS and that the community was very open to different views.He never said ISIS once in the interview. It's very obvious he was mislead or simply misunderstood the meaning there.
I do think it's odd that Hamas did not ring a bell though.
03-26-2015, 12:43 PM
None of this is really a surprise with O'Keefe.
This is his MO.
This is his MO.
03-26-2015, 12:54 PM
The irony here is that the OP used "you can't make this stuff up..." in his thread description, yet "Ali"'s entire story is fabricated.
03-26-2015, 01:20 PM
Quote:The irony here is that the OP used "you can't make this stuff up..." in his thread description, yet "Ali"'s entire story is fabricated.Unless you are Ted Cruz, then you can fabricate history about Galileo and then attempt to compare yourself to him in an epic failure of analogies.
03-26-2015, 01:43 PM
lol if freedom fighters from Northern Iraq and Syria doesn't throw red flags, I just don't know what to say.
The point of under cover videos is to get raw footage and information, if the guy says hey ISIS they cool to come here? It's going to blow the entire interview. I'm not buying the guy couldn't make a connection towards the end he stopped hinting and started become blunt.
The point of under cover videos is to get raw footage and information, if the guy says hey ISIS they cool to come here? It's going to blow the entire interview. I'm not buying the guy couldn't make a connection towards the end he stopped hinting and started become blunt.
03-26-2015, 01:48 PM
Quote:lol if freedom fighters from Northern Iraq and Syria doesn't throw red flags, I just don't know what to say.Why didn't he say ISIS? Why did he not use that term? Using terms like freedom fighters, especially if someone is not informed outside of MM, is an easy way to mislead someone to get response you can then cut up into videos to russle some jimmies.
The point of under cover videos is to get raw footage and information, if the guy says hey ISIS they cool to come here? It's going to blow the entire interview. I'm not buying the guy couldn't make a connection towards the end he stopped hinting and started become blunt.
LOL @ blow the interview. If he asks about ISIS he knows he isn't going to get jimmy russlin' material.
03-26-2015, 01:58 PM
Quote:Why didn't he say ISIS? Why did he not use that term? Using terms like freedom fighters, especially if someone is not informed outside of MM, is an easy way to mislead someone to get response you can then cut up into videos to russle some jimmies.
LOL @ blow the interview. If he asks about ISIS he knows he isn't going to get jimmy russlin' material.
Give me a break, if it was a conservative interview telling someone sure we're open to "German Natural Citizen Movements" you'd be all over them for supporting the right wing Nazi.
03-26-2015, 02:11 PM
Quote:lol if freedom fighters from Northern Iraq and Syria doesn't throw red flags, I just don't know what to say.
The point of under cover videos is to get raw footage and information, if the guy says hey ISIS they cool to come here? It's going to blow the entire interview. I'm not buying the guy couldn't make a connection towards the end he stopped hinting and started become blunt.
The point of O'keefe's style of journalism is that "Gotcha!" style of journalism that tries to get people to say what he wants. It skews the results.
Yes, it does blow the whole interview -- because it wouldn't give O'Keefe the results he wanted. If the Dean of Cornell University really supported the idea of an ISIS Club, then O'Keefe wouldn't have had to be so misleading. It was an undercover video. He could have easily used the words "ISIS" but he didn't, knowing he'd be likely to get the results he wanted.
People don't usually hide their politics that well.
I mean a Maine Representative said: "If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn't a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman? At least the rapist's pursuit of sexual freedom doesn't (in most cases) result in anyone's death.""
The undercover video would have been better served using the actual term ISIS. This would be a bigger story if he asked "Would it be okay to bring a fighter from ISIS here to speak at the college?" If the Dean is really okay with bringing an ISIS fighter to speak at his college, he'd have said yes even if you use the term "ISIS". Instead it's just gotcha journalism.
03-26-2015, 02:20 PM
Quote:Give me a break, if it was a conservative interview telling someone sure we're open to "German Natural Citizen Movements" you'd be all over them for supporting the right wing Nazi.
No we wouldn't. Because it's Gotcha Journalism. That's all it is.
It'd be like going up to a senator and asking if they support a ban on putting Dihydrogen Monoxide in our foods, which is a colorless odorless chemical compound often used in pesticides and industrial solvents. Accidental inhalation of Dihydrogen Monoxide is responsible for thousands of deaths each year. Do you support the ban, Mr. Senator?"
It'd be funny if they say yes, but not exactly something that would get anyone worked up about.
03-26-2015, 02:31 PM
Quote:The point of O'keefe's style of journalism is that "Gotcha!" style of journalism that tries to get people to say what he wants.
"Journalism"
03-26-2015, 02:44 PM
Quote:Give me a break, if it was a conservative interview telling someone sure we're open to "German Natural Citizen Movements" you'd be all over them for supporting the right wing Nazi.This the first time I have heard that line, so no I would not.
Either you want so very badly to think someone at a liberal university would support terrorism for some inane reason or I don't know. I can't for the life of me understand how someone can watch this and see the guy clearly does not make the connection between ISIS and what this "interviewer" is talking about. Other than desperately wanting the GOTCHA!
03-26-2015, 02:48 PM
Step one: Come up with hypothesis.
Step two: Devise experiment that will 100% support hypothesis and completely disallow anything that refutes said hypothesis.
Step two: Devise experiment that will 100% support hypothesis and completely disallow anything that refutes said hypothesis.
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