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Feelings mutual, but I'm not the one basically calling people idiots because they have a different opinion.
Quote:I'm not saying White is the safer player, I'm saying White is the better prospect/player. Also I'm not saying this based on what scouts are saying either, this is my opinion and I from what I've watched I aee White as the better player with a higher ceiling. I respect your opinion but I'll take the faster, bigger, more explosive, better catcher in White
In your opinion, im not saying it based on what scouts are saying either.  I have watched both play and I think Cooper will be the better player.  I like White also but if i had to pick i would go with Cooper.
Quote:In your opinion, im not saying it based on what scouts are saying either. I have watched both play and I think Cooper will be the better player. I like White also but if i had to pick i would go with Cooper.


we shall see, only time will tell
Quote:Feelings mutual, but I'm not the one basically calling people idiots because they have a different opinion.


You're putting words in my mouth, I never called or implied that anyone was an idiot or anything along the lines of that
Quote:Depends on what you want, I want the elite edge speed rusher "leo", I think Ray can be that
Length is a key requirement for LEO. Ray plays with the worst length of any of the first round candidate pass rushers. Pushed around the edge or just swallowed up more than anyone in contention by far IMO. Good first step and nice motor, but the rest of the package put to shame by the other candidates, who also have good burst and motors too.
Quote:In your opinion, im not saying it based on what scouts are saying either.  I have watched both play and I think Cooper will be the better player.  I like White also but if i had to pick i would go with Cooper.
I watched Cooper play too. I think that we will be a way better player then White. He has stronger arms, can catch way better, and in my opinion has rare vision. He was the reason Alabama had the great offense. Cooper has the making to be an elite NFL wide receiver 
Quote:Length is a key requirement for LEO. Ray plays with the worst length of any of the first round candidate pass rushers. Pushed around the edge or just swallowed up more than anyone in contention by far IMO. Good first step and nice motor, but the rest of the package put to shame by the other candidates, who also have good burst and motors too.
I dont think he less length than Clemons, and he gets "swallowed up" no more than a guy you like in Beasley

Quote:I dont think he less length than Clemons, and he gets "swallowed up" no more than a guy you like in Beasley
First, I absolutely think he got handled more than Beasley. Beasley got more extra attention on him than anyone else I have seen so far this year, he was basically this years Clowney when it came to double teams. 

 

Second, I think Beasley would probably be an OTTO if we took him.
Shane Ray over Williams? :mellow:

Quote:Shane Ray over Williams? :mellow:
 

I assumed he prefers trading down and taking Ray over Williams at 3.   I like Ray but I don't see picking him at 3.  
Quote:I assumed he prefers trading down and taking Ray over Williams at 3. I like Ray but I don't see picking him at 3.
yes, trade down is number 1 for me
Quote:I assumed he prefers trading down and taking Ray over Williams at 3.   I like Ray but I don't see picking him at 3.  
Ahh. If we trade down with the Eagles, not sure he is a possibility there either, but that makes more sense I suppose.
Quote:Ahh. If we trade down with the Eagles, not sure he is a possibility there either, but that makes more sense I suppose.
if hes gone thats fine too, stack up on more picks. I doubt he is there at 20 and I doubt we trade back that far, but I like Ray, Fowler, and Williams if we stay at 3. They are all close to me and would be good with any of them if we cant trade back
Quote:Same with the people who have Cooper over White


Obviously haven't watched the film
 

 

Quote:You're putting words in my mouth, I never called or implied that anyone was an idiot or anything along the lines of that
 

Oh, so now you're saying that you *didn't* post the above quote? Rolleyes
Quote:As of right now...

 

1. Leonard Williams

.....

2. Danny Shelton

3-5 Ray, Fowler, Beasley (in no particular order)

 

I realize Shelton isnt a need but if the guy really is the next Haloti Ngata, I dont know how you could pass that up.
 

 

It looks like Shelton is slated to fall out of the top 15 around where Bud Dupree might go. I can so see Caldwell jumping on any trade down opportunities. I expect either Mariota or Williams to be there, and there's already speculation that the Eagles might move up for Mariota.

Quote:1.Shelton

2.Williams

3.Fowler

4.Collins

5.Its a tie between like 30 so i will just go with my boy Shaq
 

 

When you say Collins, are you talking about La'el, Jalen or Landon?

Quote:Williams

Cooper

Dupree

Beasley

M. Williams
 

 

M. Williams??? <--are you thinking about our round two pick?

Quote:It looks like Shelton is slated to fall out of the top 15 around where Bud Dupree might go. I can so see Caldwell jumping on any trade down opportunities. I expect either Mariota or Williams to be there,


What?!? On the first point on Shelton...


Really stepping out on a limb with the prediction of Mariota or Williams at 3.
Quote:Oh, so now you're saying that you *didn't* post the above quote? Rolleyes
Lol in no way does me saying this insinuate me calling anyone a name


Just give up pal
Williams

Fowler

Beasley

4a Ray

4b Gregory
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