Are you ready for a shocker?
After Richard Sherman's MRI, he was only diagnosed with an elbow sprain. Now the Seahawks say he may need the kind of surgery most often done on baseball pitchers.
Strong safety Kam Chancellor suffered a torn MCL and deep bone bruise. Initially he was told not to play in the Super Bowl. He will have surgery to repair the ligament.
Free safety Earl Thomas only dislocated his shoulder. Now he is a candidate for surgery after playing in the Super Bowl without making it worse.
None of them appeared to be in a pain or limited during the Super Bowl. Sherman and Thomas did not favor their injured arms in any practices.
Playing was a no-brainer for them because it was the Super Bowl, but the reports surgery may be needed brings up the question, "What if it was a regular season game?" It also makes me wonder how the MRI for Sherman could have missed a ligament tear or if the Seahawks downplayed the results because he showed no signs of pain or limitation in practices. Maybe the fact Sherman is right-handed (which was confirmed by coach Pete Carroll) had something to do with it. And Chancellor? How in the world did he get cleared to play after being diagnosed with a torn MCL?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...super-bowl
Some people have higher pain thresholds than others. Which is why turf toe knocks some guys out for 2 games and Emmitt Smith wins a rushing title with a separated shoulder. I broke my back in 2001 and didn't find out it was broken until 2012. Some guys use pain as an excuse and some use it as a motivator.
I know I would not be able to do what they did. So congrats to them. Hope the best for them.
Quote:I know I would not be able to do what they did. So congrats to them. Hope the best for them.
I wouldn't either. My pain threshold is very low when compared to football players.
I hope Sherman will not need Tommy John surgery, whatever that is. There are conflicting reports about that because he is not a left-handed quarterback.
Quote:Some people have higher pain thresholds than others. Which is why turf toe knocks some guys out for 2 games and Emmitt Smith wins a rushing title with a separated shoulder. I broke my back in 2001 and didn't find out it was broken until 2012. Some guys use pain as an excuse and some use it as a motivator.
i also think different injuries hurt different people more, I broke my foot 2 weeks ago and have only found out this morning, have been walking on it, going out on it and I've just gone through it, however I had a trapped nerve in my lower back about a year ago and literally couldn't move for over 2 weeks I was in so much pain.
None of this is shocking, honestly. Sherman isn't going to have to throw a pitch so a Tommy John surgery isn't a problem for a football player. Shoulder injuries are tricky.
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Football players play hurt all the time. There is a reason why they report for treatment.
Not sure why this story has the wings it does. It's football. It's a looooong season of physical play. Everyone is hurting in some form or fashion, some play with difficult injuries. It's part of the game.
No mention of Jeremy Lane's injury?? Disappointing. Do yourself a favor and Google Jeremy Lane injury and look at the images.
Quote:I wouldn't either. My pain threshold is very low when compared to football players.
I hope Sherman will not need Tommy John surgery, whatever that is. There are conflicting reports about that because he is not a left-handed quarterback.
Tommy John is a tendon replacement in the elbow. The tendon won't heal on it's own and is so damaged that it can't be repaired so they replace it with a cadaver's or transplant. It's murder on throwers because the particular tendon is the one that takes all the strain in the throwing motion. For a guy like Sherman it isn't that serious, for MLB pitchers its career threatening even now.
Those guys have access to some terrific analgesics that permit them to continue performing even when seriously injured. "Just strap it up and shoot it up and I'm good to go coach!"
Toradol is the magic bullet used by nfl teams to get players ready.
Quote:No mention of Jeremy Lane's injury?? Disappointing. Do yourself a favor and Google Jeremy Lane injury and look at the images.
Nooooope!
Nope nope nope nope nope.
All of the nope.
I think the two in-game injuries (Jeremy Lane and Cliff Avril) cost us more than Sherm, Kam or ET not being 100%. I don't know how much the injuries bother them, but they were on the field and even if they were physically at 60-70% they are still better than our backups at their positions (and probably better than most of the healthy starters in the league).
Tharold Simon had a very bad game and when after Avril's injury we moved Michael Bennett outside there was no pass rush inside, so Tom Brady could just step up in the pocket. We would probably win with just one of Lane or Avril staying healthy. But injuries are never an excuse for me. We were not ourselves in the 4th quarter when we are usually the best. And Brady, Edelman, Gronk and the Patriots defense made plays when they needed.
McDaniels and Brady stood up and took serious notice when Lane went down. That injury was very costly to the Seahawks.
Avril wasn't doing much in the game, he was basically a non-factor especially compared to last years super bowl when he terrorized the Denver backfield. What I don't know, and this is based on a lack of knowledge of Seattle's roster depth, is - did Bennett get moved on the line due to the Avril concussion? If so then it had an impact because Bennett was a terror that day.
Yes. Bennett played mostly outside (as RDE) this season, but Carroll and Quinn moved him inside for this game. Don't know why. Maybe they saw a better matchup there or they were also concerned with our pass rush in the previous games against the Packers and Panthers and try to change something. Anyway, they were right, Bennett was a nightmare for the Pats O-Line.
Here are some stats I found (don't know if they are correct):
Quote:Before Avril injury:
6 NE drives: 2 TD (33%), 2 TO (33%), 2 punts (33%)
Brady: 22/31 (70.0%), 187 yards (6.03 YPA), 2 TD, 2 INT, QB rating 81.0
After Avril injury:
4 NE drives: 2 TD (50%), 2 punts (50%)
Brady: 15/19 (78.9%), 141 yards (7.42 YPA), 2 TD, 0 INT, QB rating 132.7
Quote:Brady with Avril on field: 15-23 passing, 106 yds, 0 TD, 2 INT, 24.8 QBR, 39.4 passer rating. No Avril: 22-27, 214 yds, 4 TD, 0 INT, 97.7 QBR, 139.3 passer rating
It has more to do with Bennett playing inside than Avril, but still a big difference.
Quote:Some people have higher pain thresholds than others. Which is why turf toe knocks some guys out for 2 games and Emmitt Smith wins a rushing title with a separated shoulder. I broke my back in 2001 and didn't find out it was broken until 2012. Some guys use pain as an excuse and some use it as a motivator.
If it's nothing more than a pain tolerance issue and there's no risk of further injury, the needle works just fine.
Quote:No mention of Jeremy Lane's injury? Disappointing. Do yourself a favor and Google Jeremy Lane injury and look at the images.
Compound fractures of both the radius and ulna at the wrist. He will need surgery. That must be too gross for many fans to look at.
Quote:Compound fractures of both the radius and ulna at the wrist. He will need surgery. That must be too gross for many fans to look at.
It's really not that bad to look at (I guess thats my opinion), and I hate seeing those types of injuries.
The Seahawks may have to start next season without Earl Thomas.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...go-surgery
Quote:NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday that the Seahawks' star safety played against the Patriots with a separated shoulder and a torn labrum, per a source informed of the situation.
Torn Labrum's are awful. If he was on the lines it would at a minimum delay his return for about 2 years. Boselli was never the same after tearing both of his.