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So Bradley brings in his own replacement?


Makes perfect sense to me.
Little known fact:

 

Bradley is married to Marrone's sister-in-law.

 

BOOM. That's a true story I just made up. Take it or leave it. But I think it's obvious that Bradley is still hiring his buddies or pals to help him coach.

Quote:Was wondering why the FO wouldn't just name him OC rather than make Olsen the oc with him as the " assistant head coach/ oline".. Then i pictured the possiblity of us going 0-8 to start the season and realized maybe marrone is daves way lf covering another horrible start to a year.... If they start like horse crap, he fires bradley and lets marrone take the reins.



Maybe ive lost it after 4 years of bottom of the league, but everything smells like conspiracy to me lol.
 

Marrone interviewed specifically for the offensive line coach job.  He didn't want to be the OC.  He had a clause in his contract with Buffalo to opt out with a $4 million payout.  He took the payout, left buffalo, and decided to spend the year here coaching the oline.  The front office in the mean time is keeping Yarno under contract.  That says two things.  1.  They're being good people by keeping him under contract for his illness coverage.  2.  They expect him to be back at some point in some capacity.  

 

If Marrone coaches the Oline for a year and they show improvement, then he can go somewhere else as a HC candidate or OC candidate, while at the same time we would hypothetically get Yarno back coaching the Oline.

 

Believe it or not, I don't think there are smoke and mirrors to this hire.
Quote:So Bradley brings in his own replacement?


Makes perfect sense to me.
This. 

 

I can't believe folks are still trying to make something out of this.  

 

Bradley had a chance to hire someone he felt could help repair/build a horribly under-performing line that has a few hopeful young pieces.  

And he jumped at the chance. 

 

Cronies?  I don't care. Maybe. Doesn't matter.

 

 Possible HC outlet for the Jags?  Stupid to even consider that as a possibility. Head coaches don't hire someone to take their job. 
Quote:Marrone interviewed specifically for the offensive line coach job.  He didn't want to be the OC.  He had a clause in his contract with Buffalo to opt out with a $4 million payout.  He took the payout, left buffalo, and decided to spend the year here coaching the oline.  The front office in the mean time is keeping Yarno under contract.  That says two things.  1.  They're being good people by keeping him under contract for his illness coverage.  2.  They expect him to be back at some point in some capacity.  

 

If Marrone coaches the Oline for a year and they show improvement, then he can go somewhere else as a HC candidate or OC candidate, while at the same time we would hypothetically get Yarno back coaching the Oline.

 

Believe it or not, I don't think there are smoke and mirrors to this hire.
 

I see it this way as well. Marrone is a 1-year placeholder (and a good one) to allow things to clear up regarding Yarno.
Quote:I see it this way as well. Marrone is a 1-year placeholder (and a good one) to allow things to clear up regarding Yarno.
 

Very possible. Probably an attractive scenario to Marrone if he's got his sights on a HC job in 2016. 
While the offensive line couldn't play much worse, maybe Marrone can lure a

free agent left tackle and blocking TE to at least shore up things...

Quote:While the offensive line couldn't play much worse, maybe Marrone can lure a

free agent left tackle and blocking TE to at least shore up things...
 

We already have a blocking TE in Marcedes.  We need a TE that doesn't have hands of stone and can get open.
Quote:Was wondering why the FO wouldn't just name him OC rather than make Olsen the oc with him as the " assistant head coach/ oline".. Then i pictured the possiblity of us going 0-8 to start the season and realized maybe marrone is daves way lf covering another horrible start to a year.... If they start like horse crap, he fires bradley and lets marrone take the reins.



Maybe ive lost it after 4 years of bottom of the league, but everything smells like conspiracy to me lol.
I concur...
Quote:Maybe the hire nothing more than Gus saying lets bring in a veteran HC (probably short term) with the experience on the other side of the ball that he doesnt have to turn this O around? I just see him as an advisor.
 

Why do we need an "advisor?"  Can Gus not get the job done with a DC, OC and now he needs an advisor?  What exactly are we paying him for?
Quote:Its common for position coaches to be given the Assistant Head Coach tag for additional responsibilities. Also, Caldwell should have NO contingency plan.

 

Seriously, you're going to fire Bradley for not being able to win with the roster of UDFA, rookies, and 2nd year guys that Caldwell has given him?

 

You fire Bradley, you fire Caldwell.

 

You keep Gus, you keep Dave.
I disagree...one can observe that Caldwell got better at his job from year 1 to year 2.  The same cannot be said of Bradley.
Quote:We already have a blocking TE in Marcedes.  We need a TE that doesn't have hands of stone and can get open.
 

Lewis is not a great blocking TE.  He whiffed on way too many blocks this past year.  He was part of the problem allowing too much pressure on Bortles.
Quote:This.


I can't believe folks are still trying to make something out of this.


Bradley had a chance to hire someone he felt could help repair/build a horribly under-performing line that has a few hopeful young pieces.

And he jumped at the chance.


Cronies? I don't care. Maybe. Doesn't matter.


Possible HC outlet for the Jags? Stupid to even consider that as a possibility. Head coaches don't hire someone to take their job.
OK first off, it's not outlandish to think of him as a possible hc option... I would venture to say that most people feel that Bradley has one more year to develop this team before he is on the hot seat if he is not already, at least in the eyes of most fans... so viewing this hire in this way, at least to me, doesn't seem like that far of a stretch ...I never said this like a TMD statement of this is definitely what is happening...I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone on the mb had considered this as a possibility .. it's a pretty reasonable line of logic imo
Quote:I concur...


Of course you do... lol
Quote:OK first off, it's not outlandish to think of him as a possible hc option... I would venture to say that most people feel that Bradley has one more year to develop this team before he is on the hot seat if he is not already, at least in the eyes of most fans... so viewing this hire in this way, at least to me, doesn't seem like that far of a stretch ...I never said this like a TMD statement of this is definitely what is happening...I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone on the mb had considered this as a possibility .. it's a pretty reasonable line of logic imo


How is it reasonable? Bradley brought him on. How could that make it a Caldwell contingency?
Quote:How is it reasonable? Bradley brought him on. How could that make it a Caldwell contingency?
I get that... I was more referring to my stance in the original post before I was informed this was strictly a Bradley hire... now I understand Bradley may have been instrumental in bringing him here, but it is kinda hard for me to think he was the only one who had anything to do with hiring him.. most people have been pretty insistent about this based off a press conference after the hire, but if you are telling me that the FO had absolutely nothing to do with him coming here and there isn't even the slightest possibility Marrone could be the jags next hc in the event Bradley is canned mid season, we will have to agree to disagree... people are getting hung up on the Caldwell portion of this and missing the point I was trying to say and that's my fault for how I worded everything (including the title)... I guess my revised point would be, could Marrone end up replacing Gus in the event of another terrible start to the season.
I'm not saying any of this to ruffle feathers or bash anyone on the team and I get most people on this board can not engage in a debate without acting like the other side of the argument is completely stupid for feeling the way they feel... but if you can be a little objective and try and view it from the other side, it may not seem soo ridiculous even if u don't agree with it or think it's totally impossible.
Lol actually, after reading through this thread a little bit more, i have said the said thing over and over and the counter argument is excatly the same every time so this thread is going nowhere... Ill save poeple time


Op/ pov 1- is there a possiblity caldwell brought in marrone as bradleys replacement in the event of another bad start.


Pov 2- no way jose, bradley hired this guy...that could never happen, how could op ever think that... Pure crazy talk.


Op- oh ok bradley hired him, it just seemed odd marrone accepting this job after his recent sucsess as hc in buff.


Pov 2- but bradley hired him


Op- so u dont even think there is a possiblity he could be a replacement even though bradley hired him.


Pov 2- but bradley


Op- right, but you dont think it is even the slightest possiblity.


Pov 2- Hell no, bradley hired blah blah blah.



pretty much sums it up, mods can lock this thread.
Marone was hired so Bradley can focus more on the Roars cheerleading abilities
It's possible that scenario happens this year. Whether it ends up being inadvertent on Bradley's end or not. If this team starts off 0 - 8 or worse. Caldwell has to make a decision. At that point, Khan is probably forcing his hand.

 

Khan: "You know David, after now going 8 - 40 over the last two and a half years... I think it's time for..."

David: "I offer Bradley as tribute!.... I volunteer Gus....as...tribute"

Khan: "Very well... we'll announce it tomorrow morning... please plan to have Doug step in for now...once this season is over we will talk again about 2016"

 

At that point, depending on what happens after mid-season if we get off to another terrible start under Bradley. Khan either opts to give Caldwell yet another chance or he cleans house already after just three years...

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