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Apparently Marrone had an interview lined up with Denver but decided to cancel it... So there's that.

Quote:Apparently Marrone had an interview lined up with Denver but decided to cancel it... So there's that.

There's a reason we call him "No stones" Marrone.

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The plays we called absolutely mattered... I recall a sequence in the red zone against I think the giants during the first half that was complete garbage in terms of the plays ran.


To dismiss pay calling is to ignore a huge part of being successful as an offense and as a coach

Quote:There's a reason we call him "No stones" Marrone.

 

So did Teryl Austin. They both see Kubiak as the likely replacement for Fox.

Quote:So did Teryl Austin. They both see Kubiak as the likely replacement for Fox.

 

While I agree with your latter statement,   the situations with the two coaches are different.   Teryl Austin had 5 HC interviews in 7 days,  including two with Atlanta.   Doug Marrone hasn't had much HC interest activity of late.  

 

Marrone will have $ 4 million coming to him because of the foolish contract that was given to him by the Bills in January, 2013.   But barring an unexpected turn of events,  no HC candidate had a worse month of decisions than Marrone did.   This on top of clearly being in the driver's seat for the Jets HC job but he didn't come close to sealing the deal.

Quote:While I agree with your latter statement,   the situations with the two coaches are different.   Teryl Austin had 5 HC interviews in 7 days,  including two with Atlanta.   Doug Marrone hasn't had much HC interest activity of late.  

 

Marrone will have $ 4 million coming to him because of the foolish contract that was given to him by the Bills in January, 2013.   But barring an unexpected turn of events,  no HC candidate had a worse month of decisions than Marrone did.   This on top of clearly being in the driver's seat for the Jets HC job but he didn't come close to sealing the deal.

The Bills's FO does a lot of stupid things, but I don't that opt out clause was necessarily one of them. With the ownership situation we had, I suspect many coaches would have asked for something similar. The Pegulas made it pretty clear they wanted Marrone back, so he does look like a quitter and running with the money for opting out when he didn't have to. It's pretty clear he thought he had the Jets HC job in the bag, but there were a lot of murmurs going around of the Jets tampering so they quickly found someone else.

 

Marrone is damaged goods and will be lucky to be a HC in the NFL ever again. When Bill Polian talks about the traits of a good HC in his book, one of the 11 qualities he brings up is character. After the Bills' players (especially someone like Fred Jackson) lambasted him, no NFL player is ever going to buy into what this man has to say. After he left his assistant coaches out to dry, no one will ever want to coach for him. His credibility is shot. BTW, he is also severely lacking in a number of other qualities Polian thinks are important for a good HC to have.

Some teams will bring him in to kick the tires, but this will be more of a due diligence thing instead of real consideration.


 

Quote:The Bills's FO does a lot of stupid things, but I don't that opt out clause was necessarily one of them. With the ownership situation we had, I suspect many coaches would have asked for something similar. The Pegulas made it pretty clear they wanted Marrone back, so he does look like a quitter and running with the money for opting out when he didn't have to. It's pretty clear he thought he had the Jets HC job in the bag, but there were a lot of murmurs going around of the Jets tampering so they quickly found someone else.

 

Marrone is damaged goods and will be lucky to be a HC in the NFL ever again. When Bill Polian talks about the traits of a good HC in his book, one of the 11 qualities he brings up is character. After the Bills' players (especially someone like Fred Jackson) lambasted him, no NFL player is ever going to buy into what this man has to say. After he left his assistant coaches out to dry, no one will ever want to coach for him. His credibility is shot. BTW, he is also severely lacking in a number of other qualities Polian thinks are important for a good HC to have.

Some teams will bring him in to kick the tires, but this will be more of a due diligence thing instead of real consideration.


 

 

  I understand the reasoning for giving Doug Marrone the opt-out clause.   But I don't think Marrone did enough in his coaching career prior to be hired by the Bills to warrant the clause.   IMO, Russ Brandon and co.  could have hired a viable HC w/o such a clause.  

 

  I feel strongly that tampering did take place regarding Marrone.   Very likely by the Jets and possibly by one or more other teams.   From what I read,  prior to Marrone's interview with the Jets,  Woody Johnson was very interested in hiring Marrone.   But Marrone apparently had a bad interview from Johnson's perspective,  which changed the direction of the Jets HC search again.  

 

 In addition to team leader Fred Jackson,   Aaron Williams'  comments about how Marrone left Buffalo were attention getting.  

Quote:  I understand the reasoning for giving Doug Marrone the opt-out clause.   But I don't think Marrone did enough in his coaching career prior to be hired by the Bills to warrant the clause.   IMO, Russ Brandon and co.  could have hired a viable HC w/o such a clause.  

 

  I feel strongly that tampering did take place regarding Marrone.   Very likely by the Jets and possibly by one or more other teams.   From what I read,  prior to Marrone's interview with the Jets,  Woody Johnson was very interested in hiring Marrone.   But Marrone apparently had a bad interview from Johnson's perspective,  which changed the direction of the Jets HC search again.  

 

 In addition to team leader Fred Jackson,   Aaron Williams'  comments about how Marrone left Buffalo were attention getting.  

By all accounts, Bill's President Russ Brandon (who's background is in marketing and not football) was the one who wanted Marrone. Part of the thinking of why he wanted him is Marrone had something resembling a fanbase around Syracuse, so hiring Marrone would help market the Bills in that region (Syracuse, despite being closer to Buffalo actually has more Giants fans than Bills fans). During that HC search, Brandon promised they would leave "No stone unturned" in their search for a HC. Marrone was the 3rd person they interviewed.

 

No matter how good or bad of an interview Marrone had with the Jets, they would have been foolish to hire him and open themselves up to the tampering charges. They dodged a bullet by passing on him.

 

I'm sure other players took note of Aaron Williams' comment. Safe to say that no NFL player will ever buy into his "All of us are in this together." No matter how Marrone or his agent try to spin it, he is not a man of his word and NFL teams know this. A came out how he wasn't ever really popular with the players.

Quote:By all accounts, Bill's President Russ Brandon (who's background is in marketing and not football) was the one who wanted Marrone. Part of the thinking of why he wanted him is Marrone had something resembling a fanbase around Syracuse, so hiring Marrone would help market the Bills in that region (Syracuse, despite being closer to Buffalo actually has more Giants fans than Bills fans). During that HC search, Brandon promised they would leave "No stone unturned" in their search for a HC. Marrone was the 3rd person they interviewed.

 

No matter how good or bad of an interview Marrone had with the Jets, they would have been foolish to hire him and open themselves up to the tampering charges. They dodged a bullet by passing on him.

 

I'm sure other players took note of Aaron Williams' comment. Safe to say that no NFL player will ever buy into his "All of us are in this together." No matter how Marrone or his agent try to spin it, he is not a man of his word and NFL teams know this. A came out how he wasn't ever really popular with the players.

 

  I think we will both agree that the Jets dodged a bullet in not hiring Doug Marrone for multiple reasons.  While Marrone is from the Bronx and might have tried to sell the Jets as his dream job,   many would have been skeptical after Marrone's self made exit from Buffalo.   Including some potential UFA's.  

 

  It wouldn't surprise me if Marrone's next NFL job is as an Offensive Line Coach.   That could well be his best fit.

Quote:I think we will both agree that the Jets dodged a bullet in not hiring Doug Marrone for multiple reasons.  While Marrone is from the Bronx and might have tried to sell the Jets as his dream job,   many would have been skeptical after Marrone's self made exit from Buffalo.   Including some potential UFA's.  

 

  It wouldn't surprise me if Marrone's next NFL job is as an Offensive Line Coach.   That could well be his best fit.

That's where I also see him fitting in at the NFL level. If his ego allows it that is. If he ever wants to be an NFL HC again, he'll have to work his way back up the ladder.

Quote:The Bills's FO does a lot of stupid things, but I don't that opt out clause was necessarily one of them. With the ownership situation we had, I suspect many coaches would have asked for something similar. The Pegulas made it pretty clear they wanted Marrone back, so he does look like a quitter and running with the money for opting out when he didn't have to. It's pretty clear he thought he had the Jets HC job in the bag, but there were a lot of murmurs going around of the Jets tampering so they quickly found someone else.

 
Marrone is damaged goods and will be lucky to be a HC in the NFL ever again. When Bill Polian talks about the traits of a good HC in his book, one of the 11 qualities he brings up is character. After the Bills' players (especially someone like Fred Jackson) lambasted him, no NFL player is ever going to buy into what this man has to say. After he left his assistant coaches out to dry, no one will ever want to coach for him. His credibility is shot. [/size]

BTW, he is also severely lacking in a number of other qualities Polian thinks are important for a good HC to have.[/size]

Some teams will bring him in to kick the tires, but this will be more of a due diligence thing instead of real consideration.[/size]

Jilted lover

Quote:Jilted lover

Hardly. I'm glad he's gone. In fact I wish he went to the Jets! I'd hate to see him ruin a team like the Jags, who like the Bills, have been down.

Quote:That's where I also see him fitting in at the NFL level. If his ego allows it that is. If he ever wants to be an NFL HC again, he'll have to work his way back up the ladder.

 

 

One question that any team potential interested in Doug Marrone as an Offensive Coordinator needs to make the best educated guess possible is how much did Marrone benefit by being in the right place at the right time as Sean Payton's Offensive Coordinator with Drew Brees as the Saints QB?    Did Payton and Brees make Payton look like a much better Offensive Coordinator than he truly is?     I don't envy those who have to make these type of evaluations/ decisions.  

Quote:The Bills's FO does a lot of stupid things, but I don't that opt out clause was necessarily one of them. With the ownership situation we had, I suspect many coaches would have asked for something similar. The Pegulas made it pretty clear they wanted Marrone back, so he does look like a quitter and running with the money for opting out when he didn't have to. It's pretty clear he thought he had the Jets HC job in the bag, but there were a lot of murmurs going around of the Jets tampering so they quickly found someone else.

 

Marrone is damaged goods and will be lucky to be a HC in the NFL ever again. When Bill Polian talks about the traits of a good HC in his book, one of the 11 qualities he brings up is character. After the Bills' players (especially someone like Fred Jackson) lambasted him, no NFL player is ever going to buy into what this man has to say. After he left his assistant coaches out to dry, no one will ever want to coach for him. His credibility is shot. BTW, he is also severely lacking in a number of other qualities Polian thinks are important for a good HC to have.

Some teams will bring him in to kick the tires, but this will be more of a due diligence thing instead of real consideration.


 

Thanks Billsfan1970 that is about the way I saw it but am not a fan of the Bills. Nice to hear from someone who is. I believe all you say and think him leaving his assistants abandoned was not a classy move. It may be awhile for him. All that comes around goes around!

Quote:Thanks Billsfan1970 that is about the way I saw it but am not a fan of the Bills. Nice to hear from someone who is. I believe all you say and think him leaving his assistants abandoned was not a classy move. It may be awhile for him. All that comes around goes around!

Anytime. If you go to the Bills' message boards, you might find differing opinions on him, but I think mine is the general consensus.


When you think about the NFL coaches, it's a small club. There might be 2° of separation between any two people. Rest assured, they all know about Marrone.

Quote:One question that any team potential interested in Doug Marrone as an Offensive Coordinator needs to make the best educated guess possible is how much did Marrone benefit by being in the right place at the right time as Sean Payton's Offensive Coordinator with Drew Brees as the Saints QB?    Did Payton and Brees make Payton look like a much better Offensive Coordinator than he truly is?     I don't envy those who have to make these type of evaluations/ decisions.

Reports are Payton called all the plays and Bree's makes anyone look good. Marrone's actual body of work isn't all that impressive.

Quote:Reports are Payton called all the plays and Bree's makes anyone look good. Marrone's actual body of work isn't all that impressive.

 

There's no question that Sean Payton has been the Saints playcaller during his time as Saints HC.  Of course,  excluding the season he was suspended for Bountygate.

 

A key question,  at least on this end,  is how much of an asset Doug Marrone was in terms of game planning,  adjustments,  and overall input as Offensive Coordinator?   There 's no question he's a highly skilled Offensive Line coach.   But can Marrone provide more than that at a level that will enable a team to get to and advance in the playoffs on multiple occasions?     I have significant doubts.

Quote:One question that any team potential interested in Doug Marrone as an Offensive Coordinator needs to make the best educated guess possible is how much did Marrone benefit by being in the right place at the right time as Sean Payton's Offensive Coordinator with Drew Brees as the Saints QB?    Did Payton and Brees make Payton look like a much better Offensive Coordinator than he truly is?     I don't envy those who have to make these type of evaluations/ decisions.  

 

Quote:Reports are Payton called all the plays and Bree's makes anyone look good. Marrone's actual body of work isn't all that impressive.

 

what about what he did at syracuse? he inflated nassib's value by quite a bit and made syracuse a ton better.

 

also that no stones thing is a joke because as much as you may not like the guy, he was definitely vocal about the bills being a mess. he butted heads with the FO about playing orton instead of manuel..... which was the right move because ej is terrible.

 

id like to see more of his offensive playcalling philosophy. i might need to do some research today because he is definitely a legit possibility.

Quote:what about what he did at syracuse? he inflated nassib's value by quite a bit and made syracuse a ton better.

 

also that no stones thing is a joke because as much as you may not like the guy, he was definitely vocal about the bills being a mess. he butted heads with the FO about playing orton instead of manuel..... which was the right move because ej is terrible.

 

id like to see more of his offensive playcalling philosophy. i might need to do some research today because he is definitely a legit possibility.

 

 Granted,  Syracuse did noticeably improve under Doug Marrone.   Yet,  they were still only 25-25 in Marrone's 4 combined seasons.    In a Big East Conference that wasn't even close to being on the level of the SEC.    Let alone reminding anyone of the NFL. 

 

 As a HC,  Marrone seems to be someone that can get a team to .500 or a little higher.   But as a HC or an Offensive Coordinator,  is he someone that can help take a team to a higher level,  w/o having someone like Sean Payton in the picture?    If Gus Bradley believes he can,  based on research,  including talking to people associated with Marrone ( including opponents ) and he's the best available option from Bradley's perspective,   it's the type of decision that probably will make or break Bradley as a HC.   If Bradley proves correct under this scenario,  he gets a contract extension.  If he's incorrect,  you know the rest.