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My question is have we seen the ceiling for most of our young players? Like Joeckel, Gratz, Cyprien,Bortles. Everybody always say well they young they still need time to develop. Well football is football. Either u good or your not..There are soo many young players and rookies that come in and have impacts on there team. Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Sammy Watkins just to name a few. Just tired of the they young excuse..

Some will get better, some won't.

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Quote:My question is have we seen the ceiling for most of our young players? Like Joeckel, Gratz, Cyprien,Bortles. Everybody always say well they young they still need time to develop. Well football is football. Either u good or your not..There are soo many young players and rookies that come in and have impacts on there team. Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Sammy Watkins just to name a few. Just tired of the they young excuse..

 

I doubt it.

 

We might be seeing their ceiling under a substandard coaching staff, but it's likely that everyone on your list could be better with proper coaching.

Quote:I doubt it.

 

We might be seeing their ceiling under a substandard coaching staff, but it's likely that everyone on your list could be better with proper coaching.

 

Well there's no question that a good coach gets the most out of players.  I think we have a good defensive coach.  However, our offensive staff is lacking.

 

No.

I'm of the impression that players reach their prime in year four

Quote:I'm of the impression that players reach their prime in year four

 


unless your name is Vince Young

Quote:I'm of the impression that players reach their prime in year four

 

2017 must be our year then!

Quote:My question is have we seen the ceiling for most of our young players? Like Joeckel, Gratz, Cyprien,Bortles. Everybody always say well they young they still need time to develop. Well football is football. Either u good or your not..There are soo many young players and rookies that come in and have impacts on there team. Mike Evans, Odell Beckham, Sammy Watkins just to name a few. Just tired of the they young excuse..

 

lol, don't Beckham and Evans play for two of the worst teams in the NFL also?

 

Allen Robinson was on pace for 70 catches and 900 yards.

No, there is no hope for any of the younger players to improve.

Quote:lol, don't Beckham and Evans play for two of the worst teams in the NFL also?


Allen Robinson was on pace for 70 catches and 900 yards.

true.

Quote:2017 must be our year then!

2017 will indeed be a great year to be a jaguar fan.

no

You really think Bortles has hit his ceiling?


Hafahahahahahaha

The game will slow down for the players when they get adjusted to the speed.  When that happens is the golden question.  If you've ever played a sport, you know what I'm talking about when you've finally adjust to the speed of the game.  

Quote:You really think Bortles has hit his ceiling?


Hafahahahahahaha

 

Well, if Fisch continues to hand around as OC, this might very well be Bortles' ceiling. I don't think any of us will be laughing at that point. Its just not a good match. 

I dont believe  most if any have hit their ceiling but if so then we are in far bigger trouble than I thought.

Is it fun to have knee jerk reactions on a regular basis?


It must be fun.


It's fun, isn't it?


You seem like you're having fun.

I hate dumb people.