Quote:Hey, that's a 50% improvement. If we can do that each week, we'll be scoring over 20 points by the end of the season.
Each week, lol. It took 26 games later to get that extra point.
At that rate the Jags won't score enough to wins games consistently until about the year 2125 and none of us in here today will even be alive to see it.
Quote:Where the hell is this coming from? Luke Joeckel is NOT playing as bad as most of you think he is.
Maybe not, but he certainly isn't playing up to the level of the #2 overall pick either, not even close.
Quote:That wasn't Mularkey's first gig.
His actual head coaching record was 16-32. He wasn't great, but he made Gabbert look almost competent.
I can't believe he'd have done worse by Bortles than Gus and Fisch have up to this point.
Speaking of MM, I have been meaning to go back and look at the scores of all the games when he was the Jags HC and also had mostly Gabby/Henne as his Qbs.
I just haven't done it yet.
I don't remember getting blowout as much as we have been for most of this season, but I do remember feeling that the Jags just weren't good enough to win games that season.
If we did get blownout a lot, I guess I just put it out of my mind.
I'll look it up eventually.
Quote: Speaking of MM, I have been meaning to go back and look at the scores of all the games when he was the Jags HC and also had mostly Gabby/Henne as his Qbs.
I just haven't done it yet.
I don't remember getting blowout as much as we have been for most of this season, but I do remember feeling that the Jags just weren't good enough to win games that season.
If we did get blownout a lot, I guess I just put it out of my mind.
I'll look it up eventually.
Compared to now the Jaguars were competitive under Mularkey.
At the time it seemed like the team was hopeless. Turns out we just didn't understand the true depths of hopelessness.
Quote:This team does NOT need a first time head coach leading them.
This is beyond true. Why set everyone up for failure? A non experienced HC trying to figure out the ropes with a bunch rookies playing is beyond dumb. Caldwell and Khan should have thought this out better before getting Gus. I have to think he BS'd his way through that interview with his "positive" attitude.
Khan: so why do you think you can be a HC of the mighty Jaguars?
Gus: bc man I know that we need to work hard, and these players will respond to me.
Khan: how do you know that?
Gus: because man, I see a ton of potential with these guys, and I believe in you and Dave. You guys rock, and this organization is one of the best, yeah, man. I will show you.
Kahn: but you've never been a HC before.
Gus: look at Seattle. I made that team with our defense, it wasn't Carroll man, I was the guy who pumped them up every game. You gotta stay positive brother.
Khan: well, that's all I needed to know. Welcome aboard!
I don't know... I remember the malarkey days as being even darker than now... Which is saying something. We were getting wiped out week in week out under malarkey. I want to say the point differential was a little higher back then, but maybe not by much...
Quote:Compared to now the Jaguars were competitive under Mularkey.
At the time it seemed like the team was hopeless. Turns out we just didn't understand the true depths of hopelessness.
Lol it's not that bad. If Bortles was playing better, the Jags would be in every game they play. We were only down 7 at the half against the clots and that's with Bortles doing absolutely nothing.
It's hard to win in this league when your qb is more of a benefit for the opponent than your own team.
Quote:I don't know... I remember the malarkey days as being even darker than now... Which is saying something. We were getting wiped out week in week out under malarkey. I want to say the point differential was a little higher back then, but maybe not by much...
IIRC, we weren't getting mopped up on the floor week in and week out under Mularkey. We looked some what competent playing. He'll didn't we give the patriots a hard time that year?
Quote:Lol it's not that bad. If Bortles was playing better, the Jags would be in every game they play. We were only down 7 at the half against the clots and that's with Bortles doing absolutely nothing.
It's hard to win in this league when your qb is more of a benefit for the opponent than your own team.
Good point. I think it's important to get the right support for bb5, that includes coaching which I have a concern about...
Quote:IIRC, we weren't getting mopped up on the floor week in and week out under Mularkey. We looked some what competent playing. He'll didn't we give the patriots a hard time that year?
The Jaguars were bad that year, but they weren't as bad as Gus's first year, and this year Gus is headed for another similar season.
The Jaguars lost multiple competitive heartbreaker type games under Mularkey. (Vikings, Raiders, texans, pats)
Under Gus it's been much more consistently bad against good teams.
Quote:IIRC, we weren't getting mopped up on the floor week in and week out under Mularkey. We looked some what competent playing. He'll didn't we give the patriots a hard time that year?
See, it was so long ago I don't even remember playing the pats... Didn't we get smoked by the bears under malarkey? Lol, let me check
Quote:The Jaguars were bad that year, but they weren't as bad as Gus's first year, and this year Gus is headed for another similar season.
The Jaguars lost multiple competitive heartbreaker type games under Mularkey. (Vikings, Raiders, texans, pats)
Under Gus it's been much more consistently bad against good teams.
No doubt. Which makes me wonder what the problem is. I thought we have better players now than then. Based on that though, Mularkey might have been a better coach, although, I know he lost the locker room that year, so there's that.
Quote:The Jaguars were bad that year, but they weren't as bad as Gus's first year, and this year Gus is headed for another similar season.
The Jaguars lost multiple competitive heartbreaker type games under Mularkey. (Vikings, Raiders, texans, pats)
Under Gus it's been much more consistently bad against good teams.
But this year we should have beat the phin, Cincy, Pitts, and tacks... And we were in the game against Philly... And I thought we gave Cincy a run for their money...
Quote:No doubt. Which makes me wonder what the problem is. I thought we have better players now than then. Based on that though, Mularkey might have been a better coach, although, I know he lost the locker room that year, so there's that.
It's really damning no matter how you look at it for Gus.
He's done worse than a guy who got fired after only one season with a supposedly worse roster.
Quote:But this year we should have beat the phin, Cincy, Pitts, and tacks... And we were in the game against Philly... And I thought we gave Cincy a run for their money...
I just have to say, Caldwell's recipe isn't working. I don't think it's the players drafted, I just think we don't have the right coach. Something isn't meshing well with what they are trying to do. It's like they aren't on the same page, or something.
Quote:But this year we should have beat the phin, Cincy, Pitts, and tacks... And we were in the game against Philly... And I thought we gave Cincy a run for their money...
I'll give you the pittsburgh and tacks games as competitive, but the Jaguars had to come back from multiple scores down against cincy to make it look competitive (lose by double digits), it wasn't really competitive. The Jaguars lost by 14 to the dolphins.
You're reaching. Gus has been horrible and you need to stop trying to justify it by comparing him favorably to another bad coach, to whom he doesn't even compare favorably.
Quote:I'll give you the pittsburgh and tacks games as competitive, but the Jaguars had to come back from multiple scores down against cincy to make it look competitive (lose by double digits), it wasn't really competitive. The Jaguars lost by 14 to the dolphins.
You're reaching. Gus has been horrible and you need to stop trying to justify it by comparing him favorably to another bad coach, to whom he doesn't even compare favorably.
I don't think he's defending Gus. We all know by now he's not the guy. I have the giants defense in my fantasy team this week, even though their defense sucks. I just don't have a doubt in my mind they tear us up this weekend.